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If Chapter 51 was completed, would MGS5 be your GOTY?

CHC

Member
Yes as many others have said the game has a multitude of problems. The story (or lack thereof) was just horrible, truly, and adding another chapter couldn't fix that. Just such a half baked and disappointing game.
 

WaterAstro

Member
I was bored of the game before I even got to finish that whatever mission where it supposed to get good.

Gameplay is just too repetitive.
 

samuelfortner

Neo Member
No, as much as I wanted this to be my favorite Metal Gear, I think they over corrected there mistakes from 4 and did not put enough..well...plot. Not enough cut scenes and to many audio tapes. The audio tapes are fine for extra side stuff but when I get most of the plot from it
the ending zero tapes
then its just too much
 

SlickVic

Member
This reminds me of Mass Effect 3, how people latch on to the ending sucking being the big problem.

The game was the big problem, fam.

If you say so. Story aside, still easily one of the best playing games of 2015 for me and definitely the best playing Metal Gear IMO.
 

striferser

Huge Nickleback Fan
I was just thinking about this while watching a couple GOTY lists, most don't have MGS5 winning but almost all of them have it in

For those of you that still consider MGS5 your GOTY, why doesn't the fact the game is incomplete bother you?

Oh, and #FucKonami

Gameplay is ace, and i have a lot more fun playing it than any other games i've play this year. So yeah, still GOTY for me
 

joshcam19

Member
I thought it wrapped up the Metal Gear/MGS story very well. I still don't get all the complaints. It or Bloodborne are my GOTY for 2015.
 

silva1991

Member
No, incomplete wasn't it's only problem. the game isn't story driven/focused and that is much bigger problem for me. if MGS4 was released this year it would have been my GOTY over Bloodborne personally.
 

Bio

Member
Nah, not enough cutscenes and shit to satisfy my MGS fan lust to bring it up over things like Witcher 3 and Bloodborne
 
After watching what we could have ..i regret that we couldn't have this finale it was certainly a nice way to end the game on that note rather than the mission 46.

But i don't think it would have changed my perception of the game really. i have a great time with it. BUt in a year with bloodborne , witcher 3 and so many contestant , i think MGSV still being in my TOP 5 is testament enough of how strong the game was on his own.
 
No but it would move up the list. The game needed more boss fight like all the MGS in the past. When I heard MGS4 was open world, I envisioned a sniper battle like the end one but on a even bigger scale that would last for hours. The Quiet one was good but I though it could have been way better with a much bigger area. I thought there would be a fight similar to the fear in a huge jungle environment in Africa. Man so many misses opportunities boss wise.
 

IvanJ

Banned
I still haven't finished it (currently at ch.17), but my answer is no, it will not change my opinion of the game because I skip all cutscenes, I am not interested in the story at all. What I saw in the first couple of cutscenes was enough to conclude I don't want to waste any more time watching them.

I am enjoying the gameplay a lot, however. Love the open world, freedom to tackle missions and sideops in a manner I want, when I want, to use weapons and buddies I want. The gameplay is so liberating, I continue experimenting with various approaches, going full stealth once, then full Rambo the very next mission, sometimes calling in aerial bombardment, and sometimes just dropping sleeping gas and fultoning everybody out.

That is why this game was a strong candidate for my GOTY, but Until Dawn And Dying Light came out in 2015 as well, so it wins my bronze medal.
 

Colocho

Banned
Loved MGSV.

I can understand the criticisms of minimal story (if you ignore the tapes) and the complete gameplay departure from previous entries in the MGS series, but to me it is precisely these changes that are its strength.

It's not just the minimal story as you put it, it's the whole "this story means shit because *ENDING SPOILER (but you shouldn't be here if you haven't finished it)
everything we've been doing is done by a fake big boss, while the real one is of doing the real important shit in the background, I mean we're playing as the MG1 villain and not the real big boss, who is pretty much the basis for the whole series, and we never end up seeing his whole story which is what everyone hoped from MGSV. This game isn't the one to fill all the gaps we were promised, it's almost a pointless side game
. The gameplay is top notch though.
 

brawly

Member
Hah, no. That would not have made the second half any less paperthin or repetitive, nor would it have tied everything together like it was promised.
 
Not for me. I have a much more general problem with how the story was presented: Play mission --> Go back to Mother base --> See dramatic cutscene --> Play next mission that seemingly doesn't take into account the scope of the previous cutscene --> Rinse, repeat...

There was just too much of a disconnect for me to get engrossed in the story. MGS3 is still the gold standard IMO.
 
The game is incomplete, there's issues with pacing and story, there's issues with how the game approaches the building elements.

But, the game that is there? Fantastic. One of the best games I have ever played, but a sub-par Metal Gear game.

It was my game of the year.
 
It was already my 2015 GOTY.
I haven't played TW3 or the DLC for BB yet though.

For those of you that still consider MGS5 your GOTY, why doesn't the fact the game is incomplete bother you?

Because it's the game I enjoyed my time with the most last year. Also I fail to see mission 51 as being extremely important or vital to anything at all. So the game wasn't 'incomplete' to me.
 
No because I stopped playing the game before I even beat part 1. I think the last one I did was mission 22 or something. I know it was after you unlock all of that FOB nonsense.
 
it's already my goty =p

that said, episode 51 would help a much more complete chapter 2 but it wouldn't be enough really imo... chapter 2 is already a misnomer... it's at worst an epilogue of sorts haha at best chapter 1.5. it would probably need a handful of other missions to better bring the cutscenes together, and even then i probably would have still expected a chapter 3 or at least 2.5 to sort of 'bridge' MGSV and MG a little better.

it would be rather hit or miss I think... quite a lot of folks seem to rather enjoy the game but lament it being unfinished or just missing a bit.

but there's a pretty large group too that wanted it (justifiable so btw, totally fair expectation) to be an entirely different type of game (a MGS game lol) so there's no fixing that


actually, reminds me a lot of FF XII ...

a game that doesn't 'fit the series' ... dramatically different and more 'open' gameplay design... game and story ends up feeling unfinished.. designer departs the company after...

some fans originally hate it cuz it's 'not FF/MGS' ... cue the cult following a year or two later =p
 
No. For me, MGSV lost me with its incredibly repetitive structure. There are only so many top generals of some acronym that I can kidnap before I get bored.
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
No. The game has serious problems and not just for Chapter 51. The game is missing a lot more and Kojima just didn't had time to make the game he wanted. So no.

This. If you actually watch the Youtube of that mission, it ends on a cliff-hanger. The game was clearly not finished.
 

Liamario

Banned
The presentation of the story and repetitive nature of the game is what's stopping it from becoming a GOTY contender. Adding more repetition isn't going to help.
 

Clear

CliffyB's Cock Holster
Loved the game, only got knocked off my personal GOTY spot by the Bloodborne DLC encouraging me to replay the whole thing again and reminding me of its brilliance.
 

LowSignal

Member
It was a good game but chapter 51 wouldn't have saved it from the other problems I had with it. I feel like if this same game was made by a no name studio it wouldn't even be thought of for GOTY 2015.
 
I have nothing bad to say about MGS5 besides the story. I wish the story was like in the other games. I think MGS5 has some of the best stealth gameplay and best open world gameplay. It exceeded my expectations in moment-to-moment gameplay.

If Hitman is going to top this, they have to bring out all their guns!
 

Jonnax

Member
Chapter 51 from what I can tell was more non sequitur rubbish.
The game's story was incomplete but what we had doesn't inspire confidence in what could have been.

For instance, why didn't quiet write down something or speak in Navajo?
Also the goals of Diamond Dogs really felt like 'let's do what we did in peace Walker again' without any real motivation.


And let's not forget the R&D timer and online resources bullshit.
 

DeSolos

Member
No, but the lack of core content is the reason why it isn't my GOTY.

It feels like 33%-50% of the game was cut out. A complete Episode 51 would help though.
 

Aceofspades

Banned
No.

There were at least 10 better games this year. MGSV won't reach the heights of BB or TW3 even with 100+ mediocre repetitive chapters...gosh you just reminded me of how much I hated MGSV. Damn MGS1-4 have always ranked up high on my all time favorite lists, MGSV is my greatest disappointment in gaming history.

Fuck konami for forcing Kojima to milk this franchise to mediocrity.
 

Sakura

Member
No, the game was lacking story driven content all throughout the game. One more mission wouldn't solve that. Not to mention the repetitive gameplay and areas, amongst other things.
 

RawNuts

Member
At the risk of sounding like an echo, there are simply too many other issues with the game for that one aspect to make much of a difference. I've been so disinterested with it that I haven't even bothered to complete the game, and I wouldn't consider it to be in my top games of the year either.
 
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