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PT no longer downloadable in US (and EU/UK) even with license
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DidntKnowJack
Member
To be honest I wasn't all that keen on getting MGS5 to begin with, but this seals any possibility I'd ever buy it. Best they can hope for is I pick it up used somewhere for next to nothing. Konami can take a big suck off my ass.
SpoonyBard
Banned
So if I want to replace the HD of my PS4, it's bye bye PT?
littletran22
Member
After MGSV Konami will never have my money ever again.
I only follow Kojima now.
I only follow Kojima now.
DidntKnowJack
Member
Apparently you can back it up for transferring. I don't know the details, never switched out a hard drive before, but people keep saying its possible.
I have it on my hard disk, but what'll happen if I need to do a system restore?
Backup to external hdd with all stuff.
thetester77
Member
Back up your ps4 to an external hdd. Once you have put in your new 2tb drive you can then restore from the external drive and all your games/saves etc will be there Inc P.T
Acquiescence
Member
So it's still up on the store? I don't see it. Anyone got a link?
guybrushfreeman
Unconfirmed Member
It's possible on the PS4 to do a full hard drive back up and restore now but not choose only select pieces of content to back up. So if you back up a hard drive with P.T. on it you can restore the whole drive to a new one but there's no way at this time to just back up P.T. on its own.
Edit: beaten many times. Also I can still redownload in AU right now. Lucky for me because I really didn't think they would go this far and thought it would be safe just in the download list.
Nope. Not in stores. Only those who had it on their download list before it was taken down.
Darkstorne
Member
I assume they mean redownload if it's in your library?
DidntKnowJack
Member
Long gone from the store. He's saying the ability to re-download it from the servers is running out because they're about to update with this week's additions to the store. Which seems likely because that's exactly what happened here in North America. Once the store updated, PT was gone.
Someone earlier said they share played it yesterday.
Sephiroth_GR_
Member
Phew...good thing it's still in my HDD. Sucks for everyone else who wanted to play it, but didnt get the chance...
BaronLundi
Member
At what time is the UK/EU store updating?
DidntKnowJack
Member
Then why can I still download the NBA Elite 11 demo (one of many such examples)? This angle of arguing why it was removed doesn't add up.
SolidusDave
Member
"Play P.T. for only 20 per hour"
Neff
Member
I simply don't think the sky is falling, or that Sony and Konami are evil for doing this. While it may not be an easy thing to accept, there are more reasons for them to take it down than leave it up, unfortunately, and rather than wave pitchforks and get mad, I choose to accept their reasons.
The demo was good, but not that good. And honestly, it loses an enormous amount of its appeal now that we know it's never going to amount to anything. It now merely stands as a very pretty, very short, very scary, mildly interactive experimental curiosity. If this were something like Ground Zeroes disappearing forever, then I could understand the reaction. If I hadn't played it and ended up watching a run on YouTube, I think my reaction to it being discontinued would be the same.
I presume because it's still technically available to purchase, among other reasons. Silent Hills though is never going to see the light of day, at least not in the way PT promotes it (Kojima/DelToro/Reedus). Neither Sony nor Konami have any incentive to keep the demo up. And as has been pointed out, it's also now false advertising, which can be a pretty serious issue.
Scofield94941
Member
We should all just call P.T. Silent hills...that was the full game.
Darkstorne
Member
Has anyone tried getting a response from Sony about this? Especially since deleting P.T. shows a message informing us that it can be redownloaded from our library in the future. Pretty sure this warrants an explanation for that at least.
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Not true. See above. This goes completely against established practice. As far as I'm aware no digital game has done this before, and it raises all sorts of consumer protection issues. Thank goodness it's only happening with a free demo and not a paid title...
Not true. See above. This goes completely against established practice. As far as I'm aware no digital game has done this before, and it raises all sorts of consumer protection issues. Thank goodness it's only happening with a free demo and not a paid title...
Has anyone tried getting a response from Sony about this? Especially since deleting P.T. shows a message informing us that it can be redownloaded from our library in the future. Pretty sure this warrants an explanation for that at least.
Lawsuit incoming.
I'm starting to believe this was legit.see:
This has never happened before on PSN. It's no one's fault but Konami's.
Neuromancer
Member
Fuck you Konami. Worst JP publisher in the history of video games.
yes
michalmarek77
Member
You don't have a license for P.T. You didn't bought it. It WAS just a free demo...
There is plenty of demos, f.i. on XBLA, from EA which doesn't work anymore...
But you can still download them...i think.
There is plenty of demos, f.i. on XBLA, from EA which doesn't work anymore...
But you can still download them...i think.
SolidusDave
Member
Has anyone tried getting a response from Sony about this? Especially since deleting P.T. shows a message informing us that it can be redownloaded from our library in the future. Pretty sure this warrants an explanation for that at least.
Well guess what, your license has just been revoked.
Darkstorne
Member
Miles Quaritch
Member
I'm sure there's some clause in there somewhere that allows them to remove licences whenever they choose.
It being free means there's even less recourse as the consumer isn't left out of pocket with the removal of the licence.
Noisepurge
Member
how many games do you have on your PSN account, you'll have to sell that too.
Darkstorne
Member
I'm digging through the recent changes to the EU's consumer rights laws (altered last year to apply to digital goods too) and found this:
"in relation to any digital content which is supplied under the contract and which the consumer has paid for, that the trader has the right to supply that content to the consumer"
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga...here-under-a-digital-content-contract/enacted
If this was a game we'd paid for, Konami would absolutely be breaking the law. So breathe a sigh of relief that at least this can't happen to paid content - digital is fine there. But for free content like P.T? Seems there's nothing we can do about it =(
Also keep in mind that the US hasn't updated consumer rights for digital goods yet (as far as I'm aware). This might be a good time to get a petition going and kick your government into gear. The EU is protected, but at the moment I'm not sure Americans are.
Noisepurge
Member
it's free, paid content like Outrun 2 and Marvel games will not disappear even though licenses have expired.
Hans.Gruber
Banned
Darkstorne
Member
That's not what that means. It doesn't mean they think it's legal, it means that if a third party acts illegally you are agreeing that Sony is not accountable for their actions. It's entirely between you and the third party (in this case, Konami).
As far as I can see, since it's a free title, there is no consumer protection here. If anyone tries pulling a paid title like this, they're losing a court case before it's even begun. No reason to worry about digital games vanishing like this in the future - especially if you live in the EU. Digital goods have equal consumer protection measures as physical as of last year.
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