StrongBlackVine
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His reviews get more hits than most other sites put together. Plus the usually release much later so a separate topic seems OK.
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Angry Joe Quantum Break Review.
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His reviews get more hits than most other sites put together. Plus the usually release much later so a separate topic seems OK.
Bornstellar
Member
You positioned your opinion above those of others with your certainty though. So yes, your opinion of it being a 7 or 8 is valid, as is Joe's score of 5. And if someone being shit at a game precludes them from doing a review, then a large portion of the industry would be out of work.
I think there's an argument to be made.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
So much of this game hinges on it's story. If the story doesn't grab you after the end of the first act then the entire game falls apart.
This is something he always hear when doing some game reviews, he didnt adress that now though.
TWrecks310
Banned
You guys are ridiculous. Accept that he liked the game less than you and so have many others, who cares.
I'm sorry to inform you that most reviewers out there also suck at playing games. Many are in fact worse than Joe.
EDIT - If you don't think that a reviewer who sucks at a game should be reviewing it, what about the regular people out there who would probably suck at the game too. They are allowed to be represented by gaming media, not just the most hardcore who tell everyone to get good.
Bornstellar
Member
I accept that he didn't enjoy his experience. That doesn't preclude other people from enjoying it more. Nothing wrong with me providing my own take is there?
Happy he mentioned the excessive temporal AA blur in the game as a negative (although he thought it was motion blur). It seems to have been overlooked by number of reviews.
I was really shocked at how bad it was, made the game unplayable for me. I couldn't play it for more than ~20min without getting a headache. Even mild moment produced excessive motion smearing.
I was really shocked at how bad it was, made the game unplayable for me. I couldn't play it for more than ~20min without getting a headache. Even mild moment produced excessive motion smearing.
To be fair, if you actually watch the review, you see he generally enjoyed the combat overall. His complaints are mostly elsewhere. I think as per usual he's being overly harsh and seems like he's almost looking for flaws and issues, but many are still valid, especially regarding level design, narrative or gameplay inconsistencies (with time reversal, platforming etc), AI issues, as well as the pacing irregularities introduced by the lengthy live action sequences.
Soldiussnaku
Member
Sigh, I was willing to cut remedy some slack and look forward to buying the game super cheap on pc, once the issues have been addressed to a large extent. I can live with temporal reconstruction in order to play a remedy game since I greatly enjoy them.
But, the gameplay and story issues he brings up are way to large to ignore and puts me off the game. I like joe and trust his opinion since his taste largely matches my own. It doesn't help the cutscenes and story look boring as fuck, imo a crime in a game made by remedy.
But, the gameplay and story issues he brings up are way to large to ignore and puts me off the game. I like joe and trust his opinion since his taste largely matches my own. It doesn't help the cutscenes and story look boring as fuck, imo a crime in a game made by remedy.
We're actually not in disagreement here. I tend to avoid reviewers if I know they're bad at a game or the genre of game they're reviewing. But, maybe people that aren't as adept will find his opinion useful as his experience might be similar to their own.
Portugeezer
Member
His reviews are solid. He made QB seem like XB1's Order 1886
TWrecks310
Banned
Of course not. Funny you should say that though when you just raised the point that Joe should not be allowed to voice his opinion because you think he sucks at the game.
SEGAvangelist
Member
Shouldn't this go in the review thread?
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
I would give it a 6/10, but he is right about a lot of things in the game.
Bornstellar
Member
No, I'm saying your opinion loses relavence if you are terrible at a game.
BleedOrange
Banned
You positioned your opinion above those of others with your certainty though. So yes, your opinion of it being a 7 or 8 is valid, as is Joe's score of 5. And if someone being shit at a game precludes them from doing a review, then a large portion of the industry would be out of work.
Agreed.
Gamezone
Gold Member
Sure, just post the link in there.
Portugeezer
Member
No, no one is going to look there anymore and will miss this. Oh, that's what you want I suppose?
dragonflys545
Member
I finished the game and I have to agree with some of the stuff he said.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Same here. The game just looks blurry and pixelated up close and at a distance. I can't even stare at the game without closing my eyes for 5 seconds. It's like the game is constantly trying to focus itself after every movement.
People that are really good at games also shouldn't be allowed to review them. Only those who are of an average skill level should be permitted to review games on the internet.
Every... single... Joe thread
TWrecks310
Banned
Probably because he has gotten fanboy hate like that before, and surprise to no one, it happened again.
So if I'm not good at basketball, I can't say the Lakers suck? If I'm not a great cook, I can't say that they overcooked the steak?
This may come as a shock, but the majority of the people who play Quantum Break are not going to be very good at it. If you can present solid points for why the game is bad or good, than okay, but saying that someone sucks therefore their opinion sucks doesn't work.
Besides, he said he enjoyed the gameplay and found the story the more troubling part.
EDIT
Also this, if you don't think that people terrible at games should review them.
Not going to watch the review, but when I was watching him stream the game, he was giving the game about 5% of his actual attention, and then getting confused during cutscenes because he wasn't paying attention. Both times I watched his stream he was more focused on reading his donations and acting goofy then actually being invested in the game.
MAtgS
Member
There should just be a single AJ OT.
Bornstellar
Member
There's also this. It bothers me to no end to watch people livestream as they play a game and actively not pay attention to what they are playing.
Well assuming you played through some of the game and those live action parts didn't click for you, that's cool. Personally I'd welcome the format if other games do it similarly to Quantum Break. I don't think the TV episodes would be effective if all they did was replace in-game cutscenes as it would be fairly pointless. However, the way QB does it, not replacing cutscenes but rather telling another related story that fleshed out the overarching narrative from the POV of other characters, I think that worked pretty well.
It's obviously not something that would work for every game, but I do hope it's not the last we see of this format.
Kinda agree, but sometimes these videos bring lots of more discussion(see: The division), and people may be discouraged from going to an Ot to talk about that. But Idk may be wrong
TWrecks310
Banned
Why people care so much what one person thinks about their thing is beyond me. Who cares if they like it or not, all that matters is that you did. Leave those be that didn't and enjoy whatever it is that you like.
SmartWaffles
Member
I liked him a lot but recently he has been constantly clueless on actually reviewing games, rather he'll behave like having an opinion for the sake of an opinion.
Well...this is a discussion thread for his review on Quantum Break. The point here is to discuss his review. Whether you agree, disagree, liked, or didn't like his review are all legitimate points of discussion.
CrazedProfessional
Member
Joe is just shitting on games for the sake of shitting on them now. Both his reviews of this and the Division are just clickbait videos with really shallow points. Literally scoring a game as shit because he can't climb on a particular truck.
QB is a great game and I think Joe is just tired of shooters in general.
QB is a great game and I think Joe is just tired of shooters in general.
maybe because the video game he's playing has uninteresting and low budget 20 minute long cutscenes?
can't blame anyone for tuning out during that
"shit score"
5/10
on joes scale that is average
cmon guys lets not walk into UC3 review thread territory
Bornstellar
Member
I can blame them when it's clear they are trying to pay attention to something else (stream chat).
Callibretto
Member
I haven't play Quantum Break yet, but he makes a compelling argument on why he think it's not good, and he show the video of all the problem he had with the game. so he clearly didn't just saying it for clicks or does not know what he's talking about.
Sorry, but those scenes were very well done, and added a significant amount of interesting characters, backstory, and lore. It was incredibly interesting to watch the story from the 'villians' point of view.
He's always been a divisive voice, it seems... Though, I don't always agree with his perspectives on some games, he at least gives very clear explanations for the rationale behind his scores, and operates on a full point scaling system so I respect him for that.
When I watched this, I didn't really see anything that objectionable, and he clarified that it would be a very subjective review. I don't own the game, and I won't be playing it, either, but it seems like some of the reactions in here are a bit overblown. Attempting to discredit his opinion just makes it seem really defensive.
(shrug) The game isn't getting great word of mouth as it is from what I've seen, there's been no lasting positivity in our stores to help drive fresh sales behind it since release, and it went over with a very muted launch, so if you feel differently than Joe, then put together a clear analysis and try to convince people to buy it, because it doesn't seem to be happening.
When I watched this, I didn't really see anything that objectionable, and he clarified that it would be a very subjective review. I don't own the game, and I won't be playing it, either, but it seems like some of the reactions in here are a bit overblown. Attempting to discredit his opinion just makes it seem really defensive.
(shrug) The game isn't getting great word of mouth as it is from what I've seen, there's been no lasting positivity in our stores to help drive fresh sales behind it since release, and it went over with a very muted launch, so if you feel differently than Joe, then put together a clear analysis and try to convince people to buy it, because it doesn't seem to be happening.
CrazedProfessional
Member
The game isn't average. Joe just wants the views. Calling a game bad brings in more views.
Depends on who you ask. I personally (and the majority of reviews I've seen) think the live action scenes are well produced and expand the story thereby strengthening the overall experience of the game. They can also be skipped so he could of just done that.
People get bothered when someone with a large audience gives a game they like a ton of criticism. Case in point right here. Joe has a large audience to influence, those of which are likely to follow what his review says and wait to buy the game at a much lower price.