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NeoGAF's struggle with the meaning of "minimalism"

Radio

Member
It takes all of four seconds to get to the Minimalism Wikipedia page and see the canonical example of minimalism:

IKB_191.jpg

They really knocked it out of the park with that Sonic cover.
 
Which ultimately tells you nothing. So even the MGS cover is disqualified since it has a logo and isn't just plain white. That's what I'm taking from your example.

Was the example given by Brakke pure white? No. Its a simple blue geometric shape with a thin white frame around it.

The MGS box is a logo, which is relatively simple, small and red on a clear white background which highlights the logo. Easy on the eyes with very little going on within the space.

His example gives an easy understanding of the concept of "minimalism".

MGS cover is disqualified since it has a logo and isn't just plain white

If you take that from the example then there isn't much we can do to help you understand I'm afraid.
 

Brakke

Banned
Which ultimately tells you nothing. So even the MGS cover is disqualified since it has a logo and isn't just plain white. That's what I'm taking from your example.

When you get to the page and see that example and realize "oh shit that doesn't represent anything except in the most abstract terms" then you should go on and read the page.
 

TheMoon

Member
Was the example given by Brakke pure white? No. Its a simple blue geometric shape with a thin white frame around it.

The MGS box is a logo, which is relatively simple, small and red on a clear white background which highlights the logo. Easy on the eyes with very little going on within the space.

His example gives an easy understanding of the concept of "minimalism". If you take that from the example then there isn't much we can do to help you understand I'm afraid.

See, the thing is that it's not even clear that the white frame is part of the actual image and not just a white frame because that's how the jpg got uploaded. Hence my point of nobody really trying to educate anyone here. Posting a link to wikipedia hardly qualifies.

lmao title change


Look at post #90

Already been on that page earlier but thanks.
 

Brakke

Banned
See, the thing is that it's not even clear that the white frame is part of the actual image and not just a white frame because that's how the jpg got uploaded.

Are you a actual clown lol. Even if you were sincerely confused on that point, it takes exactly four seconds to resolve that confusion.
 
See, the thing is that it's not even clear that the white frame is part of the actual image and not just a white frame because that's how the jpg got uploaded. Hence my point of nobody really trying to educate anyone here. Posting a link to wikipedia hardly qualifies.

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No way you believe what you just typed. Come on man, that's grasping at straws.

10/10 thread. Or should I say 1/1 thread?

No this is a thread

Cotton_Threads_03.jpg
 

TheMoon

Member
Are you a actual clown lol. Even if you were sincerely confused on that point, it takes exactly four seconds to resolve that confusion.

You're doing nothing but prove my point. How do I resolve that confusion within four seconds? The white frame is tiny on the wikipedia page and completely disappears into the background if I click on it to enlarge it. The image is not described anywhere on that page either.

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No way you believe what you just typed. Come on man, that's grasping at straws

Yes, apparently I'm the epitome of stupidity.


Thanks.
 

trixx

Member

I'm not sure if this is minimalist. But this is one of the greatest box arts I've ever seen. It's like a movie poster or a cover of a novel. Take the stuff at the bottom and put it at the back and yeesh, also the n64 sign at the top. Just have Nintendo and Rare symbol.
 

luka

Loves Robotech S1
I kind of like the second one more, emblem aside. The city is really detailed, and makes it stand out. The white one just seems kind of lazy.

you think making an deliberately sparse cover using new art of the main character is lazy, but simply pasting it on top of 4 year old art of the city is...less lazy?
 

Brakke

Banned
Again zero references to the white frame actually being part of the piece itself and all the talk being about the monochrome blue color used on it.

Anyway, thread is over. No thanks to the dumb title change. Could've been fun.

if the art is monochrome
then
the blue is the only color

There's a whole series of IKBs. It's obviously a painted canvas on a wall. I don't know why you even think this misunderstanding matters. In a world where minimalism means "blue canvas", then this thread is obviously a disaster. "A dismembered bloody arm floating in space" isn't like "blue".
 

cj_iwakura

Member
you think making an deliberately sparse cover using new art of the main character is lazy, but simply pasting it on top of 4 year old art of the city is...less lazy?

I stand corrected, then, but I still prefer the look of her over the city than over a blank background. Maybe if a more cohesive version was done.
 
Again zero references to the white frame actually being part of the piece itself and all the talk being about the monochrome blue color used on it.

Anyway, thread is over. No thanks to the dumb title change. Could've been fun.

Monochrome works use one color or values of one color. If the picture uses both white and blue color values it's not monochrome.

of course you have to know the possible white jpeg border is actually part of the art first
 

TheMoon

Member
if the art is monochrome
then
the blue is the only color

There's a whole series of IKBs. It's obviously a painted canvas on a wall. I don't know why you even think this misunderstanding matters. In a world where minimalism means "blue canvas", then this thread is obviously a disaster. "A dismembered bloody arm floating in space" isn't like "blue".

Your example of this blue canvas IKB was supposed to be eye-opening to everyone here about what minimalism is when in fact this is just one of the numerous ways to express this kind of style. What can be taken from only posting this example without any real context or explanation is that everything that isn't some monochrome basic shape doesn't qualify. Hence my original jab at the MGS box already being too much.

Instead of everyone from the art expert squad just laughing at the uneducated peasants for their ignorance, it would've been helpful if someone had taken it upon themselves and compiled a list of box arts that actually fit the proper minimalist definition. What's more, it would also have been just wonderful if those blessed enough to have been educated about proper minimalism in art class or whatever to recognize that this strict definition is not actually what the OP was going for and thus there being no need for all these condescending posts which to me just screams "did not read OP, only read thread title" ...

edit: if I sound bitter that's because I am since an initially fun thread about clean and simple box arts turned into this poopfest.
 
If anything, this a great example of how easily threads get derailed on Neogaf when dozens of people feel the need to repeatedly state a point in order to sound smart.
 
Best thread title ever.

Maybe we can have a thread on the best maximalist covers, but I expect it'll be full of Final Fantasy covers too.
 

Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
Okay, I don't care whether this is actually "minimalism" or not, but it's nice and simple (which is what the OP was getting at).
And yes, all that text is part of the logo.

Heh, I think the literal paragraph of Engrish probably undermines the otherwise sparse elegance of the box art.
 
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