Big Baybee
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I'm going to need a closeup of megaphone guy.
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Armed group planning a "Draw Muhammad" contest outside Mosque
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Best I can do so far:
Second pic is of him before ripping up a Quran.
Note the stickers.
SlickShoesRUCrazy
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Some humor posted by some friends in Phoenix
http://islamicanews.com/bike-rally-participants-blocked-by-mosque-latecomers/
http://islamicanews.com/bike-rally-participants-blocked-by-mosque-latecomers/
Big Baybee
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Good shot of him on the stream now.
LaserBuddha
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Is it really about there being incontrovertible physical evidence of their intentions, or can we just take an honest look at the facts and decide?
It is abundantly obvious from every detail of this thing that their goal is to be disrespectful and incite anger, and furthermore it is their ideal scenario that some violent conflict occurs that allows them to "defend" themselves. I don't think anyone can say with honesty that these guys do not want violence to occur.
Can you even conceive of a narrative where these are not the goals of their protest?
This is very different from a disenfranchised group expressing their determination to act like everyone else (that being homosexuals kissing in front of religious institutions/officials). There is a very big difference between the drawings which exist solely for the purpose of offending a small and vulnerable minority, and doing something like kissing your lover which is completely non-offensive if you aren't gay, as a statement to an organization that has truly, materially contributed to your lack of equal rights.
Gays have something real to fight for too. What change are the bikers trying to achieve? Fighting the imaginary islamification of America? Trying to have Islamic texts revised? Intimidating someone from trying to kill them that wasnt going to try to kill them in the first place? Showing they arent afraid to do something that they wouldnt be doing outside of the protest itself anyway?
They are different in so many ways.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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I wish I wasn't human sometimes.
nailbombxx
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The sticker on his megaphone says "evolution is science fiction"
Why? There are more people supporting the mosque than the anti-Islam people.
If you want a good read which puts the relationship between the GOP and the Muslim community into context, you can't do much better than this:
http://www.ranyontheroyals.com/2012/11/the-gop-and-me.html
http://www.ranyontheroyals.com/2012/11/the-gop-and-me.html
Tesseract
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i agree... these protesters look ridiculous..
i'm not friend of religion but any fool can see through these people and what they are really motivated by.
Dont worry, I dont think you are supporting them.
But this protest is as much about freedom of speech than the civil war was about things unrelated to slavery.Guess the gafer.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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I haven't followed it, good to hear.
I just saw ripping up sacred books and thought the worst.
Big Baybee
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Since these guys are armed, will the police let them protest all night? I can't imagine them trying to clear the area.
TheStruggler
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"if you are muslim and fresh off the boat, and wondering why there is so many officers this is america, this isnt some muslim country"....Whoa
Northeastmonk
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It was many years ago, as a child, I saw some pic of a skull and it said "Jesus will f your brains out". Now it can never have respect on both sides because drawing Jesus is like a natural form of religious anything. I'm not very religious nor do I fight for or against it. I'm just saying not every religion in America is like this. I'm not for killing people because of a religion. It's unsafe and wrong to me.
A drawing to me is a drawing. People shouldn't die over it. If I was a huge religious person then I'd already be offended by 99.9% of what's out there or what's being said period.
I stopped going to Church. I don't know why to be honest, but hey I don't feel like I'm the disciplinary dictator anymore and I don't discuss it either.
I believe the pic was on Rotten too
m_shortpants
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Evolution is science fiction
Can't say I'm surprised.
Can't say I'm surprised.
The Technomancer
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I've stayed out of here because I don't have much to say, but good lord I hope the hammer comes down hard on these guys if they incite any actual violence
Tesseract
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yup, seriously
TheStruggler
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anyone have live footage with audio what I am watching now is a camera cut far back and can barely make out what is going on
TheStruggler
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looks like it is done for the night good job everyone glad there was no violence
I just fell out of my bed from laughter. I was not ready for a keyblade.
Miles Quaritch
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Happy to hear that there were no major incidents, but oh my god at the keyblade.
Not surprised there was at least one SS tee wearing idiot. Should have been expected, I'm sure he was only there to show that he won't stand for religious intolerance...but then we also probably shouldn't use him as a shining example of what the group as a whole was trying to achieve...
Not surprised there was at least one SS tee wearing idiot. Should have been expected, I'm sure he was only there to show that he won't stand for religious intolerance...but then we also probably shouldn't use him as a shining example of what the group as a whole was trying to achieve...
excelsiorlef
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Dude it was a massively racist "protest", let's not pretend he was just some outlier.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Woah, I didn't know that the main cartoonist of the last event was 100% pure POS:
https://twitter.com/BoschFawstin
https://twitter.com/BoschFawstin
Stereogatari
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I was willing to give a chance, that these were reasonable people gone rogue, but nope. Just preferring one set of fiction over another lol.
GoonerTRON
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It really doesn't send a message. These are Americans in the mosque. They aren't going to retaliate with violence.
If they wanted to send a message they should go to Iraq or Syria and try it. This just bothers peaceful Americans trying to practice their religion.
If you are taking assault weapons to a protest you already fucked up.
Miles Quaritch
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That was supposed to be a more tongue in cheek post. It's still early, so perhaps it didn't come across as well. My bad...
It's pretty obvious what the intention behind this gathering was, it was obvious from the moment they said to bring guns. They were just aching for the opportunity to start some shit and kill some people while legally claiming they were 'defending' themselves.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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Did they even do any freedom-protecting drawings?
dead monkey uk
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Well he is half right.
Yeah, bothering Americans with protests is wrong. But only when I disagree with the protest.
NullPointer
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Gotta admit, they might be living proof of that idea.
Wondering this myself. I half wish they had some incredible artists there making beautiful, thoughtful renditions.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
It's amusing that the optics for this ended up being so bad, that I think it ended up basically only appealing to the ultra crazies. So they basically isolated themselves even more.
Great job jackasses.
Great job jackasses.
No, when the protesters are armed. And not actually protesting.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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Lol this never gets old for you, does it
What is there about this "protest" to defend, especially after we've seen what they're about
Tesseract
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everyone's uncomfortably with their being armed is kinda irrelevant as its their right, and yours
the hows and whys of what a protest is or isn't varies wildly, and this would've been shut down if it crossed that somewhat nebulous line
they're still cunt bagels for doing this, but all more power to them for not inciting violence among their herd
the hows and whys of what a protest is or isn't varies wildly, and this would've been shut down if it crossed that somewhat nebulous line
they're still cunt bagels for doing this, but all more power to them for not inciting violence among their herd
These guys are losers, no doubt. I've said that from the beginning. I also recognize that protesting against certain aspects of religion is incredibly important and one such example is the violence against all depictions of a 1500 year old person. The last post was to point out the ridiculousness of telling someone to go protest in Syria or Iraq. I mean, come on now.
Tesseract
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what their about is also irrelevant
the westboro losers get away with far more than this, bless their black, ignorant hearts
being heinous, obnoxious and ignorant don't mean much. freedom of speech is liberal enough like that, and i wouldn't want it any other way.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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You call them cunt bagels yet feel compelled to defend their actions
Tesseract
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what's your point? their freedoms of speech ensures mine.
they are fuck tard losers, but they're free to ridicule and be hateful until their eyes bleed black.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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My point is not everything is deserving of equal consideration, no matter how legal it may be
I know these things don't really matter to you though so its whatever
Tesseract
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only thing that matters to me is that nobody gets hurt, and everyone's rights are protected. as for religion, i'll enjoy the berating (even if it's stupid) it rightfully deserves.
Nobody has a problem with their right to do what they do, just that they are ignorant and hateful enough to do it they way they did.
You can tell me about the legality of it until you're blue in the face, it doesn't matter to me and shouldn't to anyone able to discern between a meaningful protest and an irrelevant mob gathering.
You can tell me about the legality of it until you're blue in the face, it doesn't matter to me and shouldn't to anyone able to discern between a meaningful protest and an irrelevant mob gathering.
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