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Welcome to Night Vale [Mafia] |OT| The Dog Park will not harm you

RetroMG

Member
Hey Retro, can you confirm if Darklighter actually responded to your pm about the roles? Before D1 started didn't you say there were like... 2 or 3 people who hadn't responded? Was he one of them?

Every player who has signed up for the game has either posted in the thread or checked in via PM.

If we don't hear from Darklighter soon, I will PM him.
 

UltraJay

Member
What's your opinion on what we should do at day's end? Are you in the lynch someone for sure camp? Only lynch if someone is scummy? I'm not sure your play style, I want to know it.

I think we should lynch. I haven't been if a GAFia game before but I read Animal Crossing (THAT TOM NOOK REVEAL!) and people were beating themselves up the second day for going No Evict on the first.
 
I was desperate for SOMETHING to go on. Anything. Was about to PM prod him myself but... he would have responded to the PMs, right Retro?

Maybe we should just lynch them and hedge our bets? I mean... what are the chances they are the doctor or a member of the mayor's secret police?
Pretty good, I'd say.

We still have 3 days lets not rush on the inactive on Day 1 people probably haven't got used to checking gaf every single time to answer. If we do need a replacement Retro will take care of it. So no dont vote for someone who cant defend themselves as it wont give any info.
 

Coppanuva

Member
Every player who has signed up for the game has either posted in the thread or checked in via PM.

If we don't hear from Darklighter soon, I will PM him.

Ok cool, wasn't sure (also I might have been remembering wrong, looks like it was Palmer's game in the werewolf thread I might've been remembering, oops).
 

Sorian

Banned
I think for now the RNG vote will be the best for me, up until the second day. Not particularly a fan of bandwagoning.

Are you saying second day as in today or second day as in the second game day which will be like a week from now?

I was desperate for SOMETHING to go on. Anything. Was about to PM prod him myself but... he would have responded to the PMs, right Retro?

Maybe we should just lynch them and hedge our bets? I mean... what are the chances they are the doctor or a member of the mayor's secret police?
Pretty good, I'd say.

Never ever ever PM another player in your game unless your role allows you to do something weird like that (and I highly doubt it does, usually communication like that goes through the gamerunner, not direct). As far as lynching him, Mike sums it up for me as well:

We still have 3 days lets not rush on the inactive on Day 1 people probably haven't got used to checking gaf every single time to answer. If we do need a replacement Retro will take care of it. So no dont vote for someone who cant defend themselves as it wont give any info.
 
Just got back from work and it doesn't look like much has happened. It seems like most of the action is gonna happen during mornings and afternoons for me. I don't think I'll be able to stay up for the voting craziness at the end of the day phase though.

I'll just pop my cherry with a little bandwagoning:

Vote: unmasked ferret

Not seeing anything anything strange about their posts however. Not that there really would be anything at this stage.

I was your first!?

As with Sorian, thanks for giving a reason even of it might be a lie.

And like, speaking of fair-it, I wanna get a speech from Unmasked Ferret! He's in the lead, so that must be, like, totally hype!

Oh god that pun.

As Night Vales most trusted ferret person, I am glad to accept all these votes for uh... What is this for? New radio station intern? Oh...

Fluff aside thus isn't a big deal, four votes at this stage for the most part probably won't stick. On top of that I understand why most of them are there.

First Boo Boo used the wheel (I still love you both)

Then Squidy, uh, actually I don't completely understand Squidy. He said it was because of the pic the Boo Boo posted so let's go with that.

Sorian did his Sorian thing and bounced his vote for the sake of conversation.

And Jay was just bandwagoning. He's new, not much else is happening, it's understandable.
 

RetroMG

Member
Ok cool, wasn't sure (also I might have been remembering wrong, looks like it was Palmer's game in the werewolf thread I might've been remembering, oops).

I did say that the few people who hadn't checked in had posted in the thread, except for Boo Boo'n, who responded later that day, I believe.

But yeah, everyone has checked in.
 
I believe this week's 'prize' is to be shoved into the sand wastes to face unimaginable horrors before being devoured by coyotes.

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So adorable :)
 

Sorian

Banned
I believe this week's 'prize' is to be shoved into the sand wastes to face unimaginable horrors before being devoured by coyotes.

RIP

I was your first!?

As with Sorian, thanks for giving a reason even of it might be a lie.



Oh god that pun.

As Night Vales most trusted ferret person, I am glad to accept all these votes for uh... What is this for? New radio station intern? Oh...

Fluff aside thus isn't a big deal, four votes at this stage for the most part probably won't stick. On top of that I understand why most of them are there.

First Boo Boo used the wheel (I still love you both)

Then Squidy, uh, actually I don't completely understand Squidy. He said it was because of the pic the Boo Boo posted so let's go with that.

Sorian did his Sorian thing and bounced his vote for the sake of conversation.

And Jay was just bandwagoning. He's new, not much else is happening, it's understandable.

Ferret is too cool for school. This feels like trying to pressure GreatCharleston but with a slightly higher post count. I'll abort the bandwagon for now since I finally see something I don't like.

I think for now the RNG vote will be the best for me, up until the second day. Not particularly a fan of bandwagoning.

Are you saying second day as in today or second day as in the second game day which will be like a week from now?

Waiting for a response but I'm pretty sure he means the bolded and this doesn't fly with me. Letting RNG cast your final vote for this day phase? That's useless for town, that could even greatly hurt town and I'd rather someone make a misguided vote of No Lynch instead of just rolling the dice and letting it fly.

VOTE: Boo Boo'n
 

UltraJay

Member
Crap I pretty much remember PMs being against the rules... either way, that lynching comment was mostly a joke based on the spoiler text. I'mma be super serious from now on since everyone pounced on that part. I didn't even change my vote in that case. Only joking since Sorian said the replaced player in an earlier game turned out to be scum. Of course it's a bad idea. An absent player can't even role claim to protect themselves and we'd be lynching completely blind.

I'm more than likely to change my vote, ferret. Just want some nice discussion.

Anyways, I'm off to bed. Please don't post TOO much as I'd like to catch up in a reasonable amount of time. Maybe the old lady who secretly lives in my house can paraphrase everything in the morning as I'm sure she loves browsing when I'm asleep. As well as watching me sleep. But mostly the Internet.

IF YOU CAN READ THIS JUST LEAVE EVERYTHING IN A NOTEPAD WINDOW FOR WHEN I WAKE UP.
 

Fireblend

Banned
How seriously is everyone taking Cecil's broadcasts at this point? Couldn't Carlos be a third neutral party?

They're lifted pretty much word for word from podcast episodes. I expect a Carlos role to be in the game because he's a major character (also I have no doubt he'd be NV-aligned), but other than that I have no reason to doubt Retro's only posting these so that people who are unfamiliar with the NV lore aren't left at a total loss when it comes to flavor, rather than being full-fledged hints.
 

Trigger

Member
Ah, I see. I'll try not to read too into them then. I figured speculation about roles is the only other avenue of discussion right now. No one has said anything particularly scummy......yet!
 

Razmos

Member
The Man in the Tanner Jacket with a briefcase full of votes

I had to google what a Tanner was. I'm glad we don't have any of those in the games.
 

Sorian

Banned
How seriously is everyone taking Cecil's broadcasts at this point? Couldn't Carlos be a third neutral party?

I'd be surprised if Carlos wasn't straight NV-aligned.

And I do think important stuff will come from Retro's broadcasts but so far these are word for word from the podcast, I'm thinking the more important broadcasts that have to do with our game will be more tailored for us specifically. Personally, I think it's too early for role hinting broadcasts, I wouldn't really look into them much until day 2 and beyond, that's just me though. Seems like Retro is setting the mood today instead.
 

Sorian

Banned
Waiting for a response but I'm pretty sure he means the bolded and this doesn't fly with me. Letting RNG cast your final vote for this day phase? That's useless for town, that could even greatly hurt town and I'd rather someone make a misguided vote of No Lynch instead of just rolling the dice and letting it fly.

VOTE: Boo Boo'n

Went back and re-read my post, I bolded the wrong half of my question D: So I guess read this the same way but sub in non-bolded for bolded :p

Ah, darn I misread the day counter. :x

With that being said though, maybe my assumption was wrong.
 

Coppanuva

Member
Ah, I see. I'll try not to read too into them then. I figured speculation about roles is the only other avenue of discussion right now. No one has said anything particularly scummy......yet!

I'm not quite sure I agree with this. Any speculation on roles would pretty much be a list of named characters in NightVale and what Mafia role it might fit. There's no information out there to help us guess what roles might be in play (since no night actions occurred), so it would literally just be a giant list of things that could or could not be in the game which is basically any role at all.

I also think even creating that list is likely to be more helpful to scum trying to fakeclaim later on than it is for town. I don't want to give them more to work with than they already have. Sure Retro is throwing out character names, and we could guess alignment on them, but I don't think we should guess anything else personally.
 

Coppanuva

Member
Then Squidy, uh, actually I don't completely understand Squidy. He said it was because of the pic the Boo Boo posted so let's go with that.

Any particular reason you never questioned him on that? Looking at your posts you reacted to Boo putting a vote on you, and made a joke when Sorian put his on you but nothing to Squidy. In fact really, all your reactions have been kinda muted and just "Meh whatever" to everything.

If you aren't sure why Squidy put a vote on you, why not respond to his?
 

Sorian

Banned
Any particular reason you never questioned him on that? Looking at your posts you reacted to Boo putting a vote on you, and made a joke when Sorian put his on you but nothing to Squidy. In fact really, all your reactions have been kinda muted and just "Meh whatever" to everything.

If you aren't sure why Squidy put a vote on you, why not respond to his?

This is actually a fair question and I second it. Any reason you didn't respond to squidy, Ferret? You went out of your way to respond onto my own vote and Jay's vote, I did notice at the time that you didn't bother with squidy but now it's weird in retrospect.
 

Razmos

Member
I find it very hard to vote for a person with a Paranatural avatar.

unless I have very good reason, carry on folks
 

Trigger

Member
I'm not quite sure I agree with this. Any speculation on roles would pretty much be a list of named characters in NightVale and what Mafia role it might fit. There's no information out there to help us guess what roles might be in play (since no night actions occurred), so it would literally just be a giant list of things that could or could not be in the game which is basically any role at all.

I also think even creating that list is likely to be more helpful to scum trying to fakeclaim later on than it is for town. I don't want to give them more to work with than they already have. Sure Retro is throwing out character names, and we could guess alignment on them, but I don't think we should guess anything else personally.

Ahh, I didn't really think of that. First day phase is pretty rough for town.
 

Coppanuva

Member
Fuuuuuck Coppa. Rod Serling avatar for this game is genius.

Oh hey someone recognized it yes! You should go over the pre-game posts, I pretty much just spammed Twilight Zone quotes in it (it fits WAY too well here).

This is actually a fair question and I second it. Any reason you didn't respond to squidy, Ferret? You went out of your way to respond onto my own vote and Jay's vote, I did notice at the time that you didn't bother with squidy but now it's weird in retrospect.

Yeah, Squidy is the ONLY person who he didn't respond to directly, which is definitely an outlier.

Also, it might be worth bringing up here: Roughly how many Mafia do we expect? I'm guessing maybe 5 or 6 (6 on the high side). I'm wary of what we should consider possible tipping points for turbos, and I'd like to stay well away from them, especially early in the day phases. I know we're not quite there yet, but until people start replying and playing, I think it's a conversation worth having.
 
I believe this week's 'prize' is to be shoved into the sand wastes to face unimaginable horrors before being devoured by coyotes.

Oh-em-gee, is that what we're voting on?! Groady! I like, hate sand! It's course, rough, and like, totally irritating. And it gets like, everywhere!

In that case, I'm like, keeping my vote on Darklighter. I've never even met him so like, I won't feel bad if I totes contribute to his horrible and untimely demise.
 

Sorian

Banned
Also, it might be worth bringing up here: Roughly how many Mafia do we expect? I'm guessing maybe 5 or 6 (6 on the high side). I'm wary of what we should consider possible tipping points for turbos, and I'd like to stay well away from them, especially early in the day phases. I know we're not quite there yet, but until people start replying and playing, I think it's a conversation worth having.

I'm not going to lie. I'm having a hard time thinking of a large amount of role names for the bad team. I assume between 4-6 scum with this game size? I can only think of like 2-3 Desert Bluff/StrexCorp people.

Lower end if there are a lot of neutrals, higher end if there are few neutrals. Maybe a lost partner or two as well since that seems to be a thing in bigger gafia games.
 

Fireblend

Banned
I know it's because I died during N1 in the only other "main season game" I played, but man, 6 mafia in a single game sounds like total madness. Then I remember there's 20+ of us.
 

squidyj

Member
Any reason you paired Razmos and Trigger?



Maybe this response is jokey but something about it seems off, I'm not sure.

it's not based on their interactions, just two separate reads.

I'll add that in the circle of Ultra Jay, Boo Boo'n and Sorian, there is also a mafia.
 

Sorian

Banned
it's not based on their interactions, just two separate reads.

I'll add that in the circle of Ultra Jay, Boo Boo'n and Sorian, there is also a mafia.

Help me understand your reads here then. What made you read scum from razmos, what made you read scum from Trigger?

It seems that last circle there is an interaction, what makes you think one of those 3 names is scum (while alluding that the other two wouldn't be?)
 
Any particular reason you never questioned him on that? Looking at your posts you reacted to Boo putting a vote on you, and made a joke when Sorian put his on you but nothing to Squidy. In fact really, all your reactions have been kinda muted and just "Meh whatever" to everything.

If you aren't sure why Squidy put a vote on you, why not respond to his?

I actually meant to respond to Squidy at the same time as Boo Boo, but I was in class and didn't have a lot of time to make an awkward multiquote mobile post. By the time I had a moment to bring Squidy up I had kinda forgotten about it.
 

Fireblend

Banned
it's not based on their interactions, just two separate reads.

I'll add that in the circle of Ultra Jay, Boo Boo'n and Sorian, there is also a mafia.

Such next level reads!

Seriously though, glad that things may be finally heating up. I'm looking forward to you explaining those guesses.
 

squidyj

Member
Help me understand your reads here then. What made you read scum from razmos, what made you read scum from Trigger?

It seems that last circle there is an interaction, what makes you think one of those 3 names is scum (while alluding that the other two wouldn't be?)

I held concert with the Wheel of Fate, we spoke through the night in long-forgotten tongues and it revealed unto me it's mysteries. Turns out it's just a lonely old wheel, everybody comes by for a name, but nobody stays to chat. Which is a shame because the wheel of fate knows a lot about life and gave me some really good advice. It makes a very nice cup of chamomile tea as well.

I don't want to talk about the how and why of these reads at this time, I think I'll talk about it before I go to bed tonight. until then, murmur nervously amongst yourselves please.
 

Sorian

Banned
I held concert with the Wheel of Fate, we spoke through the night in long-forgotten tongues and it revealed unto me it's mysteries. Turns out it's just a lonely old wheel, everybody comes by for a name, but nobody stays to chat. Which is a shame because the wheel of fate knows a lot about life and gave me some really good advice. It makes a very nice cup of chamomile tea as well.

I don't want to talk about the how and why of these reads at this time, I think I'll talk about it before I go to bed tonight. until then, murmur nervously amongst yourselves please.

I'm holding you to this. I know you were totally Sick Reads™ Pro Plus in Archer but then I played with you in NX and you were kind of lackluster so you have to work back up the goodwill a bit before I listen on your word.
 

squidyj

Member
I'm holding you to this. I know you were totally Sick Reads™ Pro Plus in Archer but then I played with you in NX and you were kind of lackluster so you have to work back up the goodwill a bit before I listen on your word.

Yeah it turns out I do a lot better when I actually bother to read people's posts. :p
 
I held concert with the Wheel of Fate, we spoke through the night in long-forgotten tongues and it revealed unto me it's mysteries. Turns out it's just a lonely old wheel, everybody comes by for a name, but nobody stays to chat. Which is a shame because the wheel of fate knows a lot about life and gave me some really good advice. It makes a very nice cup of chamomile tea as well.

I don't want to talk about the how and why of these reads at this time, I think I'll talk about it before I go to bed tonight. until then, murmur nervously amongst yourselves please.

I don't see the benefit in withholding this information.

Also, is there a particular reason Ferret is voteleader? It seems to me like it just kind of happened?
 

Sorian

Banned
Yeah it turns out I do a lot better when I actually bother to read people's posts. :p

Oh, so you are the anti-Darryl? :D

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I'm keeping my vote on Boo Boo'N for now. Ferret stayed as cool as ice and it's still not an avenue I can really attack. I still don't like Boo holding onto his RNG vote and acting like that's ok. I also get the sense that Trigger is playing the "act new" card to keep our guards lowered and it's all a sweet act, maybe I'm wrong but that's gut. I'll also mention gryvan in this post who only showed up to throw down a wheel vote (on me, which I find highly suspect since I happen to know him outside of the mafia community) and since then has been MIA.

Somewhere Swamped is yelling at me for picking on newbies.
 

Coppanuva

Member
I held concert with the Wheel of Fate, we spoke through the night in long-forgotten tongues and it revealed unto me it's mysteries. Turns out it's just a lonely old wheel, everybody comes by for a name, but nobody stays to chat. Which is a shame because the wheel of fate knows a lot about life and gave me some really good advice. It makes a very nice cup of chamomile tea as well.

I don't want to talk about the how and why of these reads at this time, I think I'll talk about it before I go to bed tonight. until then, murmur nervously amongst yourselves please.

I don't personally see the benefit in waiting longer, but I trust you have your reasons. I am worried that a lot of people are going to hold off saying anything until you talk though.

I still want Seath to come reply and answer my question about his vote. I know it's been early and it's hard to contribute in D1, but he could at least answer my questions about his voting philosophy here.
 

Sorian

Banned
I don't see the benefit in withholding this information.

Also, is there a particular reason Ferret is voteleader? It seems to me like it just kind of happened?

There were two random votes on him for no real reason, I wanted to "bandwagon" someone and the two choices were him or Scrafty who both had two votes at the time (Fireblend did too but I was one of the two votes so I couldn't really re-apply for a third vote). I chose Ferret since I know nothing about his game style and I know Scrafty plenty. Someone else followed my lead. I switched away because Ferret handles pressure pretty well and I saw something else I found scummy/anti-town that I wanted to vote against. Someone noted that Ferret didn't acknowledge Squidy's vote even though he went out of his way to acknowledge everyone else's vote. I thought it was a good question so I seconded it but didn't change my vote back to him. Someone else came along and applied another pressure vote for him to answer the question. He has now answered the question but everyone with a vote on him has not posted yet since then, except for Squidy I believe who is still just holding his vote there instead of switching it to someone he says he finds scummy when he has five names and 3 scum amongst them (according to him).

And that's the summary there.
 
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