Mass_Pincup
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It outsold LR:FFXIII 360's version in NPD I believe.
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Square Enix explains why Setsuna isn't getting a Western release on Vita
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It outsold LR:FFXIII 360's version in NPD I believe.
Sumio Mondo
Member
They're making a brand new SaGa for Vita...supposedly. And World of Final Fantasy.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
Yeah, i would imagine that most Vita owners also have a PS4.
HideyoshiJP
Member
It's alright, I've been rejected before, guy. I can take it. You don't have to dress it up. You're looking for bigger and better fish. Let's just be real about it here.
No, I'm not going to go listen to The Cure
ArkhamFantasy
Member
They specifically had Adam Boyes announce the game for PS4 and Vita at E3. Not just PS4.
For the west, only World of FF is confirmed, the others haven't been released in Japan yet or they just came out (like DQB).
E_Darkness
Member
This is a terrible response. I can still play it on my PS4, but it sucks to see the Vita get snubbed.
I didn't get Cyber Sleuth on Vita because there was a physical version on PS4.
I didn't get Cyber Sleuth on Vita because there was a physical version on PS4.
They're coming no thanks to Square. If it wasn't for Nintendo, we would be still drooling over Japanese gameplay videos of DQ7.
I meant dead by "no third party support". 3DS is a still alive platform only because of Nintendo. Square didn't bother with 3DS either, Nintendo stepped in, localized Bravely games and now they're bringing missing DQ games too.
Soo..."Adventures of Mana" is dead? Saga Scarlet grace is dead....or will that be the game they try to use to "kickstart" a localisation? Shitty thing is that I would probably do it depending on the physical loot. I love Saga art 
Also a shitty reply. Also shitty Sony. Also I'm worried. Also I'm tired.
It did and in Europe it was even worse for the 360 but you have to remember that X and LR are different games. Very different.
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As for World of Final Fantasy, still a different thing. It has the name recognition. While we can argue that the Vita base is perfect for Niche games SE isn't out for that Niche money, Nier Automata amazes me and filled me with hope, but saying that PC opens up for a huge market? Yeah right, so effing pissed when i see Trails in the sky SC sales and then I look at some schlock outselling it ten times over. Fucking buy the game people. It isn't even arguable, Trails is one of the best RPGs you will ever play.
But yeah, the potential is there and I'm happy more people can play the games thus helping them survive. Just wish Sony could stop with the one account nonsense. So effing boring juggling 4 Vita systems. Yeah I have 4 of them, I can't deal with account switching. So anyway, waiting a while and if the PSV vita version in Japan gets a patch I'll probably import else PS4 it is.
Also a shitty reply. Also shitty Sony. Also I'm worried. Also I'm tired.It did and in Europe it was even worse for the 360 but you have to remember that X and LR are different games. Very different.
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As for World of Final Fantasy, still a different thing. It has the name recognition. While we can argue that the Vita base is perfect for Niche games SE isn't out for that Niche money, Nier Automata amazes me and filled me with hope, but saying that PC opens up for a huge market? Yeah right, so effing pissed when i see Trails in the sky SC sales and then I look at some schlock outselling it ten times over. Fucking buy the game people. It isn't even arguable, Trails is one of the best RPGs you will ever play.
But yeah, the potential is there and I'm happy more people can play the games thus helping them survive. Just wish Sony could stop with the one account nonsense. So effing boring juggling 4 Vita systems. Yeah I have 4 of them, I can't deal with account switching. So anyway, waiting a while and if the PSV vita version in Japan gets a patch I'll probably import else PS4 it is.
sturgboski
Member
Well I guess this now relegated to steep discount territory for me (outside of some lavish physical CE being announced). Seriously, the minimal effort to release the game on Vita was too much to ask SE, then buying this title when not 50% or more off is too much to ask of me.
Worldshaker
Member
So much for getting Adventures of Mana on Vita huh?
I guess I'll hold out for the PC release.
I guess I'll hold out for the PC release.
I want to know this as well. I hate digital only games.
DarkLordMalik
Member
I think it is up to SE Japan and the interview was with the game director. Adventures of Mana was another SE Japan decision but SE Europe saw the demand and might have shown it to them.
Sony is to blame too, I guess. If they offer support, I see no reason why SE will deny it. But Sony is trying to erase Vita's existense in the Western market before they bring in their shiny new toy (PSVR) which will be forgotten too, if it flops.
Jon Arbuckle
Neo Member
Why couldn't he have just cursed at western Vita fans in the interview, you know, just tell us to collectively go f ourselves? Then at least things would be clear. Right now it's just "we see you but you're not important." I hate the lack of information and the apparent laziness on SE's part when it comes to vita localization.
That1BlackGuy
Member
It's unfortunate but I can understand it even if I don't agree with it, it's business. With that said, so help me if they don't localize SaGa: Scarlet Grace. At least toss me that bone.
witchedwiz
Member
yep but on the other hand..
on vita used sale are non-existant..
there's an HIGH fidelity rate, and pretty much anyone has at all of the blockbuster for the system..
sony, you gave us VITA, don't abandon us..
a new portable in 2 years, and we will believe in you just again XD
on vita used sale are non-existant..
there's an HIGH fidelity rate, and pretty much anyone has at all of the blockbuster for the system..
sony, you gave us VITA, don't abandon us..
a new portable in 2 years, and we will believe in you just again XD
Mass_Pincup
Banned
Shame Sony didn't try to get this on Vita, I don't think it'll cost much more then the RER2 port.
Japanmanx3
Member
Hashimoto laughed.
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
Set-sun-a is an oddly appropriate title.
Oh, my bad then.
Yeah true enough, I'm kinda worried if this, Saga, gets denied how the Community manager that pitched this will get treated. People are fucking horrible, trust me. I'm people :|
As for Sony...I don't get it. All I remember is Move, Wonderbook and Vita. How much they "supported" those so PSVR doesn't fill me with confidence. Already have the Vive coming and the Rift from the KS so having a third headset from a company that bails if it struggles...yeah just seems foolish to bet on. Good for them I'm also foolish.
Then Again I'm also foolish enough to be satisfied with the bones they are throwing PSV with helping a late indie port happen, a port of a game I already played.
And RER2, on paper, has better potential to make them more money.
Kresnik258
Member
That's a convoluted way of saying that Vita isn't selling well in the west so they won't bother.
I do wish Square Enix had given more of a go of it in general... that Pikmin clone thing at launch, then FFX HD in 2014 and pretty much nothing since then. It's a really poor showing considering how big they were on PSP.
They're sorta making up for it in Japan at the moment (like Kagari hinted... at least I think it was Kagari) but it's far too late in the game and we're paying for that in the west.
Oh well.
I do wish Square Enix had given more of a go of it in general... that Pikmin clone thing at launch, then FFX HD in 2014 and pretty much nothing since then. It's a really poor showing considering how big they were on PSP.
They're sorta making up for it in Japan at the moment (like Kagari hinted... at least I think it was Kagari) but it's far too late in the game and we're paying for that in the west.
Oh well.
It would cost significantly less, since the game already exists. The only additional costs would be inserting the localization, Q&A, and certification.
family_guy
Member
I think Japanese translators should be able to edit what the original person says if it sounds like BS.
Gotdatmoney
Member
"We're not saying its a waste of money but its a waste of money"
Claude Augario
Member
Seems like a game that would resonate with the Vita audience, but Square's been shitting on handhelds for years now so I shouldn't even be surprised. I'm not holding my breath for SaGa.
What alternate reality are you talking about? 3DS is getting plenty of support, some of it even surprising. The world doesn't begin and end with Nintendo and Square Enix.
What alternate reality are you talking about? 3DS is getting plenty of support, some of it even surprising. The world doesn't begin and end with Nintendo and Square Enix.
I just don't want the Vita to get into the situation where many of the best games are left in Japan, untranslated. The PSP ended up in that situation because it lost its viability as a platform in the west long before it did in Japan and the Vita is getting there too.
PS4 + Steam versions of SaGa: Scarlet Grace, please. That's the only way we will see it. Any Vita exclusive announcement in Japan at this point is terrible news for those of us who aren't fluent.
PS4 + Steam versions of SaGa: Scarlet Grace, please. That's the only way we will see it. Any Vita exclusive announcement in Japan at this point is terrible news for those of us who aren't fluent.
GhostTrick
Banned
Because cost wise, it's nothing. The Vita version already is released. They still plan to translate the game and it's digital download only. The only cost would be to insert the translation into the game, do some QA and certification. I doubt that it wouldn't make up the cost after 2000 sales on the Vita store, at a 30 dollars price point.
Vita version is a hot mess. If they want to release it in the west without getting pinned they will have to optimize it, and they think it's not worth the effort.
You can add Atlus to those two and that's about it. Out of all upcoming games for 3DS, only Atlus games (SMT4 Final and 7th Dragon III) won't be published by Nintendo.
Ace Attorney 6 too but I doubt they would release it physically.
They have faith in their game, but they don't have faith in the Vita. Can you blame them?
Kresnik258
Member
Things seem notably different now than they were during PSP's life. Ports to Steam just for the western audience are commonplace these days; I wouldn't expect anything major to stay Japan-only anymore.
Claude Augario
Member
And Sega, Atlus has nothing to do with 7th Dragon. And Aksys. And this is ignoring indies. But I'm not going to do this list wars nonsense in a thread that literally has Hashimoto laughing at the concept of Vita being a viable platform with a bunch of non-answers. There are enough half-truths and lies already. People are upset and they don't want to hear who has what support. All I'm going to say is the "no indies no 3rd parties" line is an outright lie.
Cornbread78
Member
Smh, uugghh.
Legit question.
The game is already running on the Vita, and it's already been translated. With that being said, how much would it really cost to transfer the translation to the Vita as well as importing costs/fees?
Legit question.
The game is already running on the Vita, and it's already been translated. With that being said, how much would it really cost to transfer the translation to the Vita as well as importing costs/fees?
Hours Left
Member
New topic worthy?
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
they will most probably wont make a big fuss and move on if the vita fanboys stop pestering them.
DarkLordMalik
Member
I don't think they have any faith in Setsuna doing any well in the West either TBH.
They can choose to ignore them, like Sega, instead of kicking them in the nuts?
dlcnotincluded
Member
I had totally forgotten about Setsuna's existence until it was announced for the west. Honestly, unless the game is in a decent price range being digital only, I probably won't even look at it.
No vita port sucks and I can understand why they didn't want to take a risk of putting it on a system they don't believe will benefit them, but it isn't all that bad. Don't we have other games coming out for the system? Ray Gigant is releasing this year isn't it? The hype is still there.
No vita port sucks and I can understand why they didn't want to take a risk of putting it on a system they don't believe will benefit them, but it isn't all that bad. Don't we have other games coming out for the system? Ray Gigant is releasing this year isn't it? The hype is still there.
I like SEGA's move honestly; it bites that they don't want to support the Vita with stuff people are really requesting (though they do bring games to it like Fighting Climax, the Atlus titles on Vita and the Project Diva games) but at least their stance on the system is clear enough not to bother pestering them over it.
GhostTrick
Banned
Truth to be told, as long as it's not broken, Vita owners are mostly okay with that considering games such as Borderlands 2, RER2 or the Jak Trilogy.
DarkLordMalik
Member
Since you are a dev, can you give an estimate of how much would it cost to localize a game and test it, if possible? I mean there is already a version of the game in Japan so all it requires is localization, QA and certification.
/justcurious