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[ugh_the_boot]

Eww sensor bar and 900p? Fuck dis i'm out

 

[Jonneh3003]

Eww sensor bar and 900p? Fuck dis i'm out

These aren't the specs of the console.

 

[Shrennin]

Eww sensor bar and 900p?

My guess is that the NX might be back compat with the Wii U (and maybe 3DS?) so a sensor bar would be needed in that case.

 

[SinCityAssassin]

Man I love confirmed speculation. Really points out who does drive-by posts.

 

[Wildean]

Do you people really think the NX will have Wii U graphics again?

Perhaps the question is why wouldn't it? Nintendo seems content with it for their output and the third party Western studios who would want the extra horsepower don't port triple-A titles to Nintendo consoles anyhow.

Unless Nintendo is somehow going to claw all that third party support back, making a significantly more powerful console would just add to the cost with no tangible benefit.

 

[NDP_Mulcair]

Yes, they perform A LOT of surveys on their own accord, sometimes only for a press statement to show potential customers their knowledge on certain areas.

But again, the target of a conjoint analysis is to determine a "perfect" product. And the focus was obviously on Nintendo's NX product features and price tag. The only company who might pay for such an information is Nintendo, so it's actually quite clear that this survey was tasked by them. It's just too specific for a "general" market study.

You're jumping to conclusions when you say "the only company who might pay for information is Nintendo."

Nintendo has yet to reveal anything regarding their new product. There are loads of parties vested in Nintendo, including retailers, publishers who are considering the NX but have not yet committed to Nintendo, and institutional corporate investors, who might be interested in how the market responds to various price points and product features. It could very well be that someone other than Nintendo commissioned it.

I have a hard time believing that it was Nintendo because this data would have been useful to Nintendo two years ago, not right now as the Nintendo NX finalizes production with a lot of the key hardware components already set in stone. Presuming they're releasing in Holiday 2016, it's too late to change the fundamental hardware decisions that went into the Nintendo NX. Even if the NX is coming out in 2017, it's still stretching it.

A more likely story is that some other client wanted to test the U.S. market in response to specific price points and hardware features so when Nintendo does make a move they have an idea of how the market would respond or how the general public might react to such news.

Alternatively, there could be multiple clients interested in such data. I wouldn't put it past the GfK Group and their >10,000 employees to commission a detailed study and sell it to multiple organizations as they have done in the past for other video game-related studies.

 

[Blues1990]

I personally cannot tell the difference between the different television resolutions (720, 900, 1080, etc.), so that isn't a concern for me.

Others shouldn't be worrying, as long as the system is up to snuff.

 

[MrCunningham]

It outputs 4K video? I like this new Nintendo.

There are lots of current generation graphics chipsets out there that can do 4K video streaming. This is just going to be a small perk included with whatever AMD chipset they're using (I'm assuming it's AMD, since Nintendo hasn't strayed from them in nearly 15 years) .

900p handheld?

• Nintendo NX Console
• Sensor Bar
• Game Controller
• HDMI Cable

Not a handheld, confirmed.

Spoiler

If true.

 

[Oersted]

There are lots of current generation graphics chipsets out there that can do 4K video streaming. This is just going to be a small perk included with whatever AMD chipset they're using (I'm assuming it's AMD, since Nintendo hasn't strayed from them in nearly 15 years) .

• Nintendo NX Console
• Sensor Bar
• Game Controller
• HDMI Cable

Not a handheld, confirmed.

Spoiler

If true.

It is made up, so not telling anything.

 

[Miracle]

I'm confused. How do you tell if the console is 900p? Especially when it doesn't seem to mention much about the hardware?

I thought it depended on the game themselves if it would be 900p or 1080p?

 

[ahm998]

if it can run gamepad 720p & 900p for TV i am in 😍

and if it can run multi games at 60fps i am in also 😉

 

[Grylvak]

I'm curious if the 900p/60fps is supposed to be the minimal resolution and fps? That's the only reason I can think of it being listed at all.

That's most likely not the case at all. It's a nice thought though.

 

[beril]

You're jumping to conclusions when you say "the only company who might pay for information is Nintendo."

Nintendo has yet to reveal anything regarding their new product. There are loads of parties vested in Nintendo, including retailers, publishers who are considering the NX but have not yet committed to Nintendo, and institutional corporate investors, who might be interested in how the market responds to various price points and product features. It could very well be that someone other than Nintendo commissioned it.

I have a hard time believing that it was Nintendo because this data would have been useful to Nintendo two years ago, not right now as the Nintendo NX finalizes production with a lot of the key hardware components already set in stone. Presuming they're releasing in Holiday 2016, it's too late to change the fundamental hardware decisions that went into the Nintendo NX. Even if the NX is coming out in 2017, it's still stretching it.

A more likely story is that some other client wanted to test the U.S. market in response to specific price points and hardware features so when Nintendo does make a move they have an idea of how the market would respond or how the general public might react to such news.

Alternatively, there could be multiple clients interested in such data. I wouldn't put it past the GfK Group and their >10,000 employees to commission a detailed study and sell it to multiple organizations as they have done in the past for other video game-related studies.

good post

Also Nintendo has repeatedly said that NX will be a brand new concept/new experience so I'm not sure what good a market survey that doesn't mention any details about the new concept would do them. Except some very vague statements about handheld connectivity and I guess achievement, there is nothing even hinting at new features

 

[AcademicSaucer]

27 pages of nothing, gaf please.

 

[Neoxon]

There are lots of current generation graphics chipsets out there that can do 4K video streaming. This is just going to be a small perk included with whatever AMD chipset they're using (I'm assuming it's AMD, since Nintendo hasn't strayed from them in nearly 15 years) .

• Nintendo NX Console
• Sensor Bar
• Game Controller
• HDMI Cable

Not a handheld, confirmed.

Spoiler

If true.

They did mention that there was also a NX Handheld. Either way, this isn't anything with merit.

 

[FunkyDealer]

27 pages of nothing, gaf please.

IdontknowwhatIexpected.gif

 

[TLZ]

27 pages of nothing, gaf please.

Quoted in agreement.

I woke up to 27 pages thinking we finally have the specs revealed. Instead it's a crappy rumor made up from all our past speculations. It's like whoever made the rumor read neogaf. Everything about it points to Xbone.

 

[Neoxon]

27 pages of nothing, gaf please.

This

 

[MrCunningham]

It is made up, so not telling anything.

Well alright then.

 

[Loco4Coco]

If this thing doesn't support the Transfer Pak then I'm done with Nintendo.

 

[mrklaw]

27 pages of nothing, gaf please.

Nintendo does strange things to people.

 

[MrV4ltor]

27 pages of nothing, gaf please.

And that's the truth.

 

[Bitch Pudding]

I have a hard time believing that it was Nintendo because this data would have been useful to Nintendo two years ago, not right now as the Nintendo NX finalizes production with a lot of the key hardware components already set in stone. Presuming they're releasing in Holiday 2016, it's too late to change the fundamental hardware decisions that went into the Nintendo NX. Even if the NX is coming out in 2017, it's still stretching it.
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Good point, but I may add that Sony for example decided to put 8 GB RAM into PS4 not before the very final meeting (on that topic, whenever that actually happened). Certain features of NX might still be unclear, above all the price point. At the end of the day, Nintendo has to take recent developments into account, like 1 TB HDD SKUs or reduced price tags.


I won't loose my face when I say that I like the idea that Nintendo might be behind that suvery, because if you align the features mentioned in that study they indicate what Nintendo might be up to.


Guess I am as excited as everyone to finally get some official information on Nintendo's next console. All those rumors cannot be in Nintendo's interest....

 

[Mikey Jr.]

Not sure why people are bitching about 900p.

If I could get 900p but 60fps on all games on PS4, I would take that shit in a heartbeat. You people are fucking wack.

 

[beril]

Not sure why people are bitching about 900p.

If I could get 900p but 60fps on all games on PS4, I would take that shit in a heartbeat. You people are fucking wack.

Well yes, in a theoretical scenario where it had actually been a legitimate source and if it were something a legitimate source would actually say, 900p/60fps would point to something more powerful than PS4 but with a memory layout similar to XboxOne/Wii U.

 

[lupinko]

I don't think it is. MK8 was 720p.

Smash is 1080p/60fps iirc.

 

[Mory Dunz]

Smash is 1080p/60fps iirc.

I believe the only 1080p games are:
Smash (60fps)
WWHD (30fps)
and MH3U (~40fps?)

could be a couple more though that I don't know about. It's not really on topic, but this thread is a lot nothing at this point anyway...

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

I don't think it is. MK8 was 720p.

But what is smashbros?

 

[The Abominable Snowman]

27 pages of nothing, gaf please.

You mean 14 pages?

 

[beril]

I believe the only 1080p games are:
Smash (60fps)
WWHD (30fps)
and MH3U (~40fps?)

could be a couple more though that I don't know about. It's not really on topic, but this thread is a lot nothing at this point anyway...

Plus a bunch of eShop games.

Spoiler

Gunman Clive HD Collection renders at 1920x2160 with 2xMSAA at 60fps

Twilight Princess HD will be 1080p as well I think

 

[Nabbis]

Lol... 900p. Another extremely low powered device?

 

[Mory Dunz]

Plus a bunch of eShop games.

Spoiler

Gunman Clive HD Collection renders at 1920x2160 with 2xMSAA at 60fps

Starfox and Twilight Princess HD will be 1080p as well I think

Yeah there's probably several eshop games.
Heck, maybe a random barbie game is 1080[ was
Was rayman 1080? Maybe only ps4/xbox was.

Yeah, TPHD will definitely be 1080p i think.

 

[philion]

NX was NX all along!

 

[Colonel Mustard]

Yeah there's probably several eshop games.
Heck, maybe a random barbie game is 1080[ was
Was rayman 1080? Maybe only ps4/xbox was.

Yeah, TPHD will definitely be 1080p i think.

Rayman was also 1080p, yes.

NX was NX all along!

But who was phone?

 

[Pinky]

I believe the only 1080p games are:
Smash (60fps)
WWHD (30fps)
and MH3U (~40fps?)

could be a couple more though that I don't know about. It's not really on topic, but this thread is a lot nothing at this point anyway...

I think Scribblenauts is 1080p as well.

 

[Yautja_Warrior]

Interesting, if NX is a console / handheld hybrid and the 900p thing is correct , maybe that is for the handheld screen.

I would expect the home console part to be 1080p, if they are not pushing for 4k gaming, but I never expected Nintendo to do that, still too soon for 4k gaming on console.

Nintendo really should take advantage of releasing a new system a few years after PS4 and XB1 and at least make NX a little more powerful, so it can do 1080p/60FPS as standard. If they don't do that, it seems like a wasted opportunity.

 

[Neoxon]

Interesting, if NX is a console / handheld hybrid and the 900p thing is correct , maybe that is for the handheld screen.

I would expect the home console part to be 1080p, if they are not pushing for 4k gaming, but I never expected Nintendo to do that, still too soon for 4k gaming on console.

Nintendo really should take advantage of releasing a new system a few years after PS4 and XB1 and at least make NX a little more powerful, so it can do 1080p/60FPS as standard. If they don't do that, it seems like a wasted opportunity.

Then it would make the NX Console a bit too expensive & exposed to being undercut by a potential PS4/XB1 price cut.

 

[ChaosXVI]

Eh, I'm not going to get myself all worked up over this, even if the whole 900p 60fps thing is true, I'm sure that's a minimum that they are looking at. And even then, there aren't a terribly huge number of games this gen that reach that level anyway...and it doesn't imply anything regarding the overall horsepower of the console, which I'm not expecting to be a beast, but something that is around a PS4 in terms of power.

When the true NX news comes, I'll be listening.

 

[thisisvlad]

Has anyone been able to go onto the swagbucks.com site and actually get the survey to load for them?

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Interesting, if NX is a console / handheld hybrid and the 900p thing is correct , maybe that is for the handheld screen.

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I'd gladly take it but there's no way the handheld screen would be that high a resolution.

 

[Randomizer]

This is way too specific for them to have come up with it themselves, imo. Hopefully the 900p is the handheld's resolution, so it is the base resolution. I'd take 900p@60fps over 1080@sub30 everyday anyway.

 

[iMax]

Smash is 1080p/60fps iirc.

But what is smashbros?

That's the point. Not all games are the same. There's no such thing as a "900p system".

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

That's the point. Not all games are the same. There's no such thing as a "900p system".

Yeah, that detail alone makes me think the whole thing is rubbish.

It makes no sense, Nintendo would never specify resolution and framerate in general.

 

[Xun]

This is trending on Facebook at the moment...

Ughh.

 

[beril]

This is way too specific for them to have come up with it themselves, imo. Hopefully the 900p is the handheld's resolution, so it is the base resolution. I'd take 900p@60fps over 1080@sub30 everyday anyway.

It's not specific, it's bullshit.
900p is not a console spec, it's not something that would appear in an official statement or document from Nintendo and it's not something the general audience knows anything about.

It's something someone with no technical knowledge might find when googling some console discussions. "People talk about 900p vs 1080p and 30/60 fps when comparing PS4 and Xbox One; let's put 900p/60fps as an example spec in our survey"

 

[Spyder_Monkey]

How is this thread still not locked?

 

[TetraGenesis]

It's not specific, it's bullshit.
900p is not a console spec, it's not something that would appear in an official statement or document from Nintendo and it's not something the general audience knows anything about.

It's something someone with no technical knowledge might find when googling some console discussions. "People talk about 900p vs 1080p and 30/60 fps when comparing PS4 and Xbox One; let's put 900p/60fps as an example spec in our survey"

Great point.

 

[wild wild rice]

These aren't the specs of the console.

lol...good to see the conversation hasn't changed throughout the day.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

That's the point. Not all games are the same. There's no such thing as a "900p system".

Well DUH.. you cited mario kart 8 lol

 

[ika]

I know this is just an external survey but... I don't understand some of the replies on this thread. In all NX-related threads in the last several months, most people assume that NX will be a bit weaker than Xbone/PS4 (and usually are happy about that), and yet they're furious about "900p60fps" that is something you could expect for a lower spec machine. Heck, many PS4/Xbone games are 900p/30fps or lower and then upscaled to 1080! Developers usually put bells and whistles above resolution all the time. I honestly don't get the drama, even if this is debunked... A NX console being weaker than current machines won't output better graphics/resolutions than those machines...