NinjaCoachZ
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Also that Mario Maker and Splatoon are in development but may or may not actually be released, while Zelda and Smash are basically guaranteed.
Right, yeah yeah, of course.
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Reddit [verified] User shares NX info: x86 Architecture, Second screen support etc.
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Also that Mario Maker and Splatoon are in development but may or may not actually be released, while Zelda and Smash are basically guaranteed.
Right, yeah yeah, of course.
Disapointed Donkey kong: tropical freeze is probably not coming to NX.
Just get F
KC when it comes out.Pancake Mix
Copied someone else's pancake recipe
I'm not that excited to buy the exact same Splatoon or Smash game again, just with prettier graphics, and in the case of Splatoon a higher resolution. Splat2n would have been cool. Sure, it may be too soon for that, but that doesn't make a port of Splatoon exciting.
I think Nintendo feels very confident with handheld even though mobile has taken a bite out of them. So I can understand the desire to try harder on console and actually compete spec wise. It's risky but Nintendo does like taking risks.
They probably want to give reasons to upgrade but yes.
or she took his info lol. Pretty convenient that it came out right after 10k posted.
LordOfChaos
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Meaning? He highlighted that that dude disagrees with x86 right? So what does vouching for what 10K said about it mean?
By the way going back to last pages discussion, in looking into it more I'd say A57 2GHz ~ 1 jaguar 2GHz, so A72 just trading blows with it may be generous to Jaguar.
Would you (or Emily if she's reading this!) be able to comment on the difficulty they're apparently encountering with porting Splatoon and Mario Maker? I'm curious to know how that could be the case
Don't buy it. It probably isn't exactly meant for you anyways. It's probably more for newcomers.
I am certainly not one to worry about. I don't have the skills or knowledge to suss something like that out of thousands of posts on GAF. Just kidding
StrapOnFetus
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Hahaha, oh damn dude. Yea....idk, NX might sell better than PS4K, still a lot of OG PS4 users out there. Good burn on him though!
Too many 3DS "big titles" coming this year from not only Nintendo but third parties, they have a good holiday ahead of them there and they don't want to step on the toes of their partners by announcing the new handheld and crushing sales potential.
But that's just 10k talking about lcgeek's post.
And there was a range of 15-30%
I like it. The anime is kind of on hold now, the manga is still going on though. Lots of cooking action lol.
Urban Viking
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Sources verified by gaf. As advised by 10k, though, take the info with a grain of salt.
The user base.
DeuceGamer
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The exciting thing about an NX that's 15-33% more powerful than a PS4 (or whatever it ends up being) is what the rumoured new Metroid will look like. We haven't seen good visuals in a Metroid game since MP3, in SD, on the Wii, back in 2006. That's a decade ago. The leap to 1080p could be mindblowing.
Interesting. Evidence builds.
As for my thoughts? Well, I predicted Smash at NX launch from basically the moment it launched for Wii U and we all assumed Zelda was coming. Both are no brainers and great decisions.
But the other two are a surprise to me. Four straight ports seems like a bit much, though no doubt they'll be spread out, and not all on launch day. I was sure Mario Kart 8 would be one, though perhaps this means that they're further along on MK9 than I thought.
Interesting. Evidence builds.
As for my thoughts? Well, I predicted Smash at NX launch from basically the moment it launched for Wii U and we all assumed Zelda was coming. Both are no brainers and great decisions.
But the other two are a surprise to me. Four straight ports seems like a bit much, though no doubt they'll be spread out, and not all on launch day. I was sure Mario Kart 8 would be one, though perhaps this means that they're further along on MK9 than I thought.
And potentially piss off the current one lol.
Jim_Cacher
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Zelda U + Smash U + Mario Maker + Splatoon. Ok, day one for me.
I believe Splatoon can convince a lot of Japanese to buy the console. Mario Maker is also huge there. When I was there last year, I saw many kids asked their parents to buy the game.
I believe Splatoon can convince a lot of Japanese to buy the console. Mario Maker is also huge there. When I was there last year, I saw many kids asked their parents to buy the game.
she's reading gaf and some people here know that. She isn't going to blatantly do something that idiotic.
Also, I believe she and 10k have talked on twitter but I may be wrong.
60 fps animations for the ennemies :lol
NinjaCoachZ
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She was the first to report on there being 4 remasters in the first place, plus she confirmed Zelda and then hinted strongly at Mario maker, Smash, and Splatoon. 10k reporting on it I guess made her feel she might as well fully spill the beans.
Thanks for the tip!
Pretty much backing up 10K, I guess she went on and spilled it since its out now
Pancake Mix
Copied someone else's pancake recipe
The ports pretty much confirm backwards compatibility is dead.
And that's good.
It means they moved from their old architecture which was a pain to develop for apparently.
They likely have tech breakdowns with speeds and expected amounts but don't know the type, the final amount, or otherwise.
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Good. I don't want Wii U holding NX back. Either in back-end compromises or additional cost.
Ok, this is my first time posting any kind of rumor, leak, or insider information, whatever you want to call it. While I believe the info to be true, things can always change at the last minute and then I look like an asshole who lied. I have more than one source and this post will basically contain things I've heard, conversations I've had with people in the know (other insiders, devs, writers, etc). To make this easier, I think I'll do a tiered rumor ranking, where a T1 (Tier 1) means one source told me this, T2 means two, T3 means three, and T4 means at least four sources or more told me or others the same thing. So T4 rumors have multiple sources and are likely more credible than a T1, but that doesn’t necessarily mean a T1 is false. The bolded parts will be the rumor, the text after it will be additional info mixed with some of my opinion, and the sources thoughts.
Also, while I was writing this short essay I asked my new sources about the May 9th NX reveal date, they said they'd look into it.
Remember, I'm no journalist or english major
T4 Rumors
The NX will be more powerful than the PS4. "By a noticeable amount". From the CPU, to GPU, to RAM. Sources don't know the clock speeds, or memory type or amount of memory. But if the CPU is 15-30% stronger than PS4 as alluded to by LCGeek, than the GPU would need to match that bump in order to not bottleneck (Nintendo hates their bottlenecks).
The Wii U Remasters. 100% confirmed Smash Bros 4 will come to NX, no word on if you can play with Wii U players.
Zelda is 100% confirmed and not really big news
Now here is where things get interesting. One source said 100% for sure Mario Maker was coming to NX. Another source said 50%. Why 50%? Well, they can confirm it's in development, Nintendo is struggling to transfer over player data and doesn't want all courses to be lost. Hell, courses are being mysteriously deleted on Wii U already lol.
The fourth remaster is Splatoon. This one was given 50% chance from two sources and 99% from one source lol. The reasons again are, Nintendo is struggling to transfer all player data and make it cross-compatible with Wii U players as well. It is in development though. They should have all he DLC included.
So, Zelda and Smash for sure, Mario Maker and Splatoon maybe. If Nintendo can't get it working they may scrap it.
Smash is rumored for launch along with Zelda (day or window wasn’t specified). Not sure on Mario Maker or Splatoon.
What's interesting about this is Splatoon and Mario Maker heavily use touch controls and motion controls. While I certainly expect the NX controller to use gyroscope and accelerometers (since even the DS4, Wii U gamepad, Wii remotes and 3DS use it) this may indicate that there will be a screen in the NX controller. None of my sources indicated troubled development of splatoon and mario maker were controls related, so either it has a screen controller or the second screen support hinted at by the reddit leaker in the OP was right and there will be some kind of optional screen controller or smartglass like features.
T2 Rumors
NDA's are tight as hell. This one is obvious. But I just wanted to add to it. While fellow posters like Rosti have indicated how heavy they are, my own sources and people I don't even know have warned me privately to watch what I post here (this was all within the last couple of hours lol). One source said they know more Nintendo hardware people than software people, yet the only leaks they've been able to get is on the software side. Not a peep from the hardware guys.
I even had people asking what the contents of my post were going to be, if names, job positions, marketing budgets (lol) were going to be posted. A lot of people got very worried, including my sources, the fear of Nintendo is real. They are cracking down. The fake leaks aren't helping either.
As someone who just started snooping for NX info and asking questions out of general curiosity for being a fan, I wasn't expecting this much info over the last two weeks or so. But, now that I am, I want to gain my sources respect and so I didn't want divulge their identity or even reveal their gender. I hope this post has gained their trust, and know that their ID's are safe and sound with me.
T1 Rumors
NX SDK's are out there right now and my sources can confirm dev's have them, so don't worry too much about when you hear stuff like nobody has a dev kit yet.
The NX is easy to port too. This is big because Nintendo consoles have usually been hard to develop or and only mastered by Nintendo's internal teams. Apparently, some dev's are having no trouble porting current gen games over. It's a quick process and dev's seem to be happy about it.
The NX architecture is under NDA but is highly speculated to be x86. I disagreed with them on this but they made some excellent points about how porting from ARM to x86 (handheld to console) and x86 to x86 (current PS4 and XB1 games to NX) is very easy, while it's a bit more tricky to go from x86 to ARM (console to handheld). It certainly matches what the reddit leaker posted.
Based off my high school programming skills and some research, it seems like x86 to ARM does require more work, x86 is 64-bit and ARM is 32-bit. But any decent compiler supports 64-bit math on ARM. The dev's mainly recompile the code into ARM, and then the integer values get changed, and fix any errors that come up, recompile again, see if it works, rinse and repeat. It's not as important or inefficient as people think, especially for larger devs. Besides, ARM is heavily supported and the more worked on architecture. So don't get too focused on if it's x86 or ARM. In the end, as long as it's not shitty PowerPC (Nintendo, please, no) it'll be fine. It won't be the reason Nintendo won't get third party ports, if anything, NX sales will.
One thing that contradicts x86, and this is an indirect source, but a coder who works specifically for Nintendo laughed off GAF's focus on x86 and how we know nothing. Please don’t go looking for them, DetectiveGAF, let them keep their job. So, that, combined with ARM likely being in the handheld, makes me believe the NX will use ARM. But like I said, at the end of the day it doesn't really matter.
Nobody knows anything about the handheld. At least, not any of my sources or their sources. Not even sure if NX refers to the handheld as well or if that has a different codename. It's speculated that it will still get some exclusive games, but won't get many console games downported (referring to the shared games library) while the console could theoretically play them all (maybe lending support to x86 and ARM inside the NX, having the handheld guts inside, but that sounds very expensive and I doubt it). The console seems to be the main focus of Nintendo right now and the New 3DS, along with the 2016 lineup of 3DS, has afforded them that luxury.
I hope you enjoy this post and it provides lots of healthy discussion. I told you it wasn't major news, but you got hyped anyways. It's my first time doing this and it was fun, and sorry if it took awhile but verification and clarity were important to me.
Remember, grain of salt.
Come at me, Nintendo.
Good. I don't want Wii U holding NX back. Either in back-end compromises or additional cost.
Meesh
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Was thinking the same thing... As well as Mon Hun...
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I'm only in port wise for Smash, and that's if it comes with the extra DLC.
Not really interested in ports of the others. More interested in new games. Smash is an exception cause I didn't buy all the DLC so that would be partly new to me.
Not really interested in ports of the others. More interested in new games. Smash is an exception cause I didn't buy all the DLC so that would be partly new to me.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Are you ready for the handheld?Are you guys ready for 30% better looking games than Uncharted 4?
NinjaCoachZ
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I am curious about Smash. We know for sure it exists but no one seems to have commented on what is the nature of its port (i.e. straight port? "complete" edition with all DLC? bonus stuff?)
I don't know, it still sounds like a big deal for the NX to me. It depends on what the power of the PS4K vs the NX ends up being but wouldn't people be more inclined to pick up the more powerful than the PS4 PS4K with the established userbase than the more powerful than PS4 NX that's the follow-up to the Wii U?
I imagine Nintendo thought they were going to put out the most powerful console on the market for a few years but now that doesn't seem as certain.
Of what was said about NeoGAFs hang ups over architecture and how he seems to disagree with us. I can say that what 10k is saying is true about what the coder said. Just backing him up on that bit, as other are too like Rosti, Emily and Natedrake about the other stuff.
10k's rumor is very strong.
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