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Nikkei: Nintendo ceasing Wii U production at the end of the year
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You can't actually believe this. Nintendo did that all by themselves.
clevbrowns94
Member
I do hope to see some NX remasters (Smash Bros. Mario Kart, 3D World, etc.). It would be a shame if basically no one will have played some of these games. Of course, if the NX bombs too, I guess they will never reach a bigger audience.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
That pokken tournament pad is going to be 150$ at the end of the year
dampflokfreund
Banned
Finally, I hope NX will be exciting.
Wii U really was a dark chapter in Nintendo's history.
Wii U really was a dark chapter in Nintendo's history.
TwEE-N-Toast
Banned
I can't see the NX enticing even the Nintendo faithful let alone the general public. They better pull something out of their hat or they're fucked.
LegendofLex
Member
I guess what I'm trying to say is that their software support for the platform was always running independently of their forecasts for the number of hardware units they were expecting to manufacture and sell. This was true from very early on in the platform's life.
MisterHero
Super Member
Well, they're not going to keep making $100+ Gamepads for two systems.
Bring it on, NX!
Bring it on, NX!
Reckon Nintendo will close out the "Wii-Wii U" brand as starting in 2006 (with Zelda) and ending 10 years later with Zelda U from a "public" perspective before starting fresh with the NX.
I don't think the Wii U > NX ports/remasters (if any) will take as much as the two GC Zelda games, as many of the Wii U games have pretty good/solid assets to begin with, whereas Zelda TP:HD required a substantial, across the board, texture upgrade (and very well done it was too).
Really would like a Metroid Prime HD Remake/remaster in proper 1080p tho for NX
I don't think the Wii U > NX ports/remasters (if any) will take as much as the two GC Zelda games, as many of the Wii U games have pretty good/solid assets to begin with, whereas Zelda TP:HD required a substantial, across the board, texture upgrade (and very well done it was too).
Really would like a Metroid Prime HD Remake/remaster in proper 1080p tho for NX
Welfare
Member
Lol Nintendo "sabotaged" the Wii U. Couldn't decide whether to play with the big boys and make a next gen console or go with a cheap gimmick, so they tried doing both and somehow came up with a console that was only slightly more powerful than 2005 hardware and had a gimmick that made the console cost more than any Nintendo console at launch.
davidwhangchoi
Member
gotcha.
i know from reading (i actually kinked that article way back in another thread) that it was extremely expensive to produce those controller screens.
Colonel Mustard
Banned
I mean, if it's a handheld/home console that shares a big portion of it's library...they release Pokemon that runs on both devices and your saves (as well as Pokemon Bank accessibility) cross over.
There, a large swath of people from both groups are enticed.
A rather odd thing to say when we don't even know what NX is...
maquiladora
Member
Why would publishers and the gaming press want to "sabotage" a console? This reads like some Alex Jones tier weirdness...
Herbspiceguy
Member
It's not sabotaging, but the early stream of late and half assed ports released for Wii U instead of actual good & original games by third parties didn't do it favors either. It was like third pary devs didn't have faith in the system from the start, at all.
I'm not sure remasters for stuff like Mario Kart, Smash, etc., make a ton a of sense considering they are so iterative in nature and don't have any meaningful single player. Might as well just move on to the next games in their series. Xenoblade and 3D World are good candidates, particularly the former since their next game is probably a ways off, and it would benefit greatly from a higher performance console. Bayonetta could be a good one too.
Frankly I'd most like to see remasters of the GC and Wii Fire Emblems now that the series is pretty popular.
OrbitalBeard
Member
Third parties were privy to PS4 and XB1 by the time Nintendo came knocking (and likely already had titles in development for those systems), so it's not surprising they had little confidence in the platform.
DragoonKain
Neighbours from Hell
I'm no expert, but I think Nintendo needs to go back to the drawing board. Enough of the gimmicks, and trying to reinvent the wheel. Just make a powerful system that can be customized in a variety of ways, is heavy on features, has a really comfortable controller, and a strong online service. Do that, and I can't see the NX failing.
Lol @ potential WiiU owners. Y'all out here acting like these 'potential owners' haven't known about the NX since February of last year. That the WiiU could end any day isn't some big news, and that its stopping production at the end of this year is more time than expected rather than an 'out of nowhere' sort of thing.
This is on top of no one buying the console right now anyway. The existence of the 'NX' is just as "all over the internet" as this news is, if not more.
To which Nintendo will probably come out with something sage and philosophical like 'we won't revisit it unless we can add something new / resolution isn't everything / we don't do remasters generally' etc.
Which over the years as an ethos I respect but equally it frustrates in the sense of...I just want to play remastered games sometimes. If thats shallow, then im shallow. They are sat on a tonne of games that I'd love to replay in such a manner but as a Nintendo fan I'm just supposed to stroke my beard and say I'm happy because they release about four new titles a year I can say I'm interested in.
They are their own worst enemy and with NX, purely selfishly and if they want my money, they need to start making concessions about both what people want to see and getting off their high horse to truly communicate and liase with a healthy supply of 3rd party developers.
I appreciate theyve done both Zeldas for Wii U now, but thats it for a whole generation. Great. I'm not a massive Zelda nut.
SolidSnakex
Member
But that's Nintendo's fault. They once again made a console for themselves rather than for other developers. And if they want to make consoles for themselves, then that's perfectly fine. But third party developers are under no obligation to support those consoles. Nintendo can either play ball or continue to play by their own rules. Because this isn't the 80's or early 90's anymore where they can simply bully publishers around because they essentially ran the industry. If they once again decide to make a console for themselves, then don't expect anything to change as far as third party support. Those developers will just continue to make games for the PS4, Xbox One, and PC while ignoring whatever Nintendo does.
OrbitalBeard
Member
Everyone knows NX is coming. Not everyone knows or wants to believe it's coming this year. So yes, there were still some potential Wii U owners before this news. In fact, we've gotten threads asking if Wii U is worth purchasing in 2016 on this very forum.
Pokemaniac
Member
While Nintendo definitely gets most of the blame, I think you forget just how badly the Wii U was misreported in the media. Even some gaming media outlets, who really should have known better, thought it was a peripheral.
Spieler Eins
Member
Even after the 3DS name confusion was hindering success (i.e. DS outselling 3DS for quite some time), Iwata kept insisting that the name was no problem and Wii U is a fine name. Until he had a revelation in like 2013 or 2014 that the Wii U name and concept actually confused people. So again, that's Nintendo's fault for being delusional and out of touch with the real world.
They should have but Nintendo should have offered a prospect that was, at its very core, unambiguous.
It didnt make or break the console by a long shot, but the name Wii U was and forever shall be a fucking stupid idea.
My intention wasn't to be confrontational. My comments aren't specific to them halting production. The games are more important than the hardware. The trickle of games that they have announced is a good indication that support was nearing an end.
I see you post a lot of cool stuff in the retro threads, so I was just a bit surprised by your drive by shit post. 32x fans not withstanding, it seemed clear at the time what you were implying. Which is why I made the comments about only buying a system if the current library appeals to you. Don't base it on what you hope might come out. You know, like you do when buying into your retro systems.
I love what they were able to get out on the U, I think it gets far to much crap.
Edit: oh, about the 32x, I had no delusions that it was going to be short lived with the Saturn on the way. I do wish that a classic could have released, but I wasn't expecting much other than virtual racing.
RoninChaos
Member
LOL WAT
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I was never a fan of the WiiU hardware but the games were great.
I hope the NX is a significant upgrade in performance although I somehow doubt it.
I hope the NX is a significant upgrade in performance although I somehow doubt it.
Not surprising in the least really. This is modern Nintendo's biggest failure really in the console market and one of the biggest failures in the console market as a whole.
If they we're clever they'd get all of it's hits onto nx for launch. Get all the folk who want to try out Splatoon and the like in with the new shiny, and hopefully, exciting console that revives their fortunes.
But ninty needs to get a lot right with this console. They basically need to do what Sony did with the PS4 but even more so. All the best Ninty. I'm in for Zelda alone unless the console is crazy.
If they we're clever they'd get all of it's hits onto nx for launch. Get all the folk who want to try out Splatoon and the like in with the new shiny, and hopefully, exciting console that revives their fortunes.
But ninty needs to get a lot right with this console. They basically need to do what Sony did with the PS4 but even more so. All the best Ninty. I'm in for Zelda alone unless the console is crazy.
OrbitalBeard
Member
It's obviously going to be both. Why would Nintendo exit the handheld market?
I feel like you ask this in every NX thread. You have to know what most of GAF thinks at this point.
Nope, that's all on Nintendo's incompetence.
Obliterator
Member
I mean that absolutely confirms 2016 launch for NX then
Wii U sleeps soundly on it's bed before a dark figure slinks into the room. Once the dark figure gets close enough he starts to smother the Wii U with a pillow. As the Wii U's flails and muffled screams gradually dies out the dark figure is revealed to be Kimishima who bends down and closes the Wii U's eyes after it's final death rattle while whispering "Good night sweet prince."
Wandering Robot
Member
Writing's pretty much on the wall, so that's that. Good night, Wii U.
Can we have some NX information ASAP? Nintendo plz
Unknown One
Member
Yeah really smart making a console that has the power of last gen when publishers are transitioning to the next. What's worst is that it cost 350 on launch when last gen consoles were at 200-250 at the time.
Them publishers sabotaged Nintendo.
Them publishers sabotaged Nintendo.
Father_Brain
Banned
Barring some magical lightning-in-a-bottle innovation, There's just no hardware comeback coming for Nintendo. Blame the Game Pad or the price or the specs or the marketing all you want; those were only secondary problems.
The real problem is that their first-party IP just isn't that compelling anymore. By that, I don't mean that their games are lacking in quality or that Mario et al. are no longer popular; I mean that, in a mobile age, the audience willing to pay $200-$300 for the privilege of being able to play $40-60 Mario games is shrinking and has been for some time.
The problem is clearly worse on console, but it's also impacting handhelds going by 3DS' sales trends.
The real problem is that their first-party IP just isn't that compelling anymore. By that, I don't mean that their games are lacking in quality or that Mario et al. are no longer popular; I mean that, in a mobile age, the audience willing to pay $200-$300 for the privilege of being able to play $40-60 Mario games is shrinking and has been for some time.
The problem is clearly worse on console, but it's also impacting handhelds going by 3DS' sales trends.
DragoonKain
Neighbours from Hell
The one thing I hated about the Wii U Pro Controller was why in the hell did they put the right stick up top and the buttons below it? It's so damn uncomfortable and awkward. The only reason I can come up with is they didn't want to come off like they were copying Microsoft's controllers which is absolutely freaking ridiculous if they thought that. Do the best thing for your consumers and make the most comfortable controller possible, don't worry about the outside nonsense.
These things undergo tests and whatnot... how the testers thought that layout was the best thing is beyond me.
These things undergo tests and whatnot... how the testers thought that layout was the best thing is beyond me.
I do agree with you, but some may think that Nintendo will have a separate handheld platform later down the road. Hell, I've even come across some people who think that mobile will replace Nintendo's handheld efforts (their justification being Kimishima saying "NX & Mobile" respective to "Wii U & 3DS"). I just want to get a feel for what others believe.
And going back to the "What do you think NX is" thread, most said a single-device hybrid. I'm curious to see if that changed.
Welp. Bough my wiiu 3 years ago and i had an overall good time with it. It was worth buying for games like Monster Hunter 3 ultimate, Bayonetta 2, Mario kart 8, Splatoon, Xenoblade X and... and...
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Wow um...I just realized that during these 3 years, i played with less then 10 games on it that i truly enjoyed. But it was totally worth it! I think.
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Wow um...I just realized that during these 3 years, i played with less then 10 games on it that i truly enjoyed. But it was totally worth it! I think.
DeuceGamer
Member
I think this is why they never dropped the price, along with other reasons. They knew it wouldn't "save" the Wii U and figured they may as well make what they could while not having to produce a lot more hardware.
I guess I need to start looking for a new Wii U cheap to pick up and put up. I don't expect backwards compatibility from NX and with a lot of hours on my Wii U want to make sure I have a back up in the future.
I guess I need to start looking for a new Wii U cheap to pick up and put up. I don't expect backwards compatibility from NX and with a lot of hours on my Wii U want to make sure I have a back up in the future.
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
I can't help but feel they're pretty fucked regardless.
Nintendo needs to realize that the current level of Wii U and 3DS sales are about as good as it's going to get. They need to start budging their products and expectations respectively and do their best to stay afloat.
The general public wants to play games where you shoot and/or slice dudes and that's not what Nintendo offers, basically.
Nintendo is stuck in this bad place where what they make doesn't sell and to make products that sell involves changing what makes Nintendo unique.
Would be perfect if you can turn off all motion controls.
Nintendo's best system, and worst selling. They better have an ace up their sleeve with the NX.
Better than SNES?
So much this. Nintendo need to come in guns blazing. I appreciate they can only do so much solo and indeed old hits alone won't see the console as a success but if I were them, and all their studios are tied up, reach out and pay decent money to external porting companies like Bluepoint and get killer title after killer title coming.
Smash, F-Zero GX, Metroid Prime, Splatoon 1080 / 60 NX ports on launch and I've bought the system before my wallet knows what day it is and my brains actually looked what new titles are there.
OrbitalBeard
Member
You can.