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[Josh7289]

That's a lot of fucking details.

EDIT: None of this Kevin Callahan's rumors have ever been confirmed, right?

 

[Oersted]

We need better sources.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

This is a Paul Gale-tier rumor.

 

[mclem]

I'd say they are not sticking with the comfortable genres already. From Metroid Prime to Donkey Kong, they are pretty different games

Yep, those two are. Maybe I should be thinking of this the other way around, then: Retro are unafraid to turn their hand to anything.

 

[TheSlySoul]

Well the gimmick would be the portable hybrid stuff right?

They might even take the VALUE angle.

If its backwards compatible with everything that came before? You would have the definitive Nintendo experience at a dirt cheap price point

If they nail the OS/Account/Features? You would see this thing in damn near every home and it would even be a tough decision for most people

Yeah, the gimmick would be the fact that any game you buy you could take it with you on the go. Wii U's whole gimmick was "you can play the games without a TV!"

 

[Krev]

Yeah I do not believe these rumors, Nintendo has to make a console on par or better than the XB1 of PS4 if they want to court 3rd party publishers. I am just worried on what they will do with the Wii U Pad because I want some BC with the NX.

It's incredibly likely to be a platform that features the same games across handheld and console systems.

It's not going to be as powerful as XB1 or PS4.

 

[Brofield]

Not only am I disinclined to believe Mr. Callahan, but the audacity of a Nintendo console stuffed with parts that are underclocked and only cost $150 while still turning a profit for the company would be so ludicrously unattractive to me I would surely join the rest of the doom prophesiers of Nintendo's future existence.

 

[Neoxon]

Yeah I do not believe these rumors, Nintendo has to make a console on par or better than the XB1 of PS4 if they want to court 3rd party publishers. I am just worried on what they will do with the Wii U Pad because I want some BC with the NX.

The third parties aren't coming back.

 

[Neff]

Because the people who would want third party games are already cozy with the PS4 & the XB1, and trying to break into that market this late in the game would be like, as I said before, trying to break a vibranium wall with a rock. Plus western third parties have been through this many times, more recently with the Wii U, so I doubt they'll be willing to jump on board instantly (or ever). This is why I don't think western third parties are ever coming back.

The third parties aren't coming back.

Eh, business is business. If it's ever viable for third parties to port software to Nintendo (ie install bases are handsome and the hardware is standardised enough for assets/code to carry over without costly revision), then they'll do it. It's just that these circumstances haven't occurred since, well, forever. Nintendo is probably realising right about now that unless they can do the Wii all over again, which is unlikely, then they'll at the very least need to do Gamecube again due to the way the market has shifted.

Nintendo is going to do their thing with Mario and Zelda for as long as they can, that much is inevitable. If they can also factor contemporary third party software into that bargain, then they no longer necessarily represent a strictly supplementary console and could potentially compete (albeit on a smaller scale) with PS4/XB1, especially if gen 8 is as unexpectedly drawn out as the last.

 

[DNAbro]

Even though I don't really believe it, I realize that at that price point I would definitely buy it day one no matter what it is.

 

[TheSlySoul]

It's incredibly likely to be a platform that features the same games across handheld and console systems.

It's not going to be as powerful as XB1 or PS4.

I can see them going for a PSN route. You see a game and it lists what platforms you can play it on in the bottom. NX Portable can play some games, but not all. NX Console can play pretty much any game.

 

[Jarmel]

The NX being a slightly more powerful version of the Wii U would be completely unattractive for me as a buyer. Their software would have to be outstanding for me to bite.

 

[FF Seraphim]

It's incredibly likely to be a platform that features the same games across handheld and console systems.

It's not going to be as powerful as XB1 or PS4.

I would actually be fine with that. There are a lot of 3DS games I want to play but I do not own a 3DS. So if Nintendo makes a console that houses all their games from handheld to console that would be awesome.

 

[Revas]

If the NX is essentially a Wii U hardware wise I'll be disappointed.

But I'll still buy it.

Spoiler

With DKR2

 

[Circinus]

Why would Nintendo be funding a Diddy Kong Racing 2 when they could make a much more lucrative new Mario Kart?

Sure, they did the same thing on N64 and maybe they might co-exist and be profitable, but I don't know, seems like there could easily be audience overlap between Diddy Kong Racing and Mario Kart that might only spend their money once on a kart racing game.

 

[DrROBschiz]

I can see them going for a PSN route. You see a game and it lists what platforms you can play it on in the bottom. NX Portable can play some games, but not all. NX Console can play pretty much any game.

A two systems approach?

Im thinking a single system that does both is more likely but this is intriguing

Could solve a few design pitfalls for sure

 

[Trago]

Rolls back in the mass market and families

Guys them taking the budget route could be more dsiruptive than we think

Especially if the system can deliver games at WiiU quality and higher

But how in hell would this make third parties positive about their hardware initially?

Who is gonna support this thing? I'm of the opinion that Nintendo wont go for powerful hardware with NX, but a souped up Wii U makes no sense for anyone to make games on the thing.

I mean, unless we're talking about a handheld here, and even then, how does Wii U hardware even translate into a handheld form factor?

This is a bullshit rumor.

 

[Neoxon]

I can see them going for a PSN route. You see a game and it lists what platforms you can play it on in the bottom. NX Portable can play some games, but not all. NX Console can play pretty much any game except mainline Pokémon games.

FTFY

But how in hell would this make third parties positive about their hardware initially?

Who is gonna support this thing? I'm of the opinion that Nintendo wont go for powerful hardware with NX, but a souped up Wii U makes no sense for anyone to make games on the thing.

I mean, unless we're talking about a handheld here, and even then, how does Wii U hardware even translate into a handheld form factor?

This is a bullshit rumor.

That's the thing, expecting third parties to come back after the multiple times Nintendo has burned them is a fool's dream at best. If this rumor is true (which I somewhat doubt given the source), Nintendo can make a Nintendo box that's basically an impulse buy.

 

[Krev]

I can see them going for a PSN route. You see a game and it lists what platforms you can play it on in the bottom. NX Portable can play some games, but not all. NX Console can play pretty much any game.

Another point of reference is iPad and iPhone. You could get graphical enhancements on the console form factor, but it would be essentially the same game.

I would actually be fine with that. There are a lot of 3DS games I want to play but I do not own a 3DS. So if Nintendo makes a console that houses all their games from handheld to console that would be awesome.

It would solve their software droughts. It's a great strategic move really.

FTFY

haha

Spoiler

fuck you Pokemon Company

 

[foltzie1]

$50 too expensive.

Ok, I'll admit, I laughed.

 

[jimi_dini]

I SAID ALL THE GAMES

I have a console at home that I play sometimes to relax. I have to get one of these NX for the car.

 

[TheSlySoul]

A two systems approach?

Im thinking a single system that does both is more likely but this is intriguing

Could solve a few design pitfalls for sure

Yeah, from what we know NX is not a successor to Wii U or 3DS. It is unique.
Nintendo is claiming it is as powerful as a home console so people will not write it off.

It could be one or two SKUs. We shall see next E3.

 

[DrROBschiz]

But how in hell would this make third parties positive about their hardware initially?

Who is gonna support this thing? I'm of the opinion that Nintendo wont go for powerful hardware with NX, but a souped up Wii U makes no sense for anyone to make games on the thing.

I mean, unless we're talking about a handheld here, and even then, how does Wii U hardware even translate into a handheld form factor?

This is a bullshit rumor.

Install base

Its what they did with the Wii. Cheap Nintendo systems sell. Especially if the games are there.

People already LOVE the WiiU software but hate the system

At 150 with all the fluff stripped away? This thing could be in every house

 

[wildfire]

but whats the gimmick?

Nintendo will still be making awesome first party games but this won't do anything for the 3rd party problem.

The gimmick is no game pad support and an infinite loop of apologies.

 

[Mr. Giggles]

wow.

Put me in camp "I don't believe you".

 

[Jade Knight 08]

$149....uuuh huh. It sounded like to me its gonna be a set top box add-on for the Wii u.

 

[Principate]

Yeah, the gimmick would be the fact that any game you buy you could take it with you on the go. Wii U's whole gimmick was "you can play the games without a TV!"

The Vita already tried and failed with that gimmick, hell, the psp already tried and failed with that gimmick, it would take a gigantic amount of incompetence to use the selling points your competitors tried and failed to do (in the Vita's case most spectacularly).

They could do it and I wouldn't be surprised if they did, but even they should be able to see the warning signs of that being the sole gimmick.

 

[Neoxon]

Eh, business is business. If it's ever viable for third parties to port software to Nintendo (ie install bases are handsome and the hardware is standardised enough for assets/code to carry over without costly revision), then they'll do it. It's just that these circumstances haven't occurred since, well, forever. Nintendo is probably realising right about now that unless they can do the Wii all over again, which is unlikely, then they'll at the very least need to do Gamecube again due to the way the market has shifted.

Nintendo is going to do their thing with Mario and Zelda for as long as they can, that much is inevitable. If they can also factor contemporary third party software into that bargain, then they no longer necessarily represent a strictly supplementary console and could potentially compete (albeit on a smaller scale) with PS4/XB1, especially if gen 8 is as unexpectedly drawn out as the last.

But here's the problem. On top of Nintendo burning them multiple times in the past, there isn't much of an audience for games like Call of Duty or Assassin's Creed on Nintendo systems.

 

[maxcriden]

We already know that whatever Retro is making isn't Metroid.

Still, I'm calling BS on this rumor.

I don't think we know that for sure. Right?

 

[TheSlySoul]

Another point of reference is iPad and iPhone. You could get graphical enhancements on the console form factor, but it would be essentially the same game.

Yeah, I can see that happening.
Heck, we already got an example with Mario vs. DK: Tipping Stars.
It was made using a new development software which allows a 3DS and Wii U port to be a click of a button. If NX games move toward using that software, it would be really easy to make cross-platform games.

The comments about a game taking 2-3 years of development means if they are going to make a portable and console upgrade, it needs to share a library to avoid droughts.

As such, I don't believe the rumors. But if NX Portable is pretty much Wii U power and $150, I am not complaining.

 

[Neoxon]

I don't think we know that for sure. Right?

The comment about them taking 3 years to make a Metroid game if they were to start now pretty much sealed it.

 

[BGBW]

I SAID ALL THE GAMES

Even Diddy Kong Racing 2?

 

[xDUMPWEEDx]

150 Bucks? Unless NX is some kind of Add On for the Wii U I don't believe that to be true

That would fail spectacularly. 32X levels of fail.

OP, this rumor is 100% fake.

 

[DrROBschiz]

But here's the problem. On top of Nintendo burning them multiple times in the past, there isn't much of an audience for games like Call of Duty or Assassin's Creed on Nintendo systems.

yeah

Honestly, chasing the PS4/Xbone crowd seems far more risky than a budget and focused effort on Nintendo fans and mass family market

Plus with the success of Amiibo and expansion into mobile.... Making the move into the PS4/XB1 makes even less sense and contradictory to their strategy

 

[Lilalaunebaer]

If the home console is basically a wii u again, which means its processing power is comparable to a console release in 2005, i´ll be done with them. The rumor is probably false anyway.

Or he means the handheld which would be probable.

 

[BuggyMike]

Yeah, from what we know NX is not a successor to Wii U or 3DS. It is unique.
Nintendo is claiming it is as powerful as a home console so people will not write it off.

It could be one or two SKUs. We shall see next E3.

Do you happen to have a link to Nintendo saying it's not a successor to wii u/3ds and that its going to be as powerful as a home console?

 

[Mets9]

I need to remember this thread when NX will be revealed at next e3: 150 bucks, DK racing 2 launch title

Spoiler

yeah, I don't believe it too

 

[Rodin]

He also said this, though

https://twitter.com/Doctor_Cupcakes/status/615495330247901185

Ok, thanks.

That's a lot of fucking details.

EDIT: None of this Kevin Callahan's rumors have ever been confirmed, right?

I've looked it up a bit and apparently he's talking about Diddy Kong Racing on Wii U at least since last year. If he made it up, he surely wants people to believe him.

 

[Trago]

Install base

Its what they did with the Wii. Cheap Nintendo systems sell. Especially if the games are there.

People already LOVE the WiiU software but hate the system

At 150 with all the fluff stripped away? This thing could be in every house

I agree that this thing needs to be cheap, but with more modern hardware. This is kinda why I'm worried if they will make this console backwards compatible.

And all they would need to do with what you suggested is patch all system functionality to work without the Gamepad and we're golden.

 

[DaSorcerer7]

The comment about them taking 3 years to make a Metroid game if they were to start now pretty much sealed it.

I think you're reading way too much into these comments.

 

[DrROBschiz]

If the home console is basically a wii u again, which means its processing power is comparable to a console release in 2005, i´ll be done with them. The rumor is probably false anyway.

Or he means the handheld which would be probable.

Hold the phone

Dont people want to play Nintendo games without investing 300 into a WiiU?

If anything this should be something that owners of the other consoles should LOVE

I agree that this thing needs to be cheap, but with more modern hardware. This is kinda why I'm worried if they will make this console backwards compatible.

And all they would need to do with what you suggested is patch all system functionality to work without the Gamepad and we're golden.

It IS getting more power according to the rumor.

On WiiU beautiful games like Smash and Mario Kart already do 1080p/60

Enough power will hitting the 150 price point would be insane

 

[Kimawolf]

But here's the problem. On top of Nintendo burning them multiple times in the past, there isn't much of an audience for games like Call of Duty or Assassin's Creed on Nintendo systems.

Eh you can build audiences if you really want to as a first party. But its Nintendo's job to do it with the right software. If they invested in a "mature" fps or tps and led the way they could get the audience. It just is they haven't really tried.

 

[Immaculate]

This sounds plausible, they basically did the same thing with the wii, after the GC bombed.

gc was profitable for nintendo

 

[popeutlal]

Well there goes all hope of seeing Nintendo games finally running in 1080p, maybe NX can do 1080i.

 

[Griss]

Matt Casamassina 'Realistic Kid Icarus is coming!'-tier rumour.

 

[Taker666]

$149....uuuh huh. It sounded like to me its gonna be a set top box add-on for the Wii u.

Take out the gamepad, streaming tech (and maybe the Blu-ray drive)..and I'm pretty confident they can release a device a tad more powerful than Wii U for $150 (a fair bit more powerful if it's launching late next year/2017).

 

[TheSlySoul]

Do you happen to have a link to Nintendo saying it's not a successor to wii u/3ds and that its going to be as powerful as a home console?

Home console link: http://attackofthefanboy.com/news/nintendo-nx-pretty-much-confirmed-as-a-new-home-console/
I cannot prove the successor, but the graph they presented is interesting to me:

Not attaching it to Wii U or 3DS is why I think it is not a successor.

 

[AlStrong]

 

[Rodin]

That would fail spectacularly. 32X levels of fail.

OP, this rumor is 100% fake.

Well, considering this seems to be the common opinion i think we can move on. No point in discussing something considered to be 100% fake
Should i ask a mod to lock this?

 

[DrROBschiz]

Eh you can build audiences if you really want to as a first party. But its Nintendo's job to do it with the right software. If they invested in a "mature" fps or tps and led the way they could get the audience. It just is they haven't really tried.

They would have to build a system with comparable architecture and invest heavily in making their system stand out against severly harsh competition

I feel like the opposite approach is a safer and more lucrative bet