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WSJ: Nintendo Begins Distributing Software Kit for NX (Console + Handheld units)
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Actually, they have, but there is only so much you can bring out as a single publisher who is also dealing with another platform (something NX is going to fix)
Cheeseman Battitude
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geordiemp
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I meant something like a large size VITA controller (mobile device) and a WiiU console (console) but tied together would fit that description...?
That is not a hybrid, is 2 devices but fits the description...
1st Course
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These early hardware rumors are pretty much always horse shit.
Orbis was supposed to equip 7979 level GPU with Steamroller CPU. Xbox 720 with dual GPU and 16 core CPU. Project Cafe "much more powerful" than PS3/X360.
Yeah, never again.
Orbis was supposed to equip 7979 level GPU with Steamroller CPU. Xbox 720 with dual GPU and 16 core CPU. Project Cafe "much more powerful" than PS3/X360.
Yeah, never again.
I probably phrased that terribly, but Nintendo has delayed Wii U games simply because its taken them quite a while to make 'HD' level assets. Sure, they've had 3DS development on the side, which hasn't helped... But 3rd party and 1st teams making PS4/XB1 games are huge.
Depends. They miss the traditional advertizing blitz, penis fencing, and the rising tide of media it causes but if they do at least a partially compatible portable it can change the ecosystem outlook. I think their new platform should give them experimentation ability, such as other compatible hardware (VR-based system etc.) or the ability to iterate hardware on much shorter cycles while maintaining compatibility.
Industry leading chips can mean a lot of things, so I'm not sure we should interpret it as a representation of higher end graphics.
Though, the mobile and console software kits being given for NX leads me to believe that the multiple form factors speculation may be on point.
Though, the mobile and console software kits being given for NX leads me to believe that the multiple form factors speculation may be on point.
Chû Totoro
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First dev kits are like 1-2 years before system launch. So NX 2017 confirmed?
Edit: again people are only talking about power and graphics... yeah sure next gen is going to be awesome with just same games with better resolutions and more effects. Of course HW is about power but not only. I hope Nintendo will still try new things like Gamepad or 3D even if it doesn't always get the reception they were hoping for.
Edit: again people are only talking about power and graphics... yeah sure next gen is going to be awesome with just same games with better resolutions and more effects. Of course HW is about power but not only. I hope Nintendo will still try new things like Gamepad or 3D even if it doesn't always get the reception they were hoping for.
Bitch Pudding
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Yeah, just imagine the endless possibilities of a controller with the abilities of a PS Vita which can be connected to a console as powerfull as a PS4! That's some innovative bullshit!
Seriously, Nintendo can do better than that.
I thought the WiiU was supposed to be powerful but Nintendo gutted it at the eleventh hour.
wild wild rice
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Gamepad compatibility would definitely be nice.
How much would that cost?
I don't think it's impossible, but Nintendo has always seemed a tad reluctant to do an outright TV-out handheld in the past, and with NX looking like it's going to be largely playing the same games on either device, there's even less reason to do that. It's not outside the realm of possibility, but it's doubtful.
PartTimeWarrior
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Ducttape a N64 to a Wii U
Fourth Storm
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Some kind of wearable? A cooler version of that Pokemon GO wrist band?
Don't get me wrong. It could very well be a controller/portable, but I would be very surprised if Nintendo essentially took the Wii U concept, threw a cheap ARM processor in the Gamepad for independent use, and called it an NX.
Bolivar687
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They downgraded the CPU from what's been said. No idea on how much
maniac-kun
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So its going to be a console handheld hyrid. Taking your game with you sounds great. I wonder if this means mainline Pokemon on the big screen + handheld when you are not home.
IlSignorCornetto
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"Additionally, the company apparently intends to include industry-leading chips in the NX devices following criticisms about the Wii Us power and the consoles inability to stack up against the competition"
i think that this is the most important paragraph of the Wall Street Journal article...
i think that this is the most important paragraph of the Wall Street Journal article...
Iwata said it's not going to be a hybrid and Kimishima/Miyamoto said that they're going to push forth with Iwata's vision.
John Kowalski
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meh, call me back in a couple of years when devs actually know what tech they're dealing with
Bots are better than you
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Wall Street Journal? As credible as it gets. While they do misinterpret some facts once in a while, the sources are legit.
Well ... the dev kits should really in the ballpark of the power Nintendo targets with the consumer version ... anything else would really be pointless.
So i guess devs actually do get quite an understanding of what they are going to have at their hands.
Vital Tundra
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This makes me very excited.
Oh, as I read Rogue Squadron I got waaaay too excited. Sorry!
I wish Mario Maker will be already pre-installed on the next consoles, both handheld and stationary versions.
maniac-kun
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Oh okay so why is the Devkit for both?
Can't wait to see what ports and shovelware third parties put on the NX for launch ;_; I just hope the year or so that they'll give 3rd parties to make games is long enough for more than JUST shovelware and ports.
Seriously nintendo, don't let third parties treat you like that anymore. "Well, our trash didn't sell, so, we're done"
Just make it easy to port games to you, offer incentives to do so (reduced costs, license your IPs in exchange for AAA game ports, etc). If nintendo can get all the big AAA games *AND* 3rd party developed nintendo IP, it has a chance at competing, I think.
Really looking forward to see what this becomes.
Seriously nintendo, don't let third parties treat you like that anymore. "Well, our trash didn't sell, so, we're done"
Just make it easy to port games to you, offer incentives to do so (reduced costs, license your IPs in exchange for AAA game ports, etc). If nintendo can get all the big AAA games *AND* 3rd party developed nintendo IP, it has a chance at competing, I think.
Really looking forward to see what this becomes.
Yeah I don't know how this is going to happen. I'm guessing first year or so would be ports of games like Mario Kart 8 and Sm4sh since those games are pretty damn solid as is.
I'm thinking the handheld won't be TV-out, it will just connect to the NX home console to do optional things like Wii U backwards compatibility and here's the dungeon map on your controller of the game you're playing on your tv kind of stuff.
papercan55
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Holiday 2016 sounds about right in-line with zelda wiiu, retro tile and pikmin 4.
They can even have a version of starfox running much better on the nx due to the problems with running the game on both screens using wii u.
twilight princess hd being released on the wii u next year because the zelda U won't be out until christmas and will be on both nx+wii u...
they have already pretty much said yes, see above
I very much doubt what they will have will be cutting edge considering even Sony and Microsoft didn't have cutting edge consoles. Can you imagine if they tried to match the specs of the newest iPhone and Galaxy S6 for their handheld? No way they could afford that since console profitability is one of their reasons for making so much money and having an easier time funding internal software development.
Curious to see though. If kits are going out, it means they're basically a year or two from launch or reveal. Wii U is pretty much dead at this point, so the quicker they can get it out, the better especially since third party on 3ds is all but dead and their first party has slowed down as well.
Curious to see though. If kits are going out, it means they're basically a year or two from launch or reveal. Wii U is pretty much dead at this point, so the quicker they can get it out, the better especially since third party on 3ds is all but dead and their first party has slowed down as well.
Because the OS and Tools are the same, but the specs are different. Thinks iOS but for Game Development.
I think the new Developer Portal makes me the most excited.
Because, as Iwata said, the NX platform isn't going to be a specific device but rather the OS and concept around it. Multiple form factors of different specs but same OS/similar architecture. Easy to share assets across all form factors for easier development and ability to put a game on both, scaled back of course.
He compared it to how the iPad and iPhone are. Same OS, similar features, different specs, some exclusive games.
First times it gets leaked to the press that devkits are with third party developers.Chû Totoro;181881894 said:
Square wouldn't announce their NX game without having devkits. I'm quite sure their close japanese partners (square/capcom/level5 and bandai) have devkits for a while now. First devkit rumours on gaf were around april I believe, certainly before E3.
2016 believe
Well one of the recent patents suggested that a game could be played at different settings depending on different devices.
So NX could Easily be a scalable Platform. When on Console all the bells and whistles. When handheld appropriate reductions
The WSJ is much more credible than other places we've gotten rumors from in the past.
I would expect the HW to at least match the PS4/XB1 given what's stated in the article about industry-leading chips. People were halfway convinced that the NX console might be a small spec bump over the Wii U.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
How do people get hyped for Nintendo hardware anymore after like 11-12 years of misery?
I guess maybe theres the hope of "this time... for sure!!", but then I can't imagine ever early adopting again after ambassador programs and "the actual model we were supposed to make" releases.
They're going to have to knock it out of the park this time if they're serious about staying in hardware.
I guess maybe theres the hope of "this time... for sure!!", but then I can't imagine ever early adopting again after ambassador programs and "the actual model we were supposed to make" releases.
They're going to have to knock it out of the park this time if they're serious about staying in hardware.
Western third parties are not central to Nintendo's success. They should make a console that makes their games look good and gets the Japanese third parties still making traditional software on board. Whether Call of Duty is released on it or not will not affect sales by much.
Mysterious
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It doesn't matter what Kimishima/Miyamoto said. Let's say Iwata made the console not a hybrid. It's been in development for a few years now. It'll very likely launch in November 2016. Even if Kimishima or Miyamoto wanted it to be a hybrid, and it wasn't designed to be a hybrid, it cannot be a hybrid because development at this point would be too far along. If they change it at this point, they have to (1) delay platform launch; (2) delay devkit rollout, which will piss third parties off; and (3) rush the platform launch, and have few software available in that window. They want none of the three.
Basically, what I'm saying is these decisions would have been made in late 2013/early 2014 and solidified in late 2014/early 2015, so it's too late to deviate even if current management wanted to.
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