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Nikkei: Nintendo ceasing Wii U production at the end of the year

oakenhild

Member
lol If Zelda still releases on Wii U it's just gonna be like Twilight Princess on Game Cube all over again with a limited run and impossible to find months after it first releases on NX.

God. Fuck you Nintendo.

This is a bit extreme for something that hasn't even happened yet. This is all rumors and speculation at this point.
 

RedSwirl

Junior Member
Wii U backwards compatibility is definitely a conundrum. You've got some really good exclusive games that are forever locked on an unsuccessful platform, some of which depend on an unsuccessful input device. Plus, NX is likely going to be an architecture switch.

Nintendo is already porting Smash. Could it just end up doing that for all the worthwhile NX games, adjusting them so they don't need the GamePad? I could definitely see it happening for Super Mario Maker. SMM could even end up being playable on the handheld NX. Maybe VC emulation somewhere further down the line when hardware get's powerful enough.
 
Wii-U really is the new Dreamcast.

Except Dreamcast had some of the most ambitious games of its time, definitive 3rd party ports and more new IPs than Wii U has notable games in general. While the latter relied on unambitious rehashes of the Wii era, with maybe 2 or 3 exceptional titles per year max.
 
Wii U backwards compatibility is definitely a conundrum. You've got some really good exclusive games that are forever locked on an unsuccessful platform, some of which depend on an unsuccessful input device. Plus, NX is likely going to be an architecture switch.

Nintendo is already porting Smash. Could it just end up doing that for all the worthwhile NX games, adjusting them so they don't need the GamePad? I could definitely see it happening for Super Mario Maker. SMM could even end up being playable on the handheld NX. Maybe VC emulation somewhere further down the line when hardware get's powerful enough.

Emulation man

As for the Gamepad? Support the original, emulate its functions with a 3DS/NX portable

Or just patch in Gamepad free controls.

Wouldnt be hard in most games
 

AdanVC

Member
So this will end up selling less than GameCube.

WAAAAYY less. Wich truly tells you just how much of a failure Wii U is. Not even Smash or Mario Kart could save it. Not even with Splatoon's success. Most people nowadays don't want to buy a $300 console just to have 1 or 2 games. That's the reason several people have told me when I recommend Wii U "Yeah it's a neat machine but no way I would pay $300 just to play Smash, y'know"
 
Dragon Quest XI and Dragon Quest X are the first games that were confirmed to be coming to the NX, that alone tells me that the Nx is going to get more support that the Wii U, atleast from japanese third parties.

I can see PS4/NX multi titles from Japanese publishers who still have a good relationship with Nintendo, but unless NX sells right from the word go, I don't see third parties caring for very long.
 

jmdajr

Member
WAAAAYY less. Wich truly tells you just how much of a failure Wii U is. Not even Smash or Mario Kart could save it. Not even with Splatoon's success. Most people nowadays don't want to buy a $300 console just to have 1 or 2 games. That's the reason several people have told me when I recommend Wii U "Yeah it's a neat machine but no way I would pay $300 just to play Smash, y'know"

That dumb controller killed it. The system could have been so much cheaper to buy now. But they can't cut the price.
 
Man, how sad would it be if the Wii U gets discontinued before with the PS3 or 360. Expected given its performance but absolutely remarkable that both those systems outlasted the Wii and its successor. Who would have seen this coming in 2008?
 
They're not going to ask people to throw millions of their old, unusable hardware into the scrap heap. It would be bad PR. As long as that hardware continues to function, games can still be played on them.

They've done this every time they've debuted a new hardware configuration since they entered the digital era. You want to upgrade to a new system and play your old games on the system? You have to wipe all your data from your old system and move it to the new one. What are you supposed to do with the old hardware after that? Just hang onto it?
 
Emulation man

As for the Gamepad? Support the original, emulate its functions with a 3DS/NX portable

Or just patch in Gamepad free controls.

Wouldnt be hard in most games
Support game pad functions with the NX portable? Christ, I'm so tired of all these speculations. We know nothing about the NX other than a couple of unsubstantiated rumors.

Nintendo. Please reveal it already!
 
Wii U backwards compatibility is definitely a conundrum. You've got some really good exclusive games that are forever locked on an unsuccessful platform, some of which depend on an unsuccessful input device. Plus, NX is likely going to be an architecture switch.

Nintendo is already porting Smash. Could it just end up doing that for all the worthwhile NX games, adjusting them so they don't need the GamePad? I could definitely see it happening for Super Mario Maker. SMM could even end up being playable on the handheld NX. Maybe VC emulation somewhere further down the line when hardware get's powerful enough.

I wish they did that for the galaxy games.
 
So those that bought a Wii U, are you happy with what you got? Are you happy with the 4 year production cycle of the console?
For first party Nintendo games the console is rich with quality titles. For third party games, with the exception to maybe Rayman Legends and ZombiU, most of them were not worth playing on the console. This is probably the most dropped console by third parties. It did have a surprisingly good indie community in eShop. I can say I got the most out of the console just with the first party games.
 

Malio

Member
A few good first party games, Monster Hunter and pretty much the same old shit on the VC as the Wii. I can't say I'll be sorry to see it go...and neither will Nintendo I'm sure.
 

Yukinari

Member
Saying amazing racing is all it has is sort of selling its main selling point short, is it not? The core concept and heart of the franchise has always been arcadey racing with crazy items.

They could have just literally ripped the battle mode rules from the wii version along with the maps and 8 would be the best entry in the series even without mission mode.

Saying battle mode isnt important to the series is a load of bull.
 

superjona

Member
Hmm. I wonder if this could imply if NX is backwards compatible, but with all the weird screen stuff going on, I don't see it happening.

Or they've just given up on Wii U, but that seems weird as well considering there's a high-profile title coming out in Zelda.
 

etking

Banned
This once again proves the failure of the Wii-U. PS2 production ended 2012, after 13 years. As a Wii-U owner I can clearly blame the heavy, ugly, inconvenient tablet controller for this.
 
Support game pad functions with the NX portable? Christ, I'm so tired of all these speculations. We know nothing about the NX other than a couple of unsubstantiated rumors.

Nintendo. Please reveal it already!

3DS IS getting a replacement

They arent going to exit the market. There will be another portable hardware device
 

Anth0ny

Member
Wii U backwards compatibility is definitely a conundrum. You've got some really good exclusive games that are forever locked on an unsuccessful platform, some of which depend on an unsuccessful input device. Plus, NX is likely going to be an architecture switch.

Nintendo is already porting Smash. Could it just end up doing that for all the worthwhile NX games, adjusting them so they don't need the GamePad? I could definitely see it happening for Super Mario Maker. SMM could even end up being playable on the handheld NX. Maybe VC emulation somewhere further down the line when hardware get's powerful enough.

Smash, Splatoon, Mario Maker and Pokken all need to get NX ports just to keep their dedicated fanbase happy and willing to move on to the new hotness.

Kart 8 might fall into that category, but I can just see them saying fuck it and announcing 9 for NX at E3.

I'd like to see certain awesome games like 3D World, Tropical Freeze, Bayo 2 and W101 receive NX ports as well. They shouldn't be lost and forgotten on the Wii U. Just look at some of the shit no one asked for that was remastered for PS4 and Xbone. Some of those Wii U titles remastered and at a discounted price could really fill in some release gaps.
 

NimbusD

Member
It's especially confusing to see given that this is how Nintendo's talking about solving architectural integration going forward:





There's a comfortable one-year gap between those release dates, as well as a comfortable 3-5x gap between the number of Wii units sold in 2011 compared to the number of Wii U units I expect will be sold in 2016. Not to mention Wii's install base in 2011 was several times bigger than Wii U's at that point in its life.

That and Wii U was fully backwards compatible.
 
Support game pad functions with the NX portable? Christ, I'm so tired of all these speculations. We know nothing about the NX other than a couple of unsubstantiated rumors.

It'd be seriously shocking if the NX portable didn't have:

- Input parity with the console controller, given the results we saw with n3DS and their emphasis on sharing software between platforms
- A 16:9 screen

All they'd need after that is the ability to have the portable act as a second screen, which they've already implemented on all their home console platforms since GameCube and have perfected with Wii U.

That and Wii U was fully backwards compatible.

IIRC Skyward Sword sales kind of stalled before Wii U ever actually came out.
 

Maniel

Banned
It was the worst Nintendo console, but that says more about the quality of Nintendo consoles than it does about the Wii U. I enjoyed the games on it like Pikmin and Mario Kart, and I think it was a good console overall. I just wish that it didn't have so many droughts that would make me forget it existed.
 
Smash, Splatoon, Mario Maker and Pokken all need to get NX ports just to keep their dedicated fanbase happy and willing to move on to the new hotness.

The last thing I want them to do is waste time porting a bunch of stuff I've already played. If people wanted those games, they should have got a wii u.
 

Morts

Member
I hate my Wii U but I love the games on it. The clunky-ass OS is a sluggish chore but the first party software has been exceptional.
 

bachikarn

Member
I get why Wii U owners would be pissed, but you guys had to see this coming right?

I never got one because it was obvious it was a huge mistake and Nintendo would move on relatively quickly.
 

ChrisD

Member
So those that bought a Wii U, are you happy with what you got? Are you happy with the 4 year production cycle of the console?

Yes I'm happy with what I got. Splatoon has an embarrassing amount of playtime, Mario Kart 8 was super fun with GAF, Sm4sh is a great party/competitive game, Pikmin 3 was an excellent entry, Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze is one of the best Platformers in years... Yeah. Early on it sucked, but that was my own fault for buying another Nintendo console when I knew nothing was there for a while.

I'm not really happy with a 4 year cycle. It takes at least a year for systems to just get started. Kind of leaves me feeling like it was way too short.

Edit: My first paragraph got cut short in a copy/paste mishap.
 
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