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Starting next week, my company is making us check in our phones
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snitches get stitches.
That's not a mentality of successful person. Focus your energy on being the best you can and let slackers do their thing. All about the long run.
CosmicQueso
Member
This could not be more wrong.
Daffy Duck
Member
You had to have contact numbers on file. A lot of people cottoned on to the fact they were fishing for numbers to catch people out as the personal record update sheets came out shortly after the ban came in.
Lightning Count
Member
Judging me based on a policy I openly said is only under consideration at this time. Also you've never met me in person or spoke to the people who work for me. Stay classy.
I experience this on most of my projects due to security. It never is a problem bc we could go and check them whenever. We also have desk numbers for emergencies and business related calls. It isnt like a giant SCIF which isolates you from everything.
Your situation is a reactionary one. My guess is production took a hit as a result cell phone issue
Why is it so important to you that you feel the need to report someone? The quality & quantity of your work output should lead to higher raises. Unless of course, he's still better at the job than you despite always being on the phone.
Well, you seem to want to treat adults like children... so there's that. I'd rather be judged by my work than if I use my phone or not.
Well, it's a common practice in jobs where sensitive information is involved, so i can't see this as draconic, but if you were allowed to have them and they take them away because some asshole goofed off, i undertand your rage.
Being something worth leaving? i dunno, does it pay poorly? cause otherwise you can live without your phone for a shift.
Being something worth leaving? i dunno, does it pay poorly? cause otherwise you can live without your phone for a shift.
Boulevard Bob
Banned
Uhhhh, do you not need your phone to do your job? What is this, 1993?
sometimes i game
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Why not just talk to the problem people instead of stripping everyone of their right to be contacted by their loved ones or check important info quickly? You know - manage the people who need to be managed?
It's 2015. Phones do lots of stuff, like remind people to take their medicine.
Marty Chinn
Member
This actually seems more bizarre to me. Everyone I know has their phone on them in meetings and they're all personal phones. In fact, I brought this issue up with my wife at lunch today and she said she'd look elsewhere if they did that. She's constantly in meetings so having her phone on her is important to her in case she's needed for an emergency. She also pointed out, on the odd day that she's not in the office, it would suck if they tried to contact her at work and she wasn't there in the case of emergency. Having a cell phone as the central point of contact would never change and always be on her.
Well you hire the person because you think they're capable of doing the job. Otherwise you wouldn't waste your time, resources and money on the person. So right up front you're trusting them to do their job properly and professionally. There are plenty of ways to check their ability and status without hovering over them or treating them like a child. A simple, does their task list get done in a reasonable time often works. Nobody checks up on me or babysits me to do my job.
Again, this assumes that the person is at their desk and not at someone else's desk or in a meeting which is quite normal for someone who works in an office. Tethering your point of contact to an immobile desk instead of using a mobile phone isn't a reasonable solution.
Just give them a phone number that isn't your cell phone number. Like a home phone, or shit buy a tracphone and use that as your work contact phone
balladofwindfishes
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Then talk to that employee and discipline them?
Either you're at a good company, in which case they already know who's slacking and who's a hard worker, or you're at a bad company and reporting them isn't going to make any difference.
Marty Chinn
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If they're not getting their work done, why not just fire them?
Wouldn't that be ideal? Just one person doing it...............
Come on man. Look around. People die on a regular basis because they can't stop with their phones. This isn't a "one person in the office" problem.
balladofwindfishes
Member
If an employee is meeting deadlines with quality work, why care what they're doing on their phone? Maybe texting their wife to chat helps them work or whatever. If they're not putting in quality work, then discuss it with them.
If nobody at your company is working effectively, the problem is with management.
Wow! I am not sure how to engage with this.
Then don't. Also, I have a prediction as to what's going to happen when this policy is implemented: Productivity will increase, employees will get proper notification of emergencies regardless and people will realize they made a big deal out of nothing.
OP, you don't need that phone in front of your face all day, and after a little while you'll realize it. Don't leave for this reason.
They have a similar ban in place where I work. Not everybody puts it away, though, including me.
Firstly, I don't like to 'give up' my device... it's a personal item that contains a lot of personal data. Additionally, I don't use my phone while I am working unless it's work related (in other words, if I am forced to put it away, I consider it a bit unfair).
Secondly, I would be willing to put it away as long as my employer puts in place some measures. My employer asked for us to put our phones in an easily accessible and insecure room.
When asked if lockers could be arranged and if they would be willing to pay for the device in case it gets lost, damaged or stolen, the answer was 'no'.
I'm not willing to leave my 900 phone behind in a room to which dozens of people have free access, while there is no guarantee (from the employer) that my device is safe and secure and will be replaced in case of damage/lost/stolen.
My employer knows I keep it and it's no problem, because I generally don't even use it while I am at work.
Firstly, I don't like to 'give up' my device... it's a personal item that contains a lot of personal data. Additionally, I don't use my phone while I am working unless it's work related (in other words, if I am forced to put it away, I consider it a bit unfair).
Secondly, I would be willing to put it away as long as my employer puts in place some measures. My employer asked for us to put our phones in an easily accessible and insecure room.
When asked if lockers could be arranged and if they would be willing to pay for the device in case it gets lost, damaged or stolen, the answer was 'no'.
I'm not willing to leave my 900 phone behind in a room to which dozens of people have free access, while there is no guarantee (from the employer) that my device is safe and secure and will be replaced in case of damage/lost/stolen.
My employer knows I keep it and it's no problem, because I generally don't even use it while I am at work.
Rest
All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
The owner tried that. He told people when it was appropriate to use their phones and when it was not, he tried being more lenient to help people get used to it. No one listened, so he gave the warning that if people were going to screw around on their phones they'd have to check them. People had months to comply and just wouldn't, so the phones were put in a drawer in the office.
The Lamonster
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Replace "phones" in this thread with "NeoGAF" 
Marty Chinn
Member
And you don't think someone getting fired for not doing their job will effectively send a message? It's pretty simple where I work, if you don't do your job, you get fired.
sometimes i game
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It's not about all day, it's about accessing it at all. I think you're oversimplifying it.
Sure, my family can call the office to discuss medical needs, until everyone starts to say why does he always get 30 calls a day, when a text before to coordinate was discreet.
Some people have apps where their daycare uploads pictures or activities of their children. You like to see it. It gives you peace of mind.
No one needs their cell phone to live, but there are legitimate reasons to want to access it once or twice during the day that a job shouldn't block.
I predict that morale will deteriorate, productivity will go down, and a not insignificant number of employees will find better companies to work for.
That isn't going to do shit. PEOPLE CAN'T PUT THEIR FUCKING PHONES DOWN. THEY DON'T CARE WHO YOU FIRED OR WHAT YOU'RE POLICIES ARE. IF THEY CAN ACCESS THEM THEY'RE GOING TO USE THEM INSTEAD OF WORK.
Believe me, I'm no fan of zero-tolerance policies in most regards. I get where the employers are coming from here though.
The Albatross
Member
No way, that seems fucked up. It's your property, I don't think they should be allowed to take it from you. Look somewhere else.
Megalosaro
Banned
For me, it is about boredom. Can't browse news sites while working, I'll become bored as shit.
I hate working but do I because I have to. I do my best all things considering.
I hate working but do I because I have to. I do my best all things considering.
Wuthering_Heights
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Exactly. Try not to mention that you're upset because you can't use company time to play on your phone,
The Albatross
Member
Yeah, proof that you can waste time on your employer-provided computer just as well as on your phone.
Saying the opposite of what I said? You sound like a fucking 6 year old.
I waited for months to get added to this forum, but I'm not so sure you guys are worth it.
Nah, he sounds like someone that understands most reasonable adults don't like being treated like children due to the actions of a few people. They'll just leave for a better situation.
balladofwindfishes
Member
I do work on my phone, so productivity would take a nose dive when I needed to do something that requires a mobile device. If you're a web developer or software engineer, being able to test on your own device is basically required.
Heck, I can't even log onto my PC without using a pin generated on my phone lol
So productivity would be 0 because I couldn't even log into my computer.
It has nothing to do with saying the opposite of what you said. It's my expectation based on management experience. You can't suddenly start treating your employees like children/criminals and expect they're going to work the same/harder for you.
Depends on your manager. I've had absolutely shitty management, borderline racist, that had an inversely proportional work load/quality of work to pay compensation ratio based solely on skin color. I quit right away of course.
Marty Chinn
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Of course it will do shit, people don't want to lose their job. Adults can be responsible people who get their shit done because it's their job knowing if they don't they could lose it. What kind of bizzaro world are you living in where everyone in the office is just looking at their phone instead of doing their work and have no fear of losing their job? I've not once ever been at a company where everyone was sticking their noses in their phones instead of doing their work and not getting their shit done.
yeah, i guess you misusing the tool provided to you for work is totaly ok and your employer would love to see you browse neogaf.
I mean, this is a pretty clear example of terrible management.
Everybody else is hiring from the same candidate pool and they're not all collapsing under the weight of not being able to get people to put down their phones. So either you're hiring badly, you're setting up your employees badly, you're motivating them badly, or you're planning work badly. Any way you slice it, you're doing your job badly.
where was that at?
water_wendi
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i wish everywhere i worked this was the case. Cell phones should not be at work unless its for work. Simple as that. Whether they use the phone for messaging friends, gaming, or taking care of everyday things like bills or doctors appointments, its not work so save it for a break or when you get off.
Marty Chinn
Member
So if my preschool tries to call to tell me my son had an allergic reaction to something he ate, I should wait until my break or when I get off before finding that out?
Buddha Beam
Banned
I wouldn't be willing to work any place that trusts me so little. I'd find a new job ASAP.
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