As stated before, a Splatoon port is unnecessary given how quickly they made the first game. Nintendo would be better off with fast-tracking a sequel.
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Nikkei: Nintendo ceasing Wii U production at the end of the year
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I hear you. I didn't feel the Wii U was worth it at all but hey, I validated my N64 purchase in the '90s with Mario 64, GoldenEye and Mario Kart. Those three titles alone I played maybe more than half my PS1 collection.
davidwhangchoi
Member
maybe not confrontational but definitely defensive. i really don't know what crap other people are giving Wii U and i don't make shit posts. if you're fan of the Wii U that's great but it doesn't change the fact they're shifting focus after finally releasing some decent potential system seller games.
why did i say 32x is bc SEGA did pretty much the same thing and abandoned it after people brought it. I wasn't going to fall for it. if you want to get technical and say X number of games were already out on Wii U etc. etc. shall i say then it's like the Sega CD, Saturn. or can i say the DSi? i'll throw in lynx and neogeo pocket.
whatever the case, i posted exactly what i thought bc i was about to BUY the system, not to personally take a dump on you or Wii U fans. and if that stirs certain emotional apologetic fervor, it's not going to change my opinion that i felt i was almost duped.
if it was about a month later, and read the news after i brought the system and couldn't return it. i still wouldn't be shitting on the thread but i'd legit be pretty upset and prob compare it to the 32x as inaccurate as that sounds to you.
alright! but i will see you on the ps1 and retro threads! i like your ps1 collection, btw!
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
Looks like you're not familiar with Tropical Freeze in the least.
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Deleted member 10571
Unconfirmed Member
Feels weird, first Nintendo console i ever completely consciously didn't buy. Maybe I will, still, before it's over,ut yeah.
Uhh, did we play the same game?
OrbitalBeard
Member
I actually think they would be better off with a Splatoon port near launch with a few new maps and then release a fully robust sequel a year in. They shouldn't churn out Splatoon 2 as quickly as they made the original.
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
Well, that's one way I can save money. No sense in buying a bunch of games I can already play on my existing hardware.
Darkangel
Member
In hindsight, the Wii U reveal was pretty terrible. I can easily see why people thought it was just a new controller for the Wii.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4SYeDArez4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4SYeDArez4
Bioshocker
Member
Makes sense. No reason to keep producing a product the market doesn't want when you have something new to offer shortly.
Although I thought they would want to wait a little bit longer. But maybe they have a pretty good inventory.
Although I thought they would want to wait a little bit longer. But maybe they have a pretty good inventory.
Two years of prototyping, and 16 months of development produced the first shell game that really came together after months of DLC. A next-gen sequel with a proper single player will definitely take longer to develop.
Unless they do an Pokemon Stadium / EA Sports style sequel.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
Member
Draw on the new controller
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
At the same time, the gamepad is what defined the hardware. Showing off the black rectangle that is the system itself doesn't really accomplish much.
It's like Nintendo's first Wii Remote reveal video...it was all about the Wii Remote, not the box it communicated with.
Stallion Dan
Member
It sucks how Nintendo just drop older hardware once a new one releases.
Most of the prototyping was to get the base mechanics down, something that wouldn't be a problem with Spla2n. If I recall, Splatoon as we know it was 10% complete as of E3 2014. With this in mind, Nintendo could get a sequel out by 2017. No use for Nintendo to take their own money.
Splatoon's single player was short but really good. I wonder what they could do to improve upon it when the core concept isn't as fresh anymore. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if they just focused on the multiplayer component.
KratosEnergyDrink
Member
I am think the single player campaign was great and probably the most original game we will see this whole gen. Worth buying the game alone.
To be fair, usually Nintendo drops support even before they release the new hardware
No surprise at all. Third party was never behind the console. The ones that were have been gone for like two years or more. Nintendo simply has to replace it this year. In fact, I would wager that they knew this as far back as 2013 and thats when plans started to roll out a successor asap. Slowly sell off all stock, intentionally keeping price high. The console has never really even had a true price cut, its always been available for $299. They knew it was a bust and since then they have done an admirable jop making it appear as if the system is alive.
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
That's what happens when third parties give fuck all about your hardware.
Nintendo can't (and shouldn't) support two generations of hardware simultaneously anymore, and with no third parties to pick up the slack, support more or less just ends.
Joelstinton14
Member
Really happy with what i got, shame to see it fail commercially, so the 4 years i guess are a must. It'd be foolish of nintendo to try and extend it's life.
The weird thing is, The Wii U system i think is the first console i have generally loved. All my other consoles have just been consoles that played games i liked. But there was something about the wii u i just really enjoyed from start to finish.
Perhaps it's timing just struck a chord with me and i just got enamoured with all things Nintendo. I been gaming since the early nineties, and have had various Nintendo consoles, but they were mostly put aside in favour of Playstations. I'm familiar with their core titles but for some reason the Wii U and 3DS made me realise how good Nintendo's games are.
I guess i started to look at game design and how games are put together and work, and my love in with the Wii U also coincided with a change in taste of games.. or a re-affirmation of what games i liked - platinum games or the souls series, and maybe realised why i loved older games like Resi Evil etc.
So yeah for me the Wii U was a resounding success.
They'll entice the Nintendo faithful if they make the right games...but that's a big if.
I just hope that Nintendo will have given themselves a slap in regards to making games like Animal Crossing:Amiibo Festival, Metroid Prime : Federation Force, Tri-Force Heroes etc in the future.
Too many games being greenlit that they should have known would be major failures at retail...as well as being rejected by core Nintendo fans.
Sometimes it's about timing, if Nintendo has NX Mario, NX Zelda, NX Pikmin, and say NX Mini-Game compilation in its first wave of titles, (all pretty likely) that pretty much sucks up their large production staff units. So you get the smaller core teams unable to get past a certain point. Maybe Splatoon 2, Animal Crossing NX and Mario Kart 9 will have to wait a bit to hit the full scale stage of development.
Which is where some of the DX versions or slightly enhanced ports can come in and mitigate the potential waits.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Fairly happy. Would have been happier if the console had a few more racers (a sim perhaps) and a prime. Oh well.
Why would they put a nail in a corpse?
It had more than enough games to justify it for me. Just like I knew it would. I was mostly not satisfied with the sparse game release schedule early on. That's why it's hard to imagine I'm buying NX early on unless they show something convincing.
If the NX Specs can't offer at least parity with the PS4 / XB1 and provide a fairly familar architecture, this will continue. Developers just have too much on their plates these days to spend masses of time dedicating to ports of titles on unique hardware.
They did it with the PS3 but you could see the cracks from afar and they only did it because the install base was worth it and relations with Sony were good.
Oh yes AC for Wii U...but it's a crap board game
OMG A NEW METROID...but it's a shitty looking chibi FPS.
Hell yeah a new Zelda for 3DS....WTF this isn't Zelda. This is horrible
Absolutely the worst E3 and year ever.
Graphics Horse
Member
Unless you really want the visuals to suffer on an HD TV, then hybrid only works well if it's in two parts, at which point it is probably better to sell each part seperately and give the home side a controller that's simple enough to be sold as a regular multiplayer extra controller.
So that's what I think they'll do, handheld & console based on similar tech but console being several times more powerful to suit a TV display. A bit like the ps4/ps4k speculation but on a much smaller scale.
Good to know. I bought a wii u and the game last Christmas and had to do the waggle stuff for some items and never got a chance to go back.
Not really, since the Splatoon team (to my knowledge) consisted mostly of the Animal Crossing guys. If they already started development on Spla2n during January 2016 (when major development for the game ended), then they should be able to get a sequel out by either Summer or Fall 2017. And assuming that the NX Console & the NX Handheld come out Holiday 2016 & Spring 2017 respectively, that should put Spla2n within a timeframe where Nintendo wouldn't need to re-release the first game. At best, I could see levels from the first game being redone for the sequel, but that's it.
Maybe I'm wrong, but this isn't what I remember of the reveal. It was pretty clear what the WiiU was until the journalists started claiming that there was confusion about whether or not it was just a peripheral.
I mean, they DID do a poor job revealing it and they weren't able to control the message, but I think the journalists were also at fault for... not really understanding anything.
Ultimately I think this is one of the things that pushed the company towards their digital-only format. Easier to control messaging without relying on telephone games via news outlets.
Graphics Horse
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OrbitalBeard
Member
There's no motion if you use a pro controller and I'm fairly certain there isn't if you use the gamepad either.
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
I think that's partly what the NX will address. I have a feeling every new Nintendo console going forward will keep the previous library so its no longer an issue.
And I agree with you. I'm just asking to gather the thoughts of the rest of GAF. Aside from the previously-mentioned thread, most are going on the assumption that the NX is only a home console.
I hope the Wii U was a good learning experience for Nintendo. High off the success of the Wii, I feel like a performance like this was almost necessary. Regardless of it's shortcomings, the system had some great titles and even birthed some new franchises that I'd love to see carried forward. Here's hoping NX is a comfortable compromise between Nintendo's burning desire to innovate and their more established design ideas.
All they needed to say was 'Hello press. Here is the successor to the Wii. It is a brand new system. It is the Wii 2...I mean Wii U. It comes with a gamepad. Here it is. Let us show you...'
What, Where, Why and How Much. All they needed to do.
Graphics Horse
Member
We will never see its true successor now, which would have been called Wii W
I would love to understand that too! These days a lot of people seem to act like handhelds don't exist, so it might just be that.
I would love to understand that too! These days a lot of people seem to act like handhelds don't exist, so it might just be that.
narutomaki04
Banned
Well time to move on from a dead console, Nintendo better come out guns blazing for the NX.
Joelstinton14
Member
Judging by what has been said by Iwata it seems The core concept (other than controller) is that it will mimic IOS/ANDROID in having an operating system of some sort, so if need be they could potentially be quite flexible with what they do, or play the long game.
That's an If if they decide to go down that route.
The console could have been great...if it cost $699 at launch. The idea was just too costly to work, and in general clashed with Nintendo's long history as a hardware company. They should have realized this early on way before release.
I think it could be attributed to the "bigger & better" thought process of NeoGAF. For a good chunk of GAF, this mentality mostly fits that of home consoles. Another justification I could see is those who don't want the handheld to potentially hold the console back. Though it could also be the fact that dedicated gaming handhelds are losing their dominance to mobile gaming, with Nintendo being (to an extent) the outlier in the decline of handheld gaming.
The fact that a 3DS price cut was leaked does seem to indicate that Nintendo may want to both open the $200 price tag for the NX Handheld as well as clear out any 3DS stock they may have, left.
If developers only made games that they knew were going to sell, the industry would be even worse than it is already.
Kagoshima_Luke
Gold Member
$699 US DOLLARS!!