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Stories differ after Confederate flag wavers crash boy's birthday party

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marrec

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Did I read it right - that they drive around selling flags, to raise money to buy flags for people who can't afford flags?

They need to sell smaller flags so that they can afford to buy big flags for people who need flags.

The Flag market is cutthroat shit bro don't get confused. One wrong move and these guys are out in the desert answering to Mr. Boss about why they're encroaching on his Flag selling territory. Imagine Breaking Bad but with less Meth and more Flags, that is their life, and all because they want to give disabled veteran boy orphans more flags.

Patriots.
 

Acerac

Banned
I find it a little odd that everyone is magically assuming the party goers are in the right, when the video doesn't show anything other then the confederate guys driving away. The video doesn't show enough in my opinion to really support either side. At this point, it's really just a bunch of "He said, she said" (and even then, we don't really have enough information their either).

I guess it's not too surprising that a forum that's incredibly left leaning is going to instantly support the minority group though.

Where's the weird neighbor who constantly sticks his business in stuff that doesn't concern him and seems to know everything about every little thing going on in the neighborhood when you need him? Stuff like this is where unbiased 3rd parties come in handy.

What could the party goers have possibly done to make them the guilty party?

This isn't about being left leaning, this is about Occam's Razor. It's incredibly hard for a stationary group of party goers to antagonize a group of people in trucks. Beyond that, the people who were in trucks admitted to using racist remarks when referring to the party goers.

This... isn't a huge leap of logic here.
 

Paskil

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What could the party goers have possibly done to make them the guilty party?

This isn't about being left leaning, this is about Occam's Razor. It's incredibly hard for a stationary group of party goers to antagonize a group of people in trucks. Beyond that, the people who were in trucks admitted to using racist remarks when referring to the party goers.

This... isn't a huge leap of logic here.

He had a flat tire, breh, from fish tailing to escape their barrage of rocks. I bet these terrorists went over to the Gaza Strip and learned elite rock throwing abilities from them terrorists trying to take over the holy land.
 

WanderingWind

Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Did I read it right - that they drive around selling flags, to raise money to buy flags for people who can't afford flags?

When you think about it, this really is the most American situation that has ever happened in the history of our glorious nation.
 

mclem

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“I don’t have a problem if that’s their culture,” Alford said. “… If they want to make a statement that these flags mean something to them, I’m OK with that. But you’ve got to do it right. You can’t go around just blatantly terrorizing people.”
Look at this fucker's revisionist history out at full force

Alford was one of the partygoers.
 

massoluk

Banned
Regarless of what happened, these assholes still don't see the irony of putting the American flag and the traitor's flag right next together.
 

HeySeuss

Member
So these redneck yokels paraded their pickemup trucks with their coal blowers loud as shit drawing attention to themselves and their trucks decked out in confederate garb, drive up and down the road.

Probably not deliberately trying to piss off the birthday party, but who knows. Karma hits and dude gets a flat tire, causing them to all pull over in the vicinity of the party. Party goers not knowing they have a flat tire, assume they are there to start shit, and probably rightfully so, come out to see what they're doing.

Tempers flare, insults go back and forth rednecks resort to dropping the n word which enrages the party people more. Rocks get thrown at the truck and then all hell breaks loose. And threats of guns and shooting people because someone threw a rock at his precious 1995 Ford F150 with accessories worth more than the entire shitty truck.

I bet that's close. Usually the truth is somewhere in the middle of the two stories.

But heritage not hate. Because apparently saying they're going to "shoot some n*****" isn't hate at all. Just defending his manhood and his truck.
 
Regarless of what happened, these assholes still don't see the irony of putting the American flag and the traitor's flag right next together.

Ain't about that. It's about driving the fuck around trying to intimidate abd terrorize people of color with that shit. It's terrorism pure and simple. The original American terrorism.
 

The Technomancer

card-carrying scientician
Seriously the only way the partygoers would have had time to initiate shit with rocks and shouting if they were just "driving by" is if they were driving by at about 3 miles an hour. And if they were, well, I bet some shit was getting shouted as well.
 
What could the party goers have possibly done to make them the guilty party?

This isn't about being left leaning, this is about Occam's Razor. It's incredibly hard for a stationary group of party goers to antagonize a group of people in trucks. Beyond that, the people who were in trucks admitted to using racist remarks when referring to the party goers.

This... isn't a huge leap of logic here.

Well, someone shouted out "Gimme the gun, I'm gonna shoot those n*****s". I'm not saying it was the white trash pricks as it could have been someone from the party, but y'know...
 
The selling flags to buy flags thing...That's a b-subplot in American Dad basically. haha

"Hayley and Jeff then announce that they are going to the store to buy beads so Jeff could open his own bead store. "
 

jstripes

Banned
That sounds like ISIS

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Koomaster

Member
If only the people at the party had flags, this could have been avoided. It takes a good person with a flag to stop a bad person with a flag.
 
Even if the guys in the trucks were just driving around with Confederate flags and not purposefully instigating something, they still should have had rocks thrown at them.

No they shouldn't? You don't have a right to cause bodily harm to someone just because you don't like what they believe, say, or happen to be carrying/wearing. What the hell?
 
At what point does this become terroristic?

That sounds like ISIS

Hyperbole much? Do you consider the WBC a terrorist group too?

Even if the guys in the trucks were just driving around with Confederate flags and not purposefully instigating something, they still should have had rocks thrown at them.

Are you a fucking child? A group deserves violence against them because of a flag! Grow up.


One group beheads, executes, murders, rapes and mutilates, burns kids alive, the other group protests and is racist, must be the same.
 

Slayven

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They are free to fly the flag, but I am free to consider them terrorist. Flying the flag born to symbolize the white man's superiority over the black man, then resurrected to oppose civil rights. Why would someone want to wave it unless to show they empathize with those ideas? Nothing good has come from that flag

Not to mention it was mad for a people that wanted to say "fuck America, we going to our own shit"
 
They are free to fly the flag, but I am free to consider them terrorist. Flying the flag born to symbolize the white man's superiority over the black man, then resurrected to oppose civil rights. Why would someone want to wave it unless to show they empathize with those ideas? Nothing good has come from that flag

Not to mention it was mad for a people that wanted to say "fuck America, we going to our own shit"

No shit, nobody is saying you aren't free to consisder them terrorists. Doesn't take away from the fact that simply flying a flag doesn't qualify one as being a terrorist but have fun with thinking people are actually harming you just because they happen to be waiving a flag.
 

Slayven

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No shit, nobody is saying you aren't free to consisder them terrorists. Doesn't take away from the fact that simply flying a flag doesn't qualify one as being a terrorist but have fun with thinking people are actually harming you just because they happen to be waiving a flag.

You too cute.

The worse harm is the unspoken one "You better know your place", "Go back to where you come from", and "You think you shit because you can vote".

That flag's history is deep with blood and terror.
 
You too cute.

The worse harm is the unspoken one "You better know your place", "Go back to where you come from", and "You think you shit because you can vote".

That flag's history is deep with blood and terror.

And? The flag itself isn't terrorstic. It's those who actually do harm and just because someone waves a flag they're not doing harm worthy to be referred to as a terrorist.
If you're going to refer to someone as a terrorist simply for holding a view that you're opposed to then have fun in life. You're going to face quite a few 'terrorists'.
 

Slayven

Member
And? The flag itself isn't terrorstic. It's those who actually do harm and just because someone waves a flag they're not doing harm worthy to be referred to as a terrorist.
If you're going to refer to someone as a terrorist simply for holding a view that you're opposed to then have fun in life. You're going to face quite a few 'terrorists'.

Black people being less than human is just an "opposing view", slavery is just an "opposing view", and denying civil rights to people is "opposing view"?

This isn't pineapples on pizza this is people's lives. And if people support a stance that denies another person peace and liberty just because they are different? I will asboultuly call them a terrorist
 

pigeon

Banned
One group beheads, executes, murders, rapes and mutilates, burns kids alive, the other group protests and is racist, must be the same.

People flying the Confederate flag (sometimes under their white sheet, admittedly) have done all those things and more, in living memory, right here in America.
 
This has been cracking me up for at least half an hour straight. I still can't stop blurting out chuckles every now and then. Fuck me.

me too, i can just imagine Levi Bush doing some sort of televised appeal on some cable access channel

"This here is little Billy Bob, he's eight years old and [fights back tears, bites clenched fist] he's never had a flag to wave! for just $9.95 you can sponsor a flag for little Billy bob and all the other little billy bobs out there so unfortunate as to never have had a flag"

"This here is Bessy Mae, she had a flag for 65 years, it was her grand pappy's he had it from his grand father, it was made during the civil war, when many a brave soul fell to the damn Yankies who wanted to stop civil rights [cups hand over mouth and talks to side camera] Not Slavery as those damn yankie liars will say the confederates stood for [back to main camera] well just last week, she lost her flag, it was flying from her grand son's Ford Pick up during a flag rally, when it was cruely ripped down by protester at a nearby Birthday party, [fights back tears, bites clenched fist]gosh darn it breaks my heart, but for $15.95 you can replace this flag with a quality reproduction"

those in need of flags HA
 
If you're going to refer to someone as a terrorist simply for holding a view that you're opposed to then have fun in life. You're going to face quite a few 'terrorists'.

I like the abstraction of a history of racism with deep connections to lynching, intimidation, disenfranchisement and slavery down to 'a view you oppose.'
 
Black people being less than human is just an "opposing view", slavery is just an "opposing view", and denying civil rights to people is "opposing view"?

This isn't pineapples on pizza this is people's lives. And if people support a stance that denies another person peace and liberty just because they are different? I will asboultuly call them a terrorist

And you know for a fact that every single person who holds the flag supports those views? Ok. I'd love to be able to read minds too, please tell me your secret.
 

pigeon

Banned
And do you know for a fact that those who are waiving the confederate flag support these actions? If so, please do tell how.

That's what the Confederate flag stands for.

If you don't want people thinking you're a racist and a potential terrorist, probably don't fly the Confederate flag.
 
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