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Hands on the dashboard. PS4 30fps

Ishida

Banned
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Yudoken

Member
Any Questions
Member
(Today, 09:49 PM)

Yeah I have one.

Why were you expecting £1000 PC performance from a £350 console?

Maybe you shouldn't talk that much about this.
You can get 60fps and 1080p even on cheaper pc's (400 - 500).
Also console games look much worse, often they use lower settings than the lowest settings on pc (rendering far distances are most times way lower).
 
Building a PC is expensive and will get you what you would like to achieve. It is not a mass market solution because of the costs. But you are somehow surprised at this?

I'm as much of a framerate whore as the next guy but playing on my PS4 is fine once I've adjusted my eyes...and my expectations.
 

Hoje0308

Banned
Bloodborne is scratchy as hell on 30fps. Love the game but heck.... LOOK.

Don't exect PC standards but why does Jo public think £300 over 4 years as value. Equals £75 a year for PPP (piss poor performance)


Bloodborne is an awful example, as it's likely the frame pacing, not the frame rate that's causing you problems.
 

Anarion07

Member
Maybe you shouldn't talk that much about this.
You can get 60fps and 1080p even on cheaper pc's (400 - 500).
Also console games look much worse, often they use lower settings than the lowest settings on pc (rendering far distances are most times way lower).

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RoboPlato

I'd be in the dick
Bloodborne is scratchy as hell on 30fps. Love the game but heck.... LOOK.

Don't exect PC standards but why does Jo public think £300 over 4 years as value. Equals £75 a year for PPP (piss poor performance)
As much as I love and want 60fps to be standard, I think console gamers should really start calling out more games that struggle to hit 30 or have severe frame pacing issues. Games like Destiny and The Order that pretty much never drop feel so much better than standard console definition 30fps.
 
Maybe you shouldn't talk that much about this.
You can get 60fps and 1080p even on cheaper pc's (400 - 500).
Also console games look much worse, often they use lower settings than the lowest settings on pc (rendering far distances are most times way lower).

Oh really?

Well, you need at least a GTX 980 to play The Witcher 3 at max settings. That's your entire budget blown there.
 
REWIND AND ROLL YOU NECKS IN

is it OK to ask for manufactures to make something to last 4years technology time to cost £300 day one.

NO

OR YES

If you want less.
 

Tigress

Member
I mean...if frame rate is that much of a deal breaker for you, you should have built a PC.

Sorry?

Pretty much this. PC is for people who performance is the most important thing. Console is about compromise on performance for convenience.

Also, all the console makers have learned that it's just too risky to do the take a loss on the price of the hardware in hopes of making it up in licensing fees (or whatever money they got off of people making games on their hardware). The fact all have seemed to move on to not taking a loss says the old business model that did help consoles be better hardware wise even with not being able to be as expensive says that it's just not feasable. So more hit on performance for the convenience a console offers.

Who knows, with PCs supposedly getting easier to deal with (so I've been told anyways but that's by people who are very obviously motivated by wanting to see consoles go away) and consoles getting weaker for the money value, you might see consoles eventually dieing cause they can't make one that is a good enough compromise (good enough tech) for the price people would be willing to pay for a console.
 

kadotsu

Banned
Consoles are a compromise. The mainstream doesn't buy consoles at launch prices. They buy them at the middle to end of their lifecycles. They are the most acceptable purchase when you consider price, ease of use and library. If you care about graphics the PC market will be there for you to spend your way into performance.
People will do what they are familiar with. Some people buy consoles, some use two line breaks after each sentence.
 

Daingurse

Member
As much as I love and want 60fps to be standard, I think console gamers should really start calling out more games that struggle to hit 30 or have severe frame pacing issues. Games like Destiny and The Order that pretty much never drop feel so much better than standard console definition 30fps.

The Order felt really good for a 30fps game, think it had something going on because it felt smooooth. You're also right about having a consistent 33.33ms, it goes a long way.
 

Takuan

Member
I agree it isn't ideal and consoles are underpowered, but I've played enough Destiny and it's never been an issue. Adjusting isn't difficult.

Of course, Destiny in 60 FPS would be sublime.
 

Aceofspades

Banned
Haha, people needs to understand that 30-60 or even 120fps are more of a design decision rather than hardware limitation. Devs can dial back graphics in order to hit higer fps, simple concept.

NES, PS1, PS2,PS3, Xbox, 360 all ran some games at 60fps.

Even if we had PS4 with 10 times the amount of power to the current one, we will still get games running 30fps with PC counterparts running higher than that.
 
As much as I love GAF....

Sometimes I turn on my PS4 when the wife is out and kids asleep and play a game.

Like I did in in the 80's.

Good old fashioned fun.

30 fps is gank and you know it is. Cheapskates.
 

RulkezX

Member
Massive lol @ those trying to discuss this topic seriously. The OP hasn't put a coherent post in the thread yet.


Y/N - Have you consumed alcohol or drugs tonight OP?
 

slapnuts

Junior Member
Hi folks. Am booting up the PS4 after a month or 3 off line and..... Honestly 30fps is gank.

Love bloodborne and on NG+2 but after months off games and streaming TV with the better half.... 30fps is pants.

Totally adore the fact that consoles are sub £300 but HONESTLY. With such a low price bracket.... Were lucky to play such great titles at 30fps. Just.

But it's crap. Uncharted 4 30 fps confirmed. Don't give me life cycle improvement crap. Devs are pushing to the max.

It's a sad lament when tech exists which can demolish our expectations but will cost £100 more over 5 years yet we clamour for sub £300 pound consoles cos fuck you the man.

Makes me wonder over the steam machine... Yet more tosh or a shining beacon....

Oh well back to NG+2 and with luck the better half will have another wine.

X

Comments welcome....

Would the public destroy a PC console?

Would you buy one if supported by devs?

Just so you know, you are in a very small minority that feel this way, granted i understand what you mean but to most people, 30fp and 60fps is "pants' to all of them...as long as the gameplay is smooth.

I personally don't really care myself..besides sim racers and my sports games..everything else i don't care as long as the frames are stable.
 
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