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PlayStation 4 hits 35.9 million sold through to end users
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potatohead
Member
They put up some info on the PlayStation YouTube channel.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=zQU0xCLDnF4
Edit: Welp, beaten. Badly.
So it's not a useless post... Prediction time. Opening at >1m in NPD, and going on to sell >10m worldwide, Uncharted will thrive on PS4's dominant position in the market. Just as Halo has suffered from XB1's.
Ravage_Hydra
Member
Congrats Sony well deserved success
I said in a different post that those exact titles were like the only first party games that pushed console sales.
I apologize, I got my Forza's mixed up. Forza Horizon 2 was cross gen.
JE-SUS.
...I can understand all, but HOW could some people predicted 50-60 million for PS4!? O_O
gundamkyoukai
Member
Your assumption is wrong people buy consoles to play games it don't matter who makes them .
The choice comes down to many factors , price , friends , famliy , game types , exclusive etc etc .
But having the most games is a plus exclusive or not .
Steam having 1 million RL sales don't mean much if the person don't care about PC which is my point . ( also every system has sales on DD)
The PS name was build on having the most games in the widest variety of genres .
For eg this gen if you want Japanese games on console you go PS .
Yeah, this is pretty amazing.
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Can't really say this without knowing how much over one million the game is at (that's not to say the game IS doing better than 5 though).
Manmademan
Member
you definitely are. It's been shown over and over that most people buy consoles for easy acess to third party titles, not exclusives alone. Multipatform and third party titles make up the vast majority of software on all platforms, and frequently outsell flagship exclusives. The best selling title on the PS2 was San Andreas at 27+ million. The highest selling sony produced title was Gran Turismo 3, a distant second at 14 million or so.
Nintendo might be the outlier, but they've been losing marketshare hand over fist every generation (sans the wii) as third party publishers flee their platforms.
TimeEffect
Member
Wow, are we saying that PS4 is ~20 million units further than Xbox? That's crazy to put into perspective
Is that gap expected to widen even more?
Is that gap expected to widen even more?
Yeah, PS4 is probably close to that (20 million more than Xbox One).
And the gap should increase more as both consoles are looking similar to PS1 vs. the N64.
Edit: I'm expecting the gap to be double that (40 Million) by the end of the gen.
Almost 100%. There are just more people in general buying PS4's than XB1.
EventHorizon
Member
My excuse was that I had recently seen a Pach Attack where Pachter said 1 million a month was Sony's likely maximum production capacity. I just multiplied that out over 5 years and got 60 million. Sony obviously had a lot of faith in their console and didn't skimp on production. Now it looks like their 5 year total will be more like 90 million.
Disaster Nebraska
Banned
Due to trends WW and the launch of PS VR, the gap will likely widen.
But it'll be harder to maintain the 2:1 ratio. PS4 needs ~4m units until 40m, whereas X1 needs ~2m units to make it to 20m. PS4 needs ~24m units until 60m, but X1 only needs ~12m units until 30m.
PS4 would haver to consistently sell double the X1 for several years in a row, essentially. And I'm not sure if that's possible.
GIANKRATOS
Member
"Ahh, Tub, or some say Bathtub..."
"No one can catch us! No one can stop us now!"
"The gddr5 of course!"
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Stilton Disco
Member
Probably not that much, but it must be getting on for 2:1 WW at this point.
And ooh yes, that gap is going to be a chasm by generations end. If VR takes off, like Kinect did last gen, even more so and even sooner.
Just do it lol
That would be my expectation. Momentum is capable of changing though, as PS3 managed to do. For X1 I think it will take a breakout new franchise though.
Japan could widen it a little with strong software support in 2016, owing to the fact that X1 is dead on arrival there and it's alaready a bloodbath in Europe bar the UK, so that leaves the US as the main battle to keep the gap down. Price, I think, will be key to answering that question.
Prediction time for Sony first party software in 2015:
Uncharted 4: ~10 million
Gran Turismo Sports: ~7 million
The Last Guardian: 2 million+
Ratchet and Clank: 1 million+
Horizon Zero Dawn: ~7 million
Gravity Rush 2: ~1 million
Dreams: (wild card)
It should be a great year for Sony first party games sales.
Uncharted 4: ~10 million
Gran Turismo Sports: ~7 million
The Last Guardian: 2 million+
Ratchet and Clank: 1 million+
Horizon Zero Dawn: ~7 million
Gravity Rush 2: ~1 million
Dreams: (wild card)
It should be a great year for Sony first party games sales.
The Xbox One would literally need an exclusive with the same impact as Minecraft for it to have a chance at catching up in worldwide sales.
It's impossible for Xbox to make a comeback. The brand power in Asia and Europe just isn't there.
And Sony going "fuck this after all, we're out. Gonna focus on camera lenses now".
Manmademan
Member
this is impossible. PS3 caught up largely due to being able to cost cut itself to parity to the 360, then leveraging microsoft's absence in EU and JP to catch up worldwide.
neither of these things are possible for MS. They can't undercut sony in the cost department (the xbox is actually more expensive to manufacture than the ps4) and they have even LESS of a presence outside of the US this generation than last.
There's no feasible path to victory here for them. A breakout franchise would cut the gap somewhat in the US and UK, but they simply don't have enough of a presence in the rest of the world to make a difference.
I expect Dreams to be a bomb Sales wise and critically just cause it appears like it will rely mostly upon User generated content. Which will make it hard to review before content exists and hard for people to play until content exists. While there is a limited number fo people who can create compelling content with an even more limited number that bought dreams and created content within it.
Dre_G_Writer
Member
Came for the gifs, was not disappointed.
We don't really know Xbox One sold /shipped numbers or PS4 shipped numbers but I would say it's ~ 18 million ahead.
Momentum didn't really change, the Xbox 360 simply had a head start. The PS3 always sold pretty competively with the Xbox 360 on a worldwide basis. And the PS3 didn't even come close to matching Xbox 360 sales in the US.
Miniature Kaiju
Member
The statistician in me is pleased with this. Pretty Zipfian. Funny thing is that there's an ecosystem diversity model (RAD) that correlates pretty closely to Zipf-Mandelbrot law. Wouldn't doubt it could be adapted to model other kinds of ecosystems (like consumer electronics markets).
TimeEffect
Member
Man that's intense. Sony was neck and neck with Xbox last gen. To think that they can be head and shoulders above Xbox is pretty insane since a lot of people never expected a runaway like that again.
I can't imagine what it will be like when Gran Turismo fans start buying the console.
I'm curious to see how Uncharted does. After Last of Us, it felt like to me that Naughty Dog really expanded their name to non gaming fans. The Remaster was a clever way to reach out to converts. I don't remember seeing Uncharted on Reddit or on Youtube the way Last of Us was, so I feel like Naughty Dog really managed to break out into more popular gaming culture as a whole.
I can't imagine what it will be like when Gran Turismo fans start buying the console.
I'm curious to see how Uncharted does. After Last of Us, it felt like to me that Naughty Dog really expanded their name to non gaming fans. The Remaster was a clever way to reach out to converts. I don't remember seeing Uncharted on Reddit or on Youtube the way Last of Us was, so I feel like Naughty Dog really managed to break out into more popular gaming culture as a whole.
Disaster Nebraska
Banned
PS3's momentum didn't really change, though. It sold well right out of the gate and continued to chug forward.
What happened is 360's momentum began to falter.
The situations are not congruous. Even if PS4's momentum dies out, X1 is already struggling to sell worldwide.
mejin
Member
You expect PS4 to beat 100M? If you do, XB1 would need 60M LTD so we have this 40M gap. Right now, I would think it's a number XB1 can't reach.
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
Media Molecule's making a full set of levels for Dreams (and effectively a large library of high quality pre-made assets to remix), just as they did for LittleBigPlanet and community test levels may be available when the game launches too.
On approach to 'next generation', what makes me scratch my head even today, is the high number of people who said they were going to buy the Xbox 720 because the DualShock 3 was not as comfortable as the Xbox controller. It was repeated over and over, endlessly.
People were so sure of Microsoft's success that they actually thought Sony would launch the PS4 with the DS3 or something indistinguishable from it. At no point did it occur to them that Sony would take the opportunity to refresh their controller design.
And when word started filtering down from developers that the new PS4 controller was nifty...
People were so sure of Microsoft's success that they actually thought Sony would launch the PS4 with the DS3 or something indistinguishable from it. At no point did it occur to them that Sony would take the opportunity to refresh their controller design.
And when word started filtering down from developers that the new PS4 controller was nifty...
Manmademan
Member
Sony was neck and neck with Xbox last gen after launching a year late with a $599 console with a bad network that somehow cranked out worse looking games than it's competition for YEARS.
It's amazing that they managed to turn that into a tie. If it had been anyone else, they never would have recovered. Can you see nintendo pulling that off? Sega? Atari?
opticalmace
Member
holy shit. :lol"Ahh, Tub, or some say Bathtub..."
"No one can catch us! No one can stop us now!"
"The gddr5 of course!"
Lol sorry i had to
John Wick
Member
But what about the better multiplats???
I'm not expecting the gen to last long enough (yet) for the PS4 to reach 100 million before we see the next Xbox. I definitely think it will get there eventually though.
bitbydeath
Gold Member
They did say higher than 17.7m shipped, too bad we don't know Sonys shipped numbers to do a better comparison.
I'm buying everything!
mejin
Member
Ah, got it. Makes sense.
Disaster Nebraska
Banned
PS4 is already on a trajectory to hit 100m (but of course that includes plenty of assumptions) by the end of 2019, which is the earliest I can see the X2 coming out.
When you add in PS VR and its potential to make the PS4 an even hotter item, 100m by the time X2 launches is not unreasonable.
Mikey Jr.
Member
Isn't April typically a shit month for hardware sales? Don't feel like Uncharted will be maximized for hardware in April. End of April no less.
Glorified G
Member
Says the person who wrote an eight paragraph rant in a sales thread on a message board.
You purchased a videogame console, which its main purpose is to play videogames despite the fact that it currently doesn't have the library you're looking for. And you did this months ago.
I see why you're questioning the sales but do not assume that because you followed this logic, other people are just as stupid as consumers. Most people make somewhat informed decisions when it is regards to their purchasing habits.