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*SPOILERS* The Walking Dead TV show, leaks, and comic book SPOILER discussion thread

Glenn fakeout and then actually doing in Glenn with Lucille for the win. It's the only way to go. Trolling the comic fans all the way to the end and then actually pulling the trigger after the first Lucille kill.
Just need that last near escape at the end to lower everyone's guard and then... it's batter up time!

Rosita's gonna buy the farm in Ep 14-15.
Abe will sacrifice himself for Glenn out of guilt in the finale.
Glenn gets offed anyway. That's what we're building towards.
We are already building towards Abe getting killed. We just need Eugene and him to go on patrol together

I am thinking it may be Maggie (in front of Glenn)... or both of them. I can't see them having another baby on the show.

I would love to see Maggie go out like that, it would make everyone soooo pissed off and disgusted with Negan. The problem is in that cellphone footage it really looked like Glenn
 
Well are already building towards Abe get killed. We just need Eugene and him to go on patrol together



I would love to see Maggie go out like that, it would make everyone soooo pissed off and disgusted with Negan. The problem is in that cellphone footage it really looked like Glenn
I still think that cell footage was a plant .
 
I would love to see Maggie go out like that, it would make everyone soooo pissed off and disgusted with Negan. The problem is in that cellphone footage it really looked like Glenn

The way that footage smash cut to black makes me nervous. They better not bring Glenn up, have him kneel, Negan swings the bat down, and then cut to credits.
 

SteveWD40

Member
I can't see them killing Maggie. They've been positioning her as the leader of Hilltop since last season

Theory was that it's Daryl I thought?

I would hate to see him go but with Jesus added to the cast you are getting an overflow of bad-ass, invincible killers.
 

Lashley

Why does he wear the mask!?
Those victim pictures were fucked up. You just know Nicotero is going to go all out with the effects when the moment comes.

Yeah, I think the final one with the hoodie on was the kid Jesus told us about too, when he said Negan wanted them to "Know, right off the bat".
 
Same. I'm morbidly excited, but I'm also fucking terrified.

Lucille is a scary motherfucker.

I got over the impact of Negan's introduction years ago. So now I'm just excited to see the character on screen, but also nervous that he won't match up to all the hype, or even what I expect.
 

UberTag

Member
We are already building towards Abe getting killed. We just need Eugene and him to go on patrol together
Abe isn't getting the Dwight crossbow kill in the show. He's still seen taping with the others heading into the finale scene with Negan.

Michael Cudlitz is still seen taping with the others heading into the Lucille introduction in the finale.

Why Rosita now instead of Tara? I thought Rosita had been seen filming around the finale.
Christian Serratos was seen filming in the penultimate episode of the season... but not during the finale. There's some kind of death fakeout to close out Episode 15 that seems to indicate they want to tease Daryl getting shot but it might well be her instead.

The "instead of Tara" actually pertains to the Dwight crossbow kill... but that's not reserved for Rosita (she's still alive after it happens). Seems more likely now that Denise gets the arrow which explains all of those awkward "fetch me shit" bonding scenes she had with Daryl during Episodes 10 and 11 in an otherwise packed back half of Season 6.
 
It's a nice idea, just poor execution, in my opinion. Denise seems cool, but not only have they not spent enough time with each other (on screen), the audience doesn't even know who she is yet; there hasn't been much development.

To be fair, the exact same thing happened with Tara's love interest in season 4 (Alicia?). They show the pair holding hands in one scene, just a short while after the Governor and Chalmers family arrive at the camp with Mitch and the others.

Considering that the show went out of its way to reference how perturbed Tara is by Rick acting like the Governor when he did his speech in the last episode, I'm fairly sure that her jumping into relationships quickly is part of the character.
 

wenis

Registered for GAF on September 11, 2001.
I got over the impact of Negan's introduction years ago. So now I'm just excited to see the character on screen, but also nervous that he won't match up to all the hype, or even what I expect.

If there were anyone that could do Negan justice, it's Jeffrey Dean Morgan. Everything about his Comedian role is going to culminate in this and well into the shows future. I'm excited to see another time jump in the season after next.
 

dustyherb

Member
If there were anyone that could do Negan justice, it's Jeffrey Dean Morgan. Everything about his Comedian role is going to culminate in this and well into the shows future. I'm excited to see another time jump in the season after next.
Ya I'm not even worried with JDM playing Negan. The dude loves the character and the comics so he's definitely going to be bringing his all for the role. Plus with the writers trying to make tv Negan just like comic Negan it makes me worried even less.

If the writers really want 12 or so seasons out of this show then getting Negan correct is essential. He's still alive in the comics meaning he's going to be around for a while in the show most likely. His character can really help get people hooked and keep ratings good for AMC. They have too much riding on his character to fuck up.

And do you think we are going to get the big time jump into the "a new beginning" arc after season 7? I've been thinking about how long they are going to make all out war and the two arcs before that. I figured at most two seasons. But that seems too much so your probably right. We get the two year time jump after season 7 or maybe at most after the first half of season 8.
 

Leeness

Member
Abe isn't getting the Dwight crossbow kill in the show. He's still seen taping with the others heading into the finale scene with Negan.

Michael Cudlitz is still seen taping with the others heading into the Lucille introduction in the finale.


Christian Serratos was seen filming in the penultimate episode of the season... but not during the finale. There's some kind of death fakeout to close out Episode 15 that seems to indicate they want to tease Daryl getting shot but it might well be her instead.

The "instead of Tara" actually pertains to the Dwight crossbow kill... but that's not reserved for Rosita (she's still alive after it happens). Seems more likely now that Denise gets the arrow which explains all of those awkward "fetch me shit" bonding scenes she had with Daryl during Episodes 10 and 11 in an otherwise packed back half of Season 6.

Praying for Tara.
 

someday

Banned
I really hope they don't end the season on some weird cliffhanger, like we see the bat but we have to wait 6 months to see who he killed. That would really piss me off.
 

dustyherb

Member
I really hope they don't end the season on some weird cliffhanger, like we see the bat but we have to wait 6 months to see who he killed. That would really piss me off.
This is a worry for a lot of people but I honestly think they won't do it. The writers would have to be stupid since as soon as filming starts in May or whatever for season 7 it would be leaked which actor isn't around. And I honestly can't believe AMC would pay an actor to stand around for half a season just to throw off any leaks that happen.
 

someday

Banned
This is a worry for a lot of people but I honestly think they won't do it. The writers would have to be stupid since as soon as filming starts in May or whatever for season 7 it would be leaked which actor isn't around. And I honestly can't believe AMC would pay an actor to stand around for half a season just to throw off any leaks that happen.

I hope you're right. I'm massively burned out on TWD cliffhangers after 6A.
 

LycanXIII

Member
And do you think we are going to get the big time jump into the "a new beginning" arc after season 7? I've been thinking about how long they are going to make all out war and the two arcs before that. I figured at most two seasons. But that seems too much so your probably right. We get the two year time jump after season 7 or maybe at most after the first half of season 8.

I don't think we'll get a time jump after All Out War. I think the show will diverge from the comics with original storylines until Kirkman and Co can build up a few more arcs in the comics.
 

Lashley

Why does he wear the mask!?
I don't think we'll get a time jump after All Out War. I think the show will diverge from the comics with original storylines until Kirkman and Co can build up a few more arcs in the comics.

Best way tbh

Shame, since I'd like to see Alpha and the Whisperers on TV, but I can wait.
 

dustyherb

Member
I don't think we'll get a time jump after All Out War. I think the show will diverge from the comics with original storylines until Kirkman and Co can build up a few more arcs in the comics.
Hmmm possible but with no big time jump then Carl looking like a young man is going to be a big issue. Also with Morgan seeming like he's building a new jail that kinda hints that the show is going to be getting to a new beginning possibly soon.

I can definitely see the issue tho that the comics needs to get start picking up its pace a bit if the show is going to follow its storyline so closely. I wonder if Kirkman/Gimple want the show to end similarly to the comic. I realize that the comic will go on much longer then the show. But I wonder if Kirkman is starting to feel at all that he wants to see the rest of his story played out on television. If that were the case then I could definitely see Gimple going off course from the comics for a bit after all out war.
 
Hmmm possible but with no big time jump then Carl looking like a young man is going to be a big issue. Also with Morgan seeming like he's building a new jail that kinda hints that the show is going the same direction as the comics no?

I can definitely see the issue tho that the comics needs to get start picking up its pace a bit if the show is going to follow its storyline so closely. I wonder if Kirkman/Gimple want the show to end similarly to the comic. I realize that the comic will go on much longer then the show. But I wonder if Kirkman is starting to feel at all that he wants to see the rest of his story played out on television. If that were the case then I could definitely see Gimple going off course from the comics for a bit after all out war.

I don't think All Out War is going to be finished by the end of season 7. There's a LOT that needs to happen. I think they could get a season and a half if not two out of this arc. They also can't have Negan be a one and done villain (i.e. one season of antagonism wrapped up and then he's locked up in Morgan's jail).

Edit: that leaked footage makes me much more comfortable that we're going to get a proper end to the season with Glenn's brains bashed in. Looks like the smash cut to black isn't the end.
 

dustyherb

Member
I don't think All Out War is going to be finished by the end of season 7. There's a LOT that needs to happen. I think they could get a season and a half if not two out of this arc. They also can't have Negan be a one and done villain (i.e. one season of antagonism wrapped up and then he's locked up in Morgan's jail).
That's what I wanted to believe as well. There's four arcs after "something to fear" you could make each of those a half a season. Or you could make "what comes after" and "march to war" one half a season and all out war one whole season, something like that.

And ya Negan is a huge character for the story and him being alive in the comics still means he has a big part to play in things to come I think. So they need to really do the all out war storyline justice so that people don't think this guy is just another governor.
 

dustyherb

Member
I can remember him killing some guy who attempted to rape her too
What happened is that Negan first kills David or whatever for attempting to rape Holly. Then later on Negan deliveries Holly back to Rick and the group at Alexandria with a bag over her head. She's a zombie so we don't ever see how Holly actually died. One scene she's alive later on she's a zombie that's it.

But Kirkman later confirmed in the letter hacks in issue 127 that it was Negan who actually killed her before she became a zombie.
 

Lashley

Why does he wear the mask!?
What happened is that Negan first kills David or whatever for attempting to rape Holly. Then later on Negan deliveries Holly back to Rick and the group at Alexandria with a bag over her head. She's a zombie so we don't ever see how Holly actually died. One scene she's alive later on she's a zombie that's it.

But Kirkman later confirmed in the letter hacks in issue 127 that it was Negan who actually killed her before she became a zombie.

Ahhh, I always thought he showed her a room with walkers in and thats how, never knew why.

Surprised, he doesn't usually kill women. All Out War was amazing though.
 

LycanXIII

Member
Hmmm possible but with no big time jump then Carl looking like a young man is going to be a big issue. Also with Morgan seeming like he's building a new jail that kinda hints that the show is going to be getting to a new beginning possibly soon.

I can definitely see the issue tho that the comics needs to get start picking up its pace a bit if the show is going to follow its storyline so closely. I wonder if Kirkman/Gimple want the show to end similarly to the comic. I realize that the comic will go on much longer then the show. But I wonder if Kirkman is starting to feel at all that he wants to see the rest of his story played out on television. If that were the case then I could definitely see Gimple going off course from the comics for a bit after all out war.

Even after the time jump, Carl is only 13 in the comics. The show's already past that point. And I'm thankful for it too, because after realizing his age, it made the scene with Lydia really awkward.
 

Foov

Member
I think it's very likely they wait for the kill/or show who gets killed at the start of next season. This show has a consistent pattern - every year they tease a big death or two in the finale and it doesn't happen, and then at the beginning of the new season they clean house.
 
I think it's very likely they wait for the kill/or show who gets killed at the start of next season. This show has a consistent pattern - every year they tease a big death or two in the finale and it doesn't happen, and then at the beginning of the new season they clean house.
No way, they're not going to wait to show that next season. That has to be the cliffhanger to hammer the point home. Lucille's victim on the ground, Negan laughing, the group horrified and captive.

And no way do they focus on those pictures like that and then not have the pay off at the end. You know Nicotero is just dying for people to see his effects there.

Edit: oh and high quality pic from over on Spoil The Dead
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UberTag

Member
I think it's very likely they wait for the kill/or show who gets killed at the start of next season. This show has a consistent pattern - every year they tease a big death or two in the finale and it doesn't happen, and then at the beginning of the new season they clean house.
Really now?

Noteworthy deaths in the first episode of each new Walking Dead season...

Season 2 - None (Sophia goes missing)

Season 3 - None

Season 4 - Zach, Clara & That Guy from Phineas & Ferb

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Season 5 - Sam, Mary, Crazy Guy & Random Termites

250
250
250


Season 6 - Carter

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That's a regular who's who of Walking Dead personalities now, isn't it?
 

dustyherb

Member
Even after the time jump, Carl is only 13 in the comics. The show's already past that point. And I'm thankful for it too, because after realizing his age, it made the scene with Lydia really awkward.
Wtf 13??? I mean I guess if that's what Kirkman says but he doesn't look 13 even slightly lol. And ya that makes it extremely awkward......like 13?!?! lol
 
No way, they're not going to wait to show that next season. That has to be the cliffhanger to hammer the point home. Lucille's victim on the ground, Negan laughing, the group horrified and captive.

And no way do they focus on those pictures like that and then not have the pay off at end. You know Nicotero is just dying for people to see his effects there.

Edit: oh and high quality pic from over on Spoil The Dead

I know I said I was done with this thread but HOLY SHIT, THIS KIND OF CINCHES IT, DOESN'T IT? Glenn looking at these photos. My god. I don't know if I could take it. I almost stopped reading the comics after that. I took a long break before I picked back up.
 

LycanXIII

Member
Wtf 13??? I mean I guess if that's what Kirkman says but he doesn't look 13 even slightly lol. And ya that makes it extremely awkward......like 13?!?! lol

"There's always been a limitation with Carl because he was so young. He's definitely not an adult now, but he's a few years older, he's 13 or so, I'm not going to nail that down. But now we can do a lot more with that character, and we will - be on the lookout for issue 134."

http://www.newsarama.com/22357-nycc-2014-the-walking-dead-comic-panel-with-robert-kirkman-live.html

So I guess he could be older, but he's still younger than Chandler Riggs.
 

dustyherb

Member
Do they end with the smashing, or will we get more scenes afterwards?
They need to end with Negan saying Ta-Ta that's the only way I will be completely satisfied. We get Negan completely destroying someone's face with Lucille and then Negan gets to chat with Rick a little bit more saying how things are changing, he owns them now etc. Then it zooms out on the dead Lucille victims body, we see Rick and the group kneeling and Negan saying Ta-Ta. Just like the comics.

Edit: rereading the whole scene from the comics now. After Glenn dies is when Rick threatens that he's going to kill Negan. So even more reason to not end right after the person gets Lucilled. I wanna see Rick make that threat to Negan. It will make the non comic fans hyped to see Rick make such a big threat after such a terrible moment. People will be definitely wanting to see if Rick can pull it off the next season.
 

dustyherb

Member
"There's always been a limitation with Carl because he was so young. He's definitely not an adult now, but he's a few years older, he's 13 or so, I'm not going to nail that down. But now we can do a lot more with that character, and we will - be on the lookout for issue 134."

http://www.newsarama.com/22357-nycc-2014-the-walking-dead-comic-panel-with-robert-kirkman-live.html

So I guess he could be older, but he's still younger than Chandler Riggs.
Hmm very interesting I honestly thought he was like 15 or 16 but he's still really young. It seriously wields me out with what he did with Lydia at such a young age now lol.
 
They need to end with Negan saying Ta-Ta that's the only way I will be completely satisfied. We get Negan completely destroying someone's face with Lucille and then Negan gets to chat with Rick a little bit more saying how things are changing, he owns them now etc. Then it zooms out on the dead Lucille victims body, we see Rick and the group kneeling and Negan saying Ta-Ta. Just like the comics.
.

All I want is for Negan to say that lucille is a vampire bat.
 
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