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Summer Anime 2015 |OT| SharingMana

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Squalor

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That's like saying GaoGaiGar has no tension because you know the heroes are going to win.
I would absolutely say that show had no tension.

It was just as dull and repetitive. It featured no character depth or development.

Yeah, they're a lot alike in that regard.
 
I don't know, it has a ton of flaws, mainly resulting from being too repetitive. That said from an animation standpoint, it's also one of the best looking mecha shows in existence and the climaxes are very well done. I wouldn't recommend it but there are people that like it, Corvo for one.

Corvo has never let me down when it comes to good mecha.

If I'm getting great animation, fantastic climaxes, a great soundtrack, decent characters, and super robots looking awesome, I think I'll enjoy it just fine.

I would absolutely say that show had no tension.

It was just as dull and repetitive. It featured no character depth or development.

Yeah, they're a lot alike in that regard.

Well, the original series was a monster of the week show aimed for children...
 

Walpurgis

Banned
I'm on Naruto Shippuuden episode 345 so I have seen the first episode of
the Obito/Madara
flashback. I noticed in this filler guide that I am approaching a filler arc that fills in the story of what happened to Kakashi after Obito and Rin died up until he meets Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura. I found the Power (Chikara) arc and the episodes with the 6 tailed Jinchuuriki to be pretty good fillers and well worth watching. Are these Kakashi of a similar quality?
 

blurr

Member
I quite liked Gunbuster, it was pretty clear that it inspired a lot of other shows, it still feels watchable. Some aspects of the story felt really stupid but it made good use of the time dilation as a plot device. I've seen Interstellar before this so it kind of reminded me of it.

Yet to check out Diebuster.
 

Jarmel

Banned
There are few works, especially action shows, where the audience can't figure out the outcome in advance. Drama and tension don't require the outcome to be unpredictable but rather it's about the presentation of the protagonist's struggles. It's about the protagonist being pushed into a corner where they might doubt themselves or others and either have to use out of the box thinking or go to extraordinary lengths to overcome it. It's about making the audience believe, just for a moment, that the hero might not win. This isn't necessarily dependent on the outcome, although it certainly can be, but rather demonstrating the stress on the characters in a believable format.
 
Corvo has never let me down when it comes to good mecha.

If I'm getting great animation, fantastic climaxes, a great soundtrack, decent characters, and super robots looking awesome, I think I'll enjoy it just fine.

Don't expect this from Star Driver. The characters are all terrible. Some of the worst I can think of. None of them have any personality, and there's like 30 of them, most of them barely distinguishable from each other.

As far as characters go, the only thing you should expect from Star Driver is crippling disappointment.
 

kewlmyc

Member
Tension requires the hero to be in some form of danger. Episode 8 presented him with Sugata as an opponent who was actually more skilled than him, and Takuto barely won by the skin of his teeth. The show properly built up to the fight, delving into Sugata's personal problems and responsibilities, and Takuto was pinned down for most of the fight. Yes he won but that's largely inconsequential to how he got there.

Episode 16 had Takuto getting the shit beaten right the fuck out of him. The conclusion to the fight was one giant asspull but the rest of the fight was very well done from a storyboard and emotional level with Takuto considering why he was fighting in the first place and his desire to become a pilot. He had a 'loss of faith' moment and considering his position, there was tension into whether he would actually win or not.

I think you're under the illusion that Takuto breezed through the show when he barely won quite a few of the fights and him having the best mech in existence saved his ass under numerous occasions.

The show was written in a way that if the MC lost even once, the show would be over. So even if Takuto was having a hard time, you knew that there was 10 or so episodes left, so he was going to find some bullshit way to win. Ruined the tension in my opinion. Maybe there was character development for Takuto in episode 16, but never for a moment did I think he would lose the fight. The premise should have allowed for losses; it would have make the show better in my opinion.
 

Jarmel

Banned
I would absolutely say that show had no tension.

It was just as dull and repetitive. It featured no character depth or development.

Yeah, they're a lot alike in that regard.

Have you seen GaoGaiGar Final, I can't imagine someone saying that's dull or repetitive.

Corvo has never let me down when it comes to good mecha.

If I'm getting great animation, fantastic climaxes, a great soundtrack, decent characters, and super robots looking awesome, I think I'll enjoy it just fine.

The characters are all generally fun, despite Wako's 'Two Boys One Girl' problem. Soundtrack is stellar. It's a fun show but it has a ton of wasted potential.

The show was written in a way that if the MC lost even once, the show would be over. So even if Takuto was having a hard time, you knew that there was 10 or so episodes left, so he was going to find some bullshit way to win. Ruined the tension in my opinion. Maybe there was character development for Takuto in episode 16, but never for a moment did I think he would lose the fight. The premise should have allowed for losses.

Well he did end up losing. It should have happened sooner though so they could have moved the setting. It's not so much that the premise didn't allow for losses, it did, but rather that it should have happened sooner and the show expand past the island.
 
Don't expect this from Star Driver. The characters are all terrible. Some of the worst I can think of. None of them have any personality, and there's like 30 of them, most of them barely distinguishable from each other.

As far as characters go, the only thing you should expect from Star Driver is crippling disappointment.

You hated literally everybody in Gurren Lagann, so I'm not sure if I can take this seriously. :p
 
Chaos Dragon - 08

A fort is in danger due to a volcano eruption. So this white haired Guts comes forth from nowhere and expands his already huge sword, and cleaves the ground so the magma can't reach them. Bravo!
I lost it at the "twist", and when they did a dramatic reaction of everyone with the colors, and Urobutchers character not giving a single fuck. And for some reason there was zombie yuri??

Alright, Chaos Dragon, you win this time.
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I'll also say that even aside from all the characters having no personality, Star Driver's worst problem is that it's sub-Hanna-Barbera level.

Every single episode is pretty much exactly the same, with only small deviations here or there. After the first episode, I thought the show had potential. Little did I know they were just going to keep repeating the exact same plot except with the villain of the episode switched around.
 
Ninja Slayer 19

This was probably one of the better episodes in a while, lot's of great moments and quotes.
The announcer is still the best thing about this show, he has so much good lines.
I'm excited to see where this two-parter is going to end.

I'm actually excited to see how this whole series is going to end, I still kinda believe in the dream that the last episode will have decent animation but who knows?
 

Sterok

Member
School-Live 7

Yuuri is cruel. It seems she's the one most in favor of keeping Yuki in that state to ease her own sense of dread and whatnot. Yuki herself is highly unstable. Or perhaps she's hyper stable and is now just pretending to have her delusions? I sort of got that feeling this episode, though I'm sure it's not true. Otherwise a sort of cheery ep about balloons, pigeons, and letters.
 

javac

Member
I don't think that's the same thing, but I see what game you're trying to play :p Like I said earlier, the journey is the important part and how you get from A to B is what makes the events at B weightier as the events are put into perspective. You care about the characters and want to see them succeed, but with shows like Madoka and Lagann I didn't care about the outcomes because I felt that I wasn't given a reason to care. Lots of films have depressing imagery, films that chronicle the wars and yet Fireflies sticks out for a reason, not the ending but the way in which the story is told through its imagery and music. On paper, most anime series play out in a typical fashion as the story beats play out like tropes, clearly telegraphed from the first frame, and although some do contain unique gimmicks like time dilation, what separates the bad ones from the great ones is the part in the middle, obviously. A lot of it has to do with the audience too, which is why one person can watch a show like Evangelion and call Shinji a whiny bitch while another like myself could sympathize with him. I guess in that sense, when you watch something can have an impact on, well its impact on yourself.
 

phaze

Member
You think you can stop him? That only spurns him on.
I've no idea what I did to warrant this.
In other news, I might have to check out Diebuster. Didn't like Gunbuster really, but because of that I may actually like Diebuster?
Can't argue too much with Phaze's taste either...yet.
Diebuster is certainly very different from Gunbuster and (I'm sure you've heard this before,)more like FLCL or GL.

To preserve your high opinion of my taste, I will say that while I think it's a very good/great show in its own right (even if tad incomprehensible in the second half), it is a certain, beautiful and breathtaking, moment that just single handedly elevates it even further and into my top10.

Just watch Star Driver and call it a day. But don't expect anything close to Diebuster or FLCL. That's just setting yourself up for disappointment hell.

Honestly, everything I've read about SD up till now leads me to believe I will be better off if I experience it through sakugabooru.

God damn, I have Prison School (manga) withdrawals. Well, now I can be one of those manga readers that can't help but compare the anime to the source material.

Reading manga weekly is sufering. ;_; Especially after binging entire series beforehand.
 

javac

Member
I guess to go back to yesterdays convo, Diebuster is my guilty pleasure...yeah that checks out. It contains everything I hate in anime, from the visuals to the character designs, the mech designs, and a sequel to a top 5 show for me which is always an uphill battle, but I enjoyed it a lot when I watched it. Since it's short I just marathoned it. If Gunbuster was the physical manifestation of 80's Gainax, a pre Eva world, then Diebuster was the physical manifestation of 2000's post FLCL Gainax.
 

phaze

Member
I'm on Naruto Shippuuden episode 345 so I have seen the first episode of
the Obito/Madara
flashback. I noticed in this filler guide that I am approaching a filler arc that fills in the story of what happened to Kakashi after Obito and Rin died up until he meets Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura. I found the Power (Chikara) arc and the episodes with the 6 tailed Jinchuuriki to be pretty good fillers and well worth watching. Are these Kakashi of a similar quality?

I would say it's not worth it but I'd say the same about Six-tails arc. From what I remember, Kakashi filler is a bit weird in that it can be divided in two parts, the first being really bad and the second one, while still being bad (and silly in terms of filler addons to the canon material), had bits of Shisui, Itachi and the Uchiha conspiracy which made it a bit more palatable for me.

If you decide to skip it, watch these two scenes.

I guess to go back to yesterdays convo, Diebuster is my guilty pleasure...yeah that checks out. It contains everything I hate in anime, from the visuals to the character designs, the mech designs, and a sequel to a top 5 show for me which is always an uphill battle, but I enjoyed it a lot when I watched it. Since it's short I just marathoned it. If Gunbuster was the physical manifestation of 80's Gainax, a pre Eva world, then Diebuster was the physical manifestation of 2000's post FLCL Gainax.

It's a proper continuation in terms of fanservice at least.
 

Nafe

Member
Kyoukai no Rinne

Episode 20


When Sakura's mother started talking I immediately recognized her seiyuu as Fumi Hirano. She did/does the voice of Lum from Urusei Yatsura which is an earlier work also by Rumiko Takahashi.

Not only does she provide the voice but you'll notice by the picture that Sakura's mother also has green hair and her apron has the kind of tiger striped pattern just like Lum has. A neat little nod and cameo to another Takahashi character/work.

Otherwise it was kind of a fun episode with Rinne's antics on trying to be alone with Sakura. I also really like Ryohei Kimura as Tsubasa and his energy as far as Tsubasa getting excited or jealous and whatnot (usually involving Sakura,haha).
 
Star Driver and Captain Earth both were completely unenjoyable to me because I knew that there were many other episodes to go and both are set up on the premise that if the good guys loses even 1 fight it is game over everybody dies. Yes I know 'technically' Star Driver MC loses that one fight but at the end he really doesn't actually lose cause ASSPULL.

By default that means the MC/s will win many fights by absolute asspulls or nonsense because the writers have set up for no other option to take place. I cannot enjoy that at all and for me that makes the show of lesser quality.
 

kewlmyc

Member
Well he did end up losing. It should have happened sooner though so they could have moved the setting. It's not so much that the premise didn't allow for losses, it did, but rather that it should have happened sooner and the show expand past the island.

I don't remember that at all. What episode was that?
 
Ninja Slayer 19

This show is so fucking weird. They spent like 45 seconds just hovering on Nancy getting choked while she made weird noises. And then you have the panning down and up that takes like 5 seconds everytime EVA 01 Ninja and Bad Boss Guy talk because of height difference.

I can't tell if this is next level or terrible. At least the OST is good but it sounds like Hotline Miami songs that weren't good enough to make the cut.
 
Reading manga weekly is sufering. ;_; Especially after binging entire series beforehand.

Yeh that's why, as long as I remain strong willed, I don't intend to continue the manga anytime soon. Even while binge reading I felt like the chapters were so short that I was afraid the larger plot would hardly move along despite having above a hundred left. Well and that's kind of the case but not necessarily to a fault. But reading these chapters like one at a time weekly? No....no. That's impossible.
 

Cornbread78

Member
Chihayafuru ep 1-3:
Damn, I wasn't sure what to expect when starting this one, but the first three episodes are a mix of inspiration, angst, excitement and sadness as they take you through the story of how they started playing the game. I must say, it is a lame game, however, they make it appear like a great and exciting sport, lol. How they portrayed everything was really well done and I’m looking forward to seeing where they go with this story.
 
Humanity Has Declined 9

Watashi becomes Queen of the faries and starts building her new nation. However the new nation crumbles as the resources of the Island dwindle.

Watashi and the faries interactions are great.

Yeh that's why, as long as I remain strong willed, I don't intend to continue the manga anytime soon. Even while binge reading I felt like the chapters were so short that I was afraid the larger plot would hardly move along despite having above a hundred left. Well and that's kind of the case but not necessarily to a fault. But reading these chapters like one at a time weekly? No....no. That's impossible.

I don't understand how people find Weekly schedule for manga unbearable. I mean try reading a manga Monthly or even Quarterly. Weekly format is really fine, not that hard to wait.

Being a D-Gray Man fan is suffering especially waiting for a chapter every 3 months.
 

e_i

Member
So, GAF, should I buy:

Persona 4 LE

or

Selector Wixcoss LE
Tokyo Ghoul LE (not the big LE, but the smaller LE version)
 

phaze

Member
The only way to win is to not play.

Pretty much.

Gokukoku no Brynhildr 09

This was actually .... goo... tfu better. The memory manipulation skill and the way it was put to use by the apparent new haremite was entertaining. So was her (shortlived) cold bloodiness. Too bad mc's plot armor protected him from having all of his memories. up till birth erased. Would have made for a more enticing lead. The twist at the end may add some delicious despair to the whole conundrum.
 

Squalor

Junior Member
I understand this is anime, and they're ninjas, and they have chakra, but the way eye taking and implanting works in Naruto is fucking retarded.
 

TUSR

Banned
Umaru - 2
Gave this show a second shot, and rewatched the first too.

Still think the first episode is annoying, but the second is much better.

Prison School 5-6
AOTS.
 

JulianImp

Member
I've watched Oreimo S1 up to EP9 so far... it's a bit disappointing how Kirino's ulterior motives for being such a siscon are slowly being revealed as actually having a crush on her older brother. Having her play an eroge with a 100% tsun-tsun little sister who she despised despite acting exactly that way towards Kyousuke was a really ham-fisted move, IMO.

I didn't expect the girl with the swirly glasses and really old-fashioned speech patterns to be an ojou when not hanging out with fellow otakus so that was a suprise, but whether that's actually god or bad depends on how this new trait of hers is used. Seeing Kuroneko drop her acting when around her younger sister was also nice, but it almost feels the side characters are being explored while Krino herself appears to be a fairly flat and static character herself, which is a real shame.
 
I understand this is anime, and they're ninjas, and they have chakra, but the way eye taking and implanting works in Naruto is fucking retarded.

You could say the existence of Uchihas is what made Naruto become shit. Kishi really has a thing for eye powers and shit. I mean Izanagi is literally a bullshit asspull itself.

Then again I thought the series went to shit after the time skip.
 

Squalor

Junior Member
You could say the existence of Uchihas is what made Naruto become shit. Kishi really has a thing for eye powers and shit. I mean Izanagi is literally a bullshit asspull itself.

Then again I thought the series went to shit after the time skip.
If that were true, Itachi and Shisui wouldn't be so awesome. Also, Madara could have been awesome, but they neutered him and ruined his character.

It was ruined when everything turned out to be related to the Otsutsuki clan, and then in the last arc of the series, they pull out even more Otsutsuki's we'd never had any inkling or mention or hints of just to condense it to some bullshit "You're his reincarnation" angle.

Horrible world building. Horrible writing.
 

Joe Molotov

Member
Seeing Kuroneko drop her acting when around her younger sister was also nice, but it almost feels the side characters are being explored while Krino herself appears to be a fairly flat and static character herself, which is a real shame.

Enjoy it, because Krino is the worst character in the show and that never changes.
 

phaze

Member
You could say the existence of Uchihas is what made Naruto become shit. Kishi really has a thing for eye powers and shit. I mean Izanagi is literally a bullshit asspull itself.

Then again I thought the series went to shit after the time skip.

Izanagi may be ridiculously over the top compared to the most of the rest of powers in Naruto but I wouldn't call it an asspull. It was clearly and smartly foreshadowed way before Danzo unleashed it.

Mushishi 05

This was really good. In particular, the parallels between the mushi problem at hand and human issues elevated the material even further. The ending managed to be both charming and quite funny. Though that epilogue seems to hint that despite his content façade, Ginko isn't completely at peace with his fate. Wonder if that will get explored down the road.
 
If that were true, Itachi and Shisui wouldn't be so awesome. Also, Madara could have been awesome, but they neutered him and ruined his character.

It was ruined when everything turned out to be related to the Otsutsuki clan, and then in the last arc of the series, they pull out even more Otsutsuki's we'd never had any inkling or mention or hints of just to condense it to some bullshit "You're his reincarnation" angle.

Horrible world building. Horrible writing.

If only Kishi has focused on Worldbuilding and developing his characters instead of focusing on the Sasuke retrieval bullshit. We don't even know much about the other Villages aside from learning about them a bit in the 5 Kage Summit arc. I would of enjoyed the series more if Kishi has delve more into characters like Lee, Guy, or even fucking Tenten like seriously he has always put her on the side doing nothing for her character. The Sasuke shit is one the biggest things that pissed me off about Naruto.

Naruto's best for me will always be the Lee vs Gara fight.
 
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