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NeoGAF's struggle with the meaning of "minimalism"

RangerBAD

Member
Not when minimalism is especially concerned with being cohesive. Maybe you're thinking of something else?

Maybe I should say including more detail. Like the ICO cover. That doesn't seem minimalistic, but it does contain more detail and accurately covers what the game is about. Of course it's not bloated either.
 

Wulfram

Member
There's a difference between "minimalism" as an artistic movement and what "minimalist" means in every day speech. I don't think its wrong to use the looser definition.

Though a lot of covers in this thread don't even meet a colloquial definition of minimalist.
 
If anything, this a great example of how easily threads get derailed on Neogaf when dozens of people feel the need to repeatedly state a point in order to sound smart.

Threads wouldn't get derailed if people understood the language they used. If you don't fully understand what a word means, don't use it just to sound "smart".

We'll all find out when you're wrong.
 

irriadin

Member
Go back bitches, time for the KING!


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Dropping all the logos and ratings, this is the best I've seen from this thread.
 

munchie64

Member
Threads wouldn't get derailed if people understood the language they used. If you don't fully understand what a word means, don't use it just to sound "smart".

We'll all find out when you're wrong.
Oh come on. The OP did fuck up but I doubt that was their intention.
 
Maybe "clean" would be a better word.

Also, it would be better for everyone if the people who come in to say "none of this is minimalist" also post an example of boxart that actually is minimalist, so that people learn something instead of reading another offtopic post.
 

AESplusF

Member
Maybe "clean" would be a better word.

Also, it would be better for everyone if the people who come in to say "none of this is minimalist" also post an example of boxart that actually is minimalist, so that people learn something instead of reading another offtopic post.

That's pretty much exactly what I was going to say so I'll just quote you.
 

Shpeshal Nick

aka Collingwood
Here is a much better example than what's been posted in this thread. Problem is, it's not official. There currently are NO minimalist offical boxarts out there.

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HotHamBoy

Member
Maybe "clean" would be a better word.

Also, it would be better for everyone if the people who come in to say "none of this is minimalist" also post an example of boxart that actually is minimalist, so that people learn something instead of reading another offtopic post.

Yeah, but a ton of these covers aren't clean, either. I don't need to post an example because all of the truly minimalist covers have been posted.
 
Better how? Minimalist is a perfectly fine word. If people can't understand that, I don't trust them to understand what clean means either.

It seems like people just see "cover" and go nuts.
Better in that it would reduce the amount of people coming in and going "this isn't minimalist".

Clean doesn't have such a strict definition, and people will get it just the same, given the OP post:
As an alternative to bloated box arts.

Uncluttered, minimal, whatever.
 
Maybe "clean" would be a better word.

Also, it would be better for everyone if the people who come in to say "none of this is minimalist" also post an example of boxart that actually is minimalist, so that people learn something instead of reading another offtopic post.
There's not that many examples of minimalist box art.
 

B_Bech

Member
I was going to make a post listing which images weren't examples of minimalism, but it was essentially 90% of the replies. Even the ones that border on minimalism are more minimalistic than truly minimalism. Minimalism would more or less convey its message through clean symbols or shapes like the Deus Ex, Resistance 3, Elder Scrolls, Resident Evil 4 and Portal covers. Simply having the game's title or a white backdrop isn't minimalist. It's subdued and coveys a feeling rather than shouting a blatant message. Minimalism does not strictly mean simple. These are great box arts, but not great minimalist box arts.


Neither of the OP's examples are proper minimalist covers.
 

HotHamBoy

Member
Better in that it would reduce the amount of people coming in and going "this isn't minimalist".

Clean doesn't have such a strict definition, and people will get it just the same, given the OP post:


Uncluttered, minimal, whatever.

Regardless of what you want to call it, a lot of these covers don't apply and people would still post pictures that didn't fit the word you use.
 
*enters thread a few hours ago*
*sees that people have no clue what minimalist means, OP included*
*quietly leaves*
...
*hours later, sees thread's new title*

I love this forum so much.
 

Jumplion

Member
Clearly the best minimalist one out of all of them

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Just the boy, his weapon, the cloth he is wearing, the reddened shirt underneath his poncho-like clothing, with two horns protruding fiercly from the top of his head, covered with a small head band, the girl he is saving with half her face obscured as she gazes longingly towards the side, her hair flowing dowards behind her head, a windmill flowing in the background atop a garden, as the boy takes hold of his weapon and seems to be atop a bridge with the look of determination on his face.

Simple art.
 

Daedardus

Member
I can't tell if people are still joking or not. One of the key elements to good minimalistic design is the use of 'full' colors, having some short of shading usually requires very few objects to keep it minimalistic.
 

ASIS

Member
Clearly the best minimalist one out of all of them

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Just the boy, his weapon, the girl he is saving with half her face obscured as she gazes longingly towards the side, her hair flowing dowards behind her head, a windmill flowing in the background atop a garden, as the boy takes hold of his weapon and seems to be atop a bridge with the look of determination on his face.

Simple art.

It's funny cause ICO is a minimalist game by design and this box art is kind of like the exact opposite of it.
 

kosmologi

Member
I don't understand what's going on in this thread.

Here's ME3 Collector's edition and Halo 3 Collector's edition. Stupid content rating markings... developer and EA logos ruin it too. Halo did it better.

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There's a difference between "minimalism" as an artistic movement and what "minimalist" means in every day speech. I don't think its wrong to use the looser definition.

Though a lot of covers in this thread don't even meet a colloquial definition of minimalist.

Yeah, but a ton of these covers aren't clean, either. I don't need to post an example because all of the truly minimalist covers have been posted.

Haha exactly.

There's not that many examples of minimalist box art.


Yeah its a sad reflection of the culture we live in. I judge games by their covers, but obviously in a different way than focus testers do.

Honestly I wonder what's the point of having a back of the box for some of these AAA covers.

It's kind of interesting that the one medium that does it the best is music.
 

fhqwhgads

Member
Everyone is an angry art student.
If not then you have a bright future ahead as an art student who gets angry.
You can make a start by complaining about Banksy.
 

Lynx_7

Member
I believe there aren't many actual minimalist game covers around, if any. Which is a shame because Collingwood's unofficial box arts look cool as hell. They should at least make some collector's editions like that.

But come on, the TC was clearly not going for the artistic meaning of the word. As for what he was actually asking for, which is basically "clean" covers, I think the first LoZ game has pretty cool art which concisely conveys what kind of game it is.


Remove the text at the bottom and it'd be even better. Zelda 2's is also good, though not quite as much and is a bit more busy.

 

Eolz

Member
Best title change I've seen in a while.
Seriously, it's not even an artstyle hard to define...
 
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