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Final Fantasy VII Remake is a multi-part series
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Darkangel
Member
Remember how Square would only show the Final Fantasy XIII/Versus trailers in closed megatheatres? What the fuck was up with that.
then nobody should have cared for this remake, by that logic.
Primethius
Banned
Vire
Member
Ni No Kuni? Lot's of HD towns and all that shit.
Dr. Buni
Member
This might ruin the game, but it also might not. Point is: It's too early to complain about a game solely because it will be episodic.
Should be removed from the game altogether, given how tasteless and not funny it is.
Me neither. Fuck waiting.
How many of these large jrpgs are in full high quality models, voice acted, with a shitton of detailed locations and freedom, mini games, big team of characters and all this packed with 50/60+ hours of gameplay (more if you want to be a completionist). Xenoblade hasp retty locales but it doesn't have nearly as much detail as FF7 if FF7 had to be made at the same time with the same standards. Same for persona, last story, ni no kuni, zestiria etc....
Hell there hasn't been a lot of modern AAA jrpgs with big productions apart from Xenoblade just because of how expensive they are and how niche the genre has gotten on the big market. The genre has been struggling like hell for years now for big consoles, even in japan.
I'm not going to defend XIII in any form, i loath that entry. Although I wouldn't say content wise it would replace the entirety of FVII, and mostly that was it's problem, a lot of it felt sterilized.
To be precise: I'm not taking the episodic thing as a good or bad news. There are obvious worries, some I agree with, some not. There's a whoooole lot of hyperbole being thrown around that completely devalues any discussion about it. I'm just saying that, considering the brand, it only makes sense and, for me at least, there was no other way for it business way for a company like square-enix that is gonna be pouring money into something that, even if it was done perfectly, would probably not give back that much in profits due to how expensive and extremely risky it would've been.
Vincent Alexander
Member
Glad you came in to set them all straight.
entitled? lmao
How is any of this reaction indicative of entitlement? They're remaking a complete game to be sold in episodes.
Duckroll's Hobbit comparison is perfect.
LordOcidax
Member
Agree
And they're like, Tetsuya's in charge! Damn right, Tetsuya's in charge.
It's not just the time, but the money need to make it.
fengshuifever
Member
These quoted posts are going to disappear like the sands of time with people savaging the Resi guy.
But I agree, it seems to be a pretty core problem with a lot of companies (and not even just Eastern studios, a lot of Western studios are learning as well) where coyness doesn't breed hype any more.
I think there's a fine line between been transparent and being spoiler-y, especially something like this but I think it can be done and it HAS been done.
Really, the hashtag we should be running is #LetsFundAMarketingCourseForSE .
I'm kidding
Vire
Member
God I hope not, politically correct brigade about to ruin all fun.
I would be seriously pissed if that's removed.
somecrazymember
Banned
lol, would be fucked up if every item in the game is buyable with gils or real money. Stupid people would pay 1000 dollars for 100.000 gils. lol
NYR
Member
Give me a break. Get off your high horse.
So do that?
Sorry I posted in the wrong FFVII thread:
At first I thought wow, the impact of finishing Midgar and getting to the world map for the first time is going to be greatly diminished if the first episode ends there. Now I'm wondering if there will even be a world map and will the game just be linear.
To me the different levels of abstraction (ie: battle, town/dungeon, and world map) are what defines JRPGs of that era (the only era I'm really familiar with TBH) and not having the sense of scale and freedom you get from a world map would really kill my interest in this game.
At first I thought wow, the impact of finishing Midgar and getting to the world map for the first time is going to be greatly diminished if the first episode ends there. Now I'm wondering if there will even be a world map and will the game just be linear.
To me the different levels of abstraction (ie: battle, town/dungeon, and world map) are what defines JRPGs of that era (the only era I'm really familiar with TBH) and not having the sense of scale and freedom you get from a world map would really kill my interest in this game.
Celcius
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timetokill
Banned
Their PS1 success sent Square WAY up their own ass. They were high as shit on themselves for a long time.
It's also about the budget. If it will cost becomes equivalent to multiple full length games, then maybe they should split it up. If they are pouring that much into each game to faithfully remake their premier lauded entry in their flagship series, then each act of FF7 is basically being given the budget of a full new game.
well yeah, pretty much.
the clamouring never made any sense considering the output but here we are...
ShooterMcGavin
Member
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
those two games were so fucking long, never finished them but one day maybe we'll get BC for them and then it's on again.
KenPokesBarbie
Banned
Solid post which I agree with.
I was waiting for that fucking word to come up. It's funny how it comes up everytime we call bullshit for what it is.
Ploid 3.0
Member
Try this instead.
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Looking at that booklet, disks, and cover brings back some awesome memories. Especially the book.
Ni No Kuni ?
And 2 is coming!Now that's something to look forward to.
Oh good call. My Level5 hatred blocked it out. Lol.
Suzushiiro
Banned
When I say "the only way it could have happened at all," I mostly meant "the only way the suits at Squeenix could have financially justified green-lighting it." Yeah, maybe they could have made the remake most people in this thread wanted for $60 and made a profit off if it, but considering that every AAA tentpole JRPG release they've done in the past decade has gone through development hell of one variety or another, I wouldn't bet on it.
Aceshighhhh
Member
I can't see this being a design choice.. Maybe SE can't manage to wait the entire development time this could potentially take?
Yeah they really do deliver.
I mean I can understand why this announcement would cause controversy, but there are people here acting like somebody just killed their child, it's sad.
Episodic? I'm guessing this means there's going to be a lot less room for exploration. Which kinda sucks, but I honestly I'm not annoyed by this. Never really wanted a remake all that much, and an episodic way of playing means I can take my time with it. So whatever.
But my god is it hilarious that they kept it a secret for this long. Squeenix the undisputed king of trolling their fanbase.
But my god is it hilarious that they kept it a secret for this long. Squeenix the undisputed king of trolling their fanbase.
One thing that ensures they have to really do well with the first episode and give good content and a good content to dollar ratio is that this is a remake in episodic form. Normally episodes could end on a cliffhanger or something to hook you into buying more. We all know what happens in FFVII. So, if the content isn't good, people just won't buy it.
I really wanted to be as blindly optmistic as some folks here. Really, I do. I want to believe they're following this format not so they can streamline and sell a "best moments of FF7" kind of deal, but to actually be able to cover every single bit of content from the original. I want to believe character progress will carry over throughout the episodes and it won't be as limiting as it sounds. I want to believe there'll be a huge world to explore between dungeons and cities.
Most importantly, I want to believe there'll be a "Complete Edition" with the episodes compilled as a single game, without "to be continued"s or anything that'd suggest it was ever an episodic endeavor, and you can just play it as a single conhesive experience like the original. That'd be perfect and worth the trade off.
I sadly don't believe this is going to happen. Prove me wrong, Square.
Most importantly, I want to believe there'll be a "Complete Edition" with the episodes compilled as a single game, without "to be continued"s or anything that'd suggest it was ever an episodic endeavor, and you can just play it as a single conhesive experience like the original. That'd be perfect and worth the trade off.
I sadly don't believe this is going to happen. Prove me wrong, Square.
Rabid Dwarf 76
Member
Is this a joke? I swear I've seen this exact same post before but the game and company were different. Is there something I'm missing?
What? That shit was done from 2004 to like 2010. It had nothing to do with the PS1 era.
there has to be 7 parts. It is in the title and this is Square. You'll be lucky to hit the Chocobo Ranch in the first part.
Vincent Alexander
Member
Same. I can't watch a season of a show until it is finished so I can plow through, and same will hold true with this. I'll wait for it all to be out.
the_sun_king
Member
It's a meme at this point.
Forearm Star
Member
We all wanted it.. And this is the price
Primethius
Banned
No, it isn't. The original game is massive. The episodic nature of this indicates that either a full game would have cuts in content or would take an extremely long time to come out.
People have some right to be upset and there are legitimate concerns (overworld) but a vast amount of this thread is an utter joke.
Xamtheking
Member
Ah, juniors