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Batman [Mafia] |OT| The mafia game Gafia deserves , but not the one it needs

Ok, Xam's vote was stolen. Sorian's was stolen Day 3. If no townie steps forward with this, I think it may be a good guess that this is a scum ability. The second portion of this is the part I have a hard time believing, that supposedly you get roleblocked in the following night phase, as well.
 

Fireblend

Banned
Nevermind, too late. Looks like Xam's vote was stolen.

If you're town, doesn't this confirm we only have 3 scum? With 4 scum and just 4 town votes scum can tie anything.

Yeah, pretty much. Even if against a team of 4 we were to tie the vote, they could just lynch someone overnight and make us lose. Unless town still has some ability that could prevent a night kill - Xam's going to be night-blocked so that one's out, which I guess could prevent the mafia win if they get super unlucky.
 

Sorian

Banned
Ok, Xam's vote was stolen. Sorian's was stolen Day 3. If no townie steps forward with this, I think it may be a good guess that this is a scum ability. The second portion of this is the part I have a hard time believing, that supposedly you get roleblocked in the following night phase, as well.

I'm aware that I'm the only one who can verify it but the action makes perfect sense to me. They targeted the doctor this time. They may have had any number of ways to circumvent Xam and the x-shot on it ran out so they went for a last roleblock as well.
 

Sorian

Banned
Sorian
You only get 1 shot
Do not miss your chance to blow
This opportunity comes once in a lifetime yo

You know what
CornBurrito has been acting scummy as hell the past day or so
Sorian maybe you could set him on fire tonight

I have my shot in the chamber again and it looks like they role blocked you instead of me so yes, I am ready. Coppa is still priority one for me if he gets away again. But yes, I'm thinking Corn if Coppa is scum and Ty4on if Coppa is not scum. Also, think for a second, if there are 4 scum, the only reason that game isn't over already is because I can tip the numbers back to town tonight.
 

Camjo-Z

Member
I'm aware that I'm the only one who can verify it but the action makes perfect sense to me. They targeted the doctor this time. They may have had any number of ways to circumvent Xam and the x-shot on it ran out so they went for a last roleblock as well.

why would they go for a roleblock that doesn't activate until tomorrow instead of just killing the doc
 

Sorian

Banned
oh yeah for sure
but he probably wont

The odds are in my favor. You seem to be obviously town now. Camjo is still obviously town. I'm not shooting myself. That only leaves 6 people and we are presumably going to lynch one of them today which puts it at 5 left and I think 4 people are scum so best case is 3/5 scum left. Hard to miss.
 

Sorian

Banned
why would they go for a roleblock that doesn't activate until tomorrow instead of just killing the doc

Topo was confirmed and why kill the doc when you can neuter him instead? They obviously had a way to circumvent him last night if they were ballsy enough to go for the confirmed townie that Xam should have been protecting.
 

Camjo-Z

Member
They obviously had a way to circumvent him last night if they were ballsy enough to go for the confirmed townie that Xam should have been protecting.

Like... a strong kill??????

also temp unvoting since i won't be able to watch the thread for a bit

UNVOTE
 

Sorian

Banned
Like... a strong kill??????

also temp unvoting since i won't be able to watch the thread for a bit

UNVOTE

Or a switcher, or a power redirector, or an ability to make Xam sleepwalk. There are plenty of things. I know you want to pretend I'm a scum strong killer but I have done no action this entire game other than trying to ignite and then subsequently dropping the charge.
 
Camjo
Even though I am a dumb motherfucker
I will have a lengthy explanation for what happened last night in about an hour and a half or so
 
I have my shot in the chamber again and it looks like they role blocked you instead of me so yes, I am ready. Coppa is still priority one for me if he gets away again. But yes, I'm thinking Corn if Coppa is scum and Ty4on if Coppa is not scum. Also, think for a second, if there are 4 scum, the only reason that game isn't over already is because I can tip the numbers back to town tonight.

Actually if Xam was the one role blocked last night why didn't you use your kill?

And then what stops scum from role blocking you tonight?
 

Fireblend

Banned
Actually if Xam was the one role blocked last night why didn't you use your kill?

And then what stops scum from role blocking you tonight?

I think he needs one night to charge and another to shoot?
So:

N1: Charge
N2: Blocked by Kark
N3: Blocked by Joker
N4: Charge
N5: Can finally shoot

Unless I missed something.
 

Sorian

Banned
Actually if Xam was the one role blocked last night why didn't you use your kill?

And then what stops scum from role blocking you tonight?

My ability is a 1-shot strong kill with a charge up required. Order of events so far:

Night 1: I was role blocked by Kark/gryvan, charge up failed
Night 2: IGNITE command successful, infected with Joker toxin
Night 3: Unable to submit any commands due to Joker toxin; charge lost.
Night 4: IGNITE command successful....again, apparently not infected with Joker toxin since they hit Xam instead
Night 5: Will strong kill, can't be regular role blocked because you can't role block a strong kill.
 
I think he needs one night to charge and another to shoot?
So:

N1: Charge
N2: Blocked by Kark
N3: Blocked by Joker
N4: Charge
N5: Can finally shoot

Unless I missed something.

So last night was his charge turn. But now what stops them from just blocking him tonight after he charged up?
 
Ah I see.

Anyway I have a theory. Xam is scum.

Has he managed to save one person? Why are we still believing his doctor claim? Meanwhile he's been on my case ever since I entered this game. I believe that is because I came in with a somewhat fresh perspective, and one of the first things I did was question Xam's legitimacy. Dude pushed the "you are Hugo Strange" thing hard on me yesterday, but despite Trigger saying that he'd die unless Hugo was killed that day, he didn't vote for me. That makes sense though. Scum wouldn't have wanted Hugo to die if Trigger's claim was true. So he just went all bark no bite.

And now that we are in today he's gone from "def fo sho Hugo" to "probs scum". Which is an easy transition to make.
 

Sorian

Banned
Their block ability seems to be a charge thing as well, since we've seen it used N2 and N4. Again, someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Yeah, either that or convenient timing and Joker was just doing kills N1 and N3. Their block ability is also set up in advance so it was used on Xam last night but he won't be blocked until tonight. It's night use, next day no vote, next night no ability.
 

Sorian

Banned
Sorian? Fireblend? You two were just here, but no comments on my Xam hypothesis?

I think it's dumb. I have no doubt that Xam is the doctor and the stalling of his death is a scum tactic to make us think otherwise. I also don't see why scum would role block themselves at this juncture.
 

Fireblend

Banned
Sorian? Fireblend? You two were just here, but no comments on my Xam hypothesis?

I hear you and that might as well be true, but:

- Xam is currently vote-blocked. Vote-blocking one of their own, specially someone who's currently trusted by next-to-everyone, when they're this close to winning? Yeah, no. This vote-block is there to give them better odds of outright winning the game today.

- Coppa is way scummier. This sort of theories would be more welcome if we make it past today, IMO.
 

Coppanuva

Member
I think it's dumb. I have no doubt that Xam is the doctor and the stalling of his death is a scum tactic to make us think otherwise. I also don't see why scum would role block themselves at this juncture.
But you think they would do something that overt?
 

Sorian

Banned
I hear you and that might as well be true, but:

- Xam is currently vote-blocked. Vote-blocking one of their own, specially someone who's currently trusted by next-to-everyone, when they're this close to winning? Yeah, no. This vote-block is there to give them better odds of outright winning the game today.

- Coppa is way scummier. This sort of theories would be more welcome if we make it past today, IMO.

I agree with all of this. Today is Coppa or Ty4on, I see no other option.

But you think they would do something that overt?

What, leave the doctor alive? Sure. It leads to paranoia in later days, no reason not to if he isn't a threat to them.
 
I hear you and that might as well be true, but:

- Xam is currently vote-blocked. Vote-blocking one of their own, specially someone who's currently trusted by next-to-everyone, when they're this close to winning? Yeah, no. This vote-block is there to give them better odds of outright winning the game today.

- Coppa is way scummier. This sort of theories would be more welcome if we make it past today, IMO.

Ah fair point. The vote block wouldn't make sense if Xam is scum.
 

Sorian

Banned
Or you know, lie about being role blocked.

The loss of vote isn't exactly something you can lie about and I know 100% that the loss of vote also means a role block during that same night. I'm aware you might be accusing me of being a liar and fine, whatever, but I know what it does.
 
CornBurrito
I know you're scum
Could you like just maybe try a little bit, even as a formality, to come up with some logical statements?
Thanks
 
This isnt the post I was referring to earlier but
Camjo
LOOK WITH YOUR SPECIAL EYES
Both CornB and Coppanuva (who rarely posts here) both came out of their shells to argue against Sorian after CornB proposed a theory
 

Coppanuva

Member
This isnt the post I was referring to earlier but
Camjo
LOOK WITH YOUR SPECIAL EYES
Both CornB and Coppanuva (who rarely posts here) both came out of their shells to argue against Sorian after CornB proposed a theory
Oh sorry, I wasn't aware I'm scum because I didn't know Roy changed day start time officially.
 
Which I informed you all at the start of the phase. I was in NYC and didn't have a laptop. I will send you photos with metadata proving it If you seriously doubt that.
Quantity of posts aside
You didn't pop your head up unless you were mentioned
Therefore, if you're able to read the thread to see when you've been mentioned, you might be able to post a bit more
CornB also wasn't really here either
I don't expect you to post like Sorian
 
The loss of vote isn't exactly something you can lie about and I know 100% that the loss of vote also means a role block during that same night. I'm aware you might be accusing me of being a liar and fine, whatever, but I know what it does.

You said role block, and I thought you meant Xam's night action.

Idk why you'd say ROLE block on a VOTE block but that was your error not mine.
 
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