cripterion
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That's the way to do announcements imo. Not announce/tease/show something for 2-3 years and seeing the game gradually change from what it was.
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XCOM 2 (PC/Mac/Linux, Firaxis, November 2015) announced [Up: New info/screens in OP]
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That's the way to do announcements imo. Not announce/tease/show something for 2-3 years and seeing the game gradually change from what it was.
Mass Effect
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Shake Appeal
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The XCOM website has been updated and has some other small details:
- The mobile base is called "The Avenger" and is a converted alien ship.
- There are five classes now I'm guessing "Ranger" is the new one. They mention "Momentum" as a new class ability.
- "The state of the world affects each combat mission's environment."
- "Use concealment to ambush enemy patrols." (YES.)
- "Loot enemies for precious gear and artifacts."
- You can save fallen soldiers by carrying them to the extraction. (YES.)
- "There are virtually infinite combinations of map, missions and goals." (YESYESYES.)
- Also confirms head-to-head multiplayer on generated maps.
CecilRousso
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It's possible that they think that doing their outmost to create a PC title with the long tail sales of the Civ games is more lucrative then the potential console sales.
8bitsuperhero
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I am so unbelievably excited for it! I have more than 200 hours in Enemy Unknown/Within so this is day one for me.
Snakemen!
Snakemen!
Oh boy!
Leafhopper
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You answered that yourself why it does make sense with those 2 lines. Even if porting it up is cheaper, you have no guarantee that it will perform better on newer consoles. What negotiations? You think 2K is forcing them to make a PC exclusive game? They said they are making it so it is made to use the strengths of PC, probably with a better UI to boot.
Crimsonclaw111
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Versus multi player on procedural maps?! Yes, God yes!
GavinUK86
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Use mouse and keyboard.
Xamtheking
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I'm dying of happiness
Better than my birthday for sure
Consoles have USB ports and hard drives. They could make mods work. Unreal Tournament 3 did right?
ZombieSupaStar
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PC gamer here, I don't think xcom eu had anything hold it back going consoles/iPad ?
Maybe they will do a port later like wasteland 2, and divinity os?
Maybe they will do a port later like wasteland 2, and divinity os?
UI as well. Hopefully they go into this with the mindset that it's a M/KB game that happens to have controller support, compared to the previous one where it was the opposite.
Oppo
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Well to be fair consoles have done mod support before. Unreal Tournament on PS3 did it.
I get why they are doing this but I think they just want to lead with PC.. other versions will almost certainly come down the line.
for controllers: I played XCOM EU/EW with a mouse on PC, I didn't really see the problem...
oh my :O
AHA-Lambda
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I'd put money on this, I doubt XCOM on consoles sold very well tbh, and this is when we're with new consoles with much lower install bases than the 360/PS3 when EU came out.
alexandros
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Yup, those all sound great.
Everything else aside, if you just look at 2.6 million vs. <200k sales it makes sense to release this on PC first with none of the usual cross-platform jank and then potentially re-tool the game for a re-release elsewhere like many other games do.
The last game in particular had a shitty mouse and keyboard interface even though most of the user base was likely using it over controllers.
The last game in particular had a shitty mouse and keyboard interface even though most of the user base was likely using it over controllers.
I can imagine randomly generated mission could take hours to load on those tablet-level CPUs.
SomeOneInaHat
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The PS4 has mouse and keyboard support.
Fragamemnon
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Being a PC game. Which entails a lot more than just being able to run on a platform's hardware. The expectations of what PC gamers value in their games vs. what console gamers value in their games is diverging at a dramatic rate.
Leafhopper
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The game was made for a controller more or less. If you played with one on PC you may have not noticed.
...umm, you can easily use a mouse and keyboard on consoles with an adapter.
Modding is the obvious answer.
I'll post this again for clarity. Basically, expect an explanation some time this week - "And, later this week we’ll go in-depth with Solomon and DeAngelis on the reasons behind the bold move to take XCOM from a multiplatform series to a PC exclusive, and how XCOM 2 will be tailored to take advantage of that single platform’s strengths – followed by Firaxis’ exciting plans to support modders and their work."
UT3 on PS3 had so many restrictions, it was more like a model/skin transfer service as opposed to a definite modding solution. The most interesting thing that came out of it was finally being able to play as the Master Chief on a Sony platform.
NormalFish
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Sick. Looking forward to it. Even though I've been procrastinating on my playthrough of EU.
You can use them natively with no adapter if the game supports it. FFXIV does.
Oh sweet baby Jesus
dancrane212
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I suppose we'll have to wait and see what they plan on doing with mods.
On another note I hope dropping consoles doesn't mean controller support is also getting the axe as well. At least the Steam controller should be out by then so not all hope is lost.
Xamtheking
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Maybe it's easier for your units to die now
Leafhopper
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Timed and of the escort variety too?
alexandros
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I realize you may be joking but it was possible in the original games as well.
Chairman Yang
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Glorious. Remember the situation like 5 years ago when it seemed like XCOM and most turn-based gaming was dead, and the best we could hope for was a bastardized third-person shooter with a few callbacks to the old XCOM?
It's crazy how much the industry has changed. I literally can't keep up with the sheer number of amazing turn-based strategy games being released.
It's crazy how much the industry has changed. I literally can't keep up with the sheer number of amazing turn-based strategy games being released.
Stealth would be an excellent and thematic addition to XCOM; hopefully they take some cues from Invisible Inc.
LurkerPrime
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That's very good to hear. Thanks for posting it!
Gotta say, the general reaction to PC exclusivity by some people is markedly more bitter than I ever would've guessed. Given what they're adding (below) the sacrifice will be more than worth it, delivering a more XCOM: UFO Defense-y game than would be possible otherwise. And mods! Praise mods.
That said, I half expect a console port a year or two down the road, when the install bases have grown more and an expansion or two are out. Building for PC first will solve a lot of development- and direction-related problems in regards to their planned featureset.
Xamtheking
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No, they mean you can save DEAD comrades in this one
(I.e. They can't be revived with the Medkit)
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
it doesnt look like a story-continuation at all from Enemy Within, if i'm guessing right?
What is this trash?
alexandros
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Isn't it fantastic? Turn-based strategy/RPG is by far my favorite genre, I am as happy as a pig in shit
just don't have mods on console. Doesn't make it a reason to not bring the basic game to console.
Only thing that makes sense for me is that they are maybe going a little more deep with the UI that requires mouse/keyboard. The fact that you might be able to use a keyboard on a PS4 (don't think you can on XB1) doesn't mean anything - you can't realistically require that for a console release, you could only add it as an optional input.
Otherwise why wouldn't you want it on every platform possible for maximum return?
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