Manmademan
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SERIOUSLY held back by the limitations of the PS1. would have been game of the generation on PS2.
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Games that came out before their time?
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SERIOUSLY held back by the limitations of the PS1. would have been game of the generation on PS2.
Grumpy-Gamer
Banned
The first and third Crysis games....mainly due to the fact hardly any pc was powerfull enough to tun them on release. The 3rd Crysis game is still used to measure the new graphics cards even today
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
^ Yeah, just from a technical standpoint Crysis was a 2009/2010 game that came out in 2007.
daTRUballin
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Conker's Bad Fur Day
If the game would've released sooner, it definitely would've been more successful and controversial. I'm surprised this game didn't get much attention.
If the game would've released sooner, it definitely would've been more successful and controversial. I'm surprised this game didn't get much attention.
LamerDeluxe
Member
Rocket League is a better name and a better game. The previous games name was ridiculous and the title wasn't ahead of its time.
The game Road Trip Adventure had a car soccer minigame.
And Rollcage Stage II had rubble soccer.
Cameron122
Member
It's basically mount and blade and Crusader Kings in Space. With Tie Fighter combat.
Chromehounds Neroimus War Mode.
Still to date the most engaging online multiplayer structure I've ever played.
You made a squad, customized your mech, and then chose an allegience to one of 3 countries.
THen you entered neroimus war mode.
here you can see Sal Kar (the green flag nation) getting absolutley fucked from both sides. This was usually the case for Sal Kar (less territory, more advanced weapons/money) But when my squad pledged allegience to Sal Kar for a season to get their gear, we ended up winning the war one of the VERY few times Sal Kar has done so.
Shown was a map of the region in REAL TIME. So the goal is for YOUR country to take over the other 2 capital cities. That is one season. You pick a battlefield (flag on the map) and fight other humans (if they were there) or AI. You get more points for beating humans. If players from your country got enough wins/occupation points they would take over that area and move to fight an adjacent area.
So you could log on, see that your country is making moves in the North and go help out. Log out. Go to sleep. Log back in, and you see that an enemy country is starting to get close to your capital from the south. Do you keep attacking and keep your progress up north or go defend?
Meanwhile you could vote to elect leaders of countries, donate to countries (when you log on it would give you lists of players by gamertag that donated a substantial amount) each country had its own style and excluisve weapons.
At the end of every season the map resets and a new war starts.
It was so cool and I still haven't seen it copied anywhere.
Not exactly the same but have you checked out Planetside 2? You might like it.
N30RYU
Member
Evolva (didn't remember the name of this game) was amazing.
You control a grup of aliens that evolve eating the remains of their enemies making your arms becoming blades, fire resistant, faster...
https://youtu.be/MT97Qj9Wz9g
You control a grup of aliens that evolve eating the remains of their enemies making your arms becoming blades, fire resistant, faster...
https://youtu.be/MT97Qj9Wz9g
Krappadizzle
Member
Crysis 1. The world(and it's PC's) weren't ready.
Gunslinger
Member
Vampire: the masquerade bloodlines.
Open world. Day/night cycles. Tons of minigames like darts & arcade machines. Could enter a ton of buildings/ open all drawers & dressers in a house, etc..
I'll admit it was years and years ago so I'm probably wrong, but are you sure Shenmue was open world? I remember the mini games and that but I don't remember an open world or the ability to enter tons of buildings. I just vaguely remember a town street, some sailors and a forklift.
leesmapman
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Metal Gear 2 is a 16 bit game on an 8 bit platform.
Finale Fireworker
Member
This is a really good one. I played this for the first time just a month or so ago and couldn't believe it. It puts other 8-Bit games to shame in just how advanced it is in its conceptual presentation and systems. A lot of 8-Bit games feel really prototypical that were better realized later in their "Super" 16-Bit iterations. But Metal Gear 2 really turns out something incredible out of 8-Bit format.
I see a lot of games in this thread which I think don't really answer OP's question. To me, a game 'came out before their time' is a game which:
1) Introduced a relatively new idea, concept or mechanic and;
2) Was released in a time or environment where the right audience or market to which this idea appealed was hard to reach and consequently did not sell as intended/hoped and/or;
3) Was released on a platform of which the technology was not sufficient to flesh out the concerning idea leading to the game not performing as intended/hoped.
1) Introduced a relatively new idea, concept or mechanic and;
2) Was released in a time or environment where the right audience or market to which this idea appealed was hard to reach and consequently did not sell as intended/hoped and/or;
3) Was released on a platform of which the technology was not sufficient to flesh out the concerning idea leading to the game not performing as intended/hoped.
Black Pewter
Member
The Movies by Lionhead Studios could've been better and moe appreciated ahd it released today imo.
Super_Cobra
Member
Resident evil 4.
WordsintheWater
Member
Although it wasn't a great game I would say Urban Chaos for the PS1, it was a game with an open world way ahead of it's time, I remember objects having some sort of physics on them as well
There was an article a while ago speculating that both the game and Nintendo would have been better off had Perfect Dark 1 been held off and released for the Gamecube launch.
Omikron the Nomad Soul
For some reason that screenshot makes me want to play it.
I think if FF12 and FF13 had their releases (and platforms) switched around they'd have been better received.
Shenmue definitely wasn't open world in the sense of a sandbox game. In today's context it's a bit more similar to immersive sims like Bethesda games in terms of how the world works as a system of AIs and cycles. Western PC games had already been doing that kind of thing by 1999, but it was a shock to see this kind of thing attempted for a Japanese console game at the time.
I wanted to post this one. Metal Gear 2 (the 2nd MSX game) is pretty much MGS1 eight years before MGS1.
I really think it would have stood out as a classic had they released a Super NES version in the west. They could have just called it "Super Metal Gear."
BizzyBum
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Neocron
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l45Izp66QvM
A Cyberpunk MMOFPS that had actual FPS twitch like combat that came out all the way back in fucking 2002 for the PC.
Yeah it was buggy as fuck but to me it was wayyy ahead of its time and never a huge success. The original Devs left awhile ago but were nice enough to give the entire game to the community and it's actually still playable and being updated which is remarkable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l45Izp66QvM
A Cyberpunk MMOFPS that had actual FPS twitch like combat that came out all the way back in fucking 2002 for the PC.
Yeah it was buggy as fuck but to me it was wayyy ahead of its time and never a huge success. The original Devs left awhile ago but were nice enough to give the entire game to the community and it's actually still playable and being updated which is remarkable.
daTRUballin
Member
I agree with this. I think if games like Perfect Dark and Conker were released as Gamecube launch titles, it would've helped both Nintendo and the games a lot. It also would've helped quiet down the whole "GC is kiddy" stigma that the console had. Perhaps Nintendo would've decided to keep Rare if those titles would've really helped them at launch.
The only problem with this is that Perfect Dark would've had to compete directly with Halo, and I'm not sure what the outcome would've been if that was the case.
Triggerhappytel
Member
Metal Gear Solid 3 was ahead of its time. It's got survival like so many games nowadays have, it's kind of 'open world', you have loads of gameplay depth in being able to do things like use animals against enemies, the plot centres around a really strong female character and you can play it as a stealth game or an action game. Edit - and it had online multiplayer. It's like the template for one of the most popular genres today, seven years before all the others.
I feel Exhumed/ Powerslave on the Saturn and PS1 got unfairly labeled as a basic "Doom clone" shooter from many sources at the time. In reality it was less of a shooter and more like an ahead of its time Metroid Prime set in Egypt as the emphasis was more on exploration and picking up artifacts that grant you new powers to get to previously out of reach areas.
Thankfully a small number of places did sing its praises and I got to play it which I wouldn't have done if I thought it was just a shooter.
Thankfully a small number of places did sing its praises and I got to play it which I wouldn't have done if I thought it was just a shooter.
I think Mirror's Edge might have been this. It came out in an awkward transition period just before the Souls games and Indie revival made both unforgiving and/or arcadey time-trial type games accepted again. As it is it frequently got judged as a one and done story game, when it was actually something different. If it had come out 2-3 years later I think it would have been better understood and got a more positive initial reception. On the other hand ME was probably one of the games that contributed to that shift in perception in the first place...
Chromehounds Neroimus War Mode.
Still to date the most engaging online multiplayer structure I've ever played.
You made a squad, customized your mech, and then chose an allegience to one of 3 countries.
THen you entered neroimus war mode.
here you can see Sal Kar (the green flag nation) getting absolutley fucked from both sides. This was usually the case for Sal Kar (less territory, more advanced weapons/money) But when my squad pledged allegience to Sal Kar for a season to get their gear, we ended up winning the war one of the VERY few times Sal Kar has done so.
Shown was a map of the region in REAL TIME. So the goal is for YOUR country to take over the other 2 capital cities. That is one season. You pick a battlefield (flag on the map) and fight other humans (if they were there) or AI. You get more points for beating humans. If players from your country got enough wins/occupation points they would take over that area and move to fight an adjacent area.
So you could log on, see that your country is making moves in the North and go help out. Log out. Go to sleep. Log back in, and you see that an enemy country is starting to get close to your capital from the south. Do you keep attacking and keep your progress up north or go defend?
Meanwhile you could vote to elect leaders of countries, donate to countries (when you log on it would give you lists of players by gamertag that donated a substantial amount) each country had its own style and excluisve weapons.
At the end of every season the map resets and a new war starts.
It was so cool and I still haven't seen it copied anywhere.
This man speaks the truth! And always being in a lobby with your clan mates was ace!
Here's hoping MS weren't playing with us when they said the reboot is still on the table.Robert at Zeboyd Games
Banned
Yeah, I think it's a shame that many people stopped playing Mirror's Edge after finishing the story mode. As far as I'm concerned, the story mode is one long tutorial before you start the real game.
Came to post this. Bioshock and Infamous have done well in a somewhat similar vein.
The variety of powers in Psi-Ops really created a fun, albeit linear, sandbox. Outside of a few old-school inspired shooters, there aren't a lot of linear games that let you experiment with a bunch of different mechanics that way. Every mechanic was brilliant, but the freedom of options with telekinesis were really impressive, and no one has even come remotely close since.
I still hope that someday we'll see what's after that 'To be continued' screen.
Ivan Amiibo
Banned
speaking of roguelike resurgence, throw this in there:
I don't think Druaga would be a huge hit, but it wouldn't have been met with so much "this is too hard waaaaa." It's a perfectly fun little roguelike, sitting at 57 metacritic. It'd also get some attention for how it goes to great lengths to make sure you don't cheat. It knows when you reset, turn off the console, do anything that quits you out of the game, then lectures you on it, threatens you, then corrupts your save if you do it too much, I think.
Good call. Dragon Quarter being released nowadays as a new IP in a time where people are way more receptive towards hardcore games and starved for JRPGs would have been much better received than it was back then. It came out at the wrong time attached to the wrong IP, sadly. Probably the most underrated game I've ever played.
One of my top 5 rpgs that's for sure.
Soltype
Member
Essentially, I actually think it's better than Solid.For a game that came in '90 the plot is very well made.
Truth.
Honestly I agree, at least in terms of how the gameplay is balanced.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
It's like Borderlands, only better. ;P Seriously though that looks pretty neat. Nice art style.
User 479360
Banned
These gems
Vanquish: Short with no MP back when Gears of War was still popular and every game had to have MP.
Binary Domain: Tried to fix Vanquish's failings but everyone was sick of Gears and the bubble had burst on MP unless it was F2P.
SEGA got Vanquish and Binary Domain the wrong way around.
Binary Domain: Tried to fix Vanquish's failings but everyone was sick of Gears and the bubble had burst on MP unless it was F2P.
SEGA got Vanquish and Binary Domain the wrong way around.
TheRedSnifit
Member
Was story-driven when shooters had excuse plots at best, had an emphasis on stealth and caution when shooter gameplay consisted of "run into room at 50 mph and blow everything up", had Thief-style emergent gameplay before Thief was a thing, combined shooter and RPG gameplay at a time when such a thing was unheard of, and had a stupendously advanced engine for a 1994 PC game.
But it's a pretty textbook case of coming out at the wrong time. It was myopically dismissed as a Doom clone, and its system requirements were too steep to reach as wide an audience as its contemporaries. But even shooter fans who could run it weren't interested in much more than running around shooting stuff in the face (not that that's not fun!), and in the end it sold pretty poorly. It's rather ironic in hindsight, since modern shooters take after SS far more than Doom. Hell, Doom 3 cribs more than a few concepts from it and SS2, and the new Wolfenstein is, well, a story-driven shooter with stealth elements and an RPG-ish upgrade system.
Good call, had online play for the ps2, that was crazy.
A sequel would EXPLODE with youtubers
GameAddict411
Member
MGS2
Unmasked Ferret
Member
Maybe Eternal Darkness going by how poorly it sold despite being great.
crazyrabbits
Banned
In a way, the original Deus Ex has never been matched in the stealth RPG genre, especially by its sequels.
Want to kill off a boss far earlier than expected, at a point where you're expected to believe said character is invulnerable? You can do that, and you get new cutscenes and dialogue in response.
Want to skip a mission, then go back to the same area immediately after despite having no discernible reason to? The game acknowledges that and has a character call you out on your screwup.
Kill NPC's before their role in the plot is revealed, and have people comment on it? Check.
Virtually every possible thing you can do in the game is accounted for, and the plot reacts accordingly. It still blows my mind how much content there is to see on repeated playthroughs - extra dialogue for people who access locations through routes not normally possible to take, sequence breaks (skipping the catacombs) reflected in a set of dialogue, characters having different dialogue depending on what point you met them in the story...
Want to kill off a boss far earlier than expected, at a point where you're expected to believe said character is invulnerable? You can do that, and you get new cutscenes and dialogue in response.
Want to skip a mission, then go back to the same area immediately after despite having no discernible reason to? The game acknowledges that and has a character call you out on your screwup.
Kill NPC's before their role in the plot is revealed, and have people comment on it? Check.
Virtually every possible thing you can do in the game is accounted for, and the plot reacts accordingly. It still blows my mind how much content there is to see on repeated playthroughs - extra dialogue for people who access locations through routes not normally possible to take, sequence breaks (skipping the catacombs) reflected in a set of dialogue, characters having different dialogue depending on what point you met them in the story...
kingwingin
Member
The world wasn't ready for a third person shooter with cover as its main game play mechanic
Man, I really regret having missed this, makes hope for a remaster at some point.
OT: I think games that were well ahead of their generation of games would be Baldurs Gate 2/Planescape, Deus Ex, Morrowind, FEAR and WoW. Each did things that wildly surpassed what others of the same genre just had no answer to.
GeNoMe
Member
I used to play the shit out of this game with a friend of mine. It was really good!The world wasn't ready for a third person shooter with cover as its main game play mechanic
I actually just yesterday played the game, bought it a month back. I was surprised how open world it was (and the map shows quite a big area), you could pick up any vehicle you saw, you can interact with objects, kill people etc. I might play it more at some point, but I just wanted to see if it works (got it for 5),