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Politico: Sanders campaign begins laying off staff

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massoluk

Banned
Then Hillary better start pulling her weight and actually try to convince people to vote for her. Every passing day she makes it harder and harder for me to want to vote for her. "Not being Trump" is a shit platform to try to reach people like me.

They did and by a very large margin.
 

hawk2025

Member
And yet Hillary in the last debate said she gives specifics about her policies, and yet, has never given any.

Hillary won by working behind the scenes, pumping money into ads and influencing the mainstream media, not by actually convincing people...

A huge amount of specifics are on her website and were given even more great detail in the Daily News interview. Much more than any of Sanders' platforms.

Go ahead and read it.

While we're at it, her campaign has spent less than Bernie on the primaries.

Doesn't matter. You did good Bernie. Time to vote for Trump. Anyone but Clinton.

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Serick

Married Member
This is an election, not an inauguration. He doesn't need to concede until the convention.

What? That doesn't even make sense. I think you completely missed the point of my post.

If he were to concede the Democrat nomination to Hilary she could stop spending campaign money on campaigning against him, aka save money for the general.
 

Cipherr

Member
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Tagyhag

Member
I am really concerned that Hillary will fumble against Trump.

She'll win debates, but through Social Media, Trump will attack her without a filter and it could get ugly, which the Trump Swamp People just love.

The problem for Trump is, there's only so much of those, and not enough of them.
 
I mean, she's convinced me just from her speeches during debates that she knows a hell of a lot more than Sanders. Am I delusional?

Maybe you are, but that's your opinion.
I actually liked here way more in beginning of the campaign. As soon as Bernie started to gain momentum, her campaign started to put their corporate money into false news articles to make Bernie look weak
 

TheOfficeMut

Unconfirmed Member
Doesn't matter. You did good Bernie. Time to vote for Trump. Anyone but Clinton.

Yup. Good thing Trump is as ideologically similar to Sanders. I was worried I wasn't going to have an alternative come this GE if Sanders didn't clinch the nomination.

Maybe you are, but that's your opinion.
I actually liked here way more in beginning of the campaign. As soon as Bernie started to gain momentum, her campaign started to put their corporate money into false news articles to make Bernie look weak

Yea, now that you mention it, she sure did. God damn Clinton. I'm sick of her hijacking ABC, CBS, CNN, Fox (especially Fox), MSNBC, NBC, and so on. She's a criminal through and through. Why do the networks fall to their knees to run only what she wants to say about Sanders? :/
 
The problem for Trump is, there's only so much of those, and not enough of them.

I keep hearing this, but I wonder how many anti-establishment Liberals would cave for Trump?

Hell, Trump was talking up Bernie last night - telling him to go Independent since the Dems have been unfair to him.
 

ant1532

Banned
They always say that.

This is one of the first signs of a campaign about to throw in the towel.

No, no, no, no, you're misinformed here. Sanders campaign is not every other campaign. Don't compare it to a Koch paid for GOP nominee. Sanders campaign keeps on having more and more money. And where is that money coming from? Ordinary people. Candidates get out because they don't have money to spend, Bernie is in this for the policies and already has said as recent as today he's staying in until California. I know poligaf's reading comprehension is sus but the cuts to his staff are about staff primarily in states that the primaries already ended in. love the spin everyone is going for here, it's adorable.
 
"Right-sizing" remains one of the most annoying business terms for firing people. (Note: not blaming Sanders, I just don't like the term.)
 

digdug2k

Member
Bernie has had an easy time with the both Hillary and the media. He would have crumbled if he had as much pressure Hillary has had to deal with.

Also there isn't much to attack with his policies considering how unsubstantial they are. They are more like platitudes more than policies.
What! I think you're ignoring that entire year that the media was completely ignoring Bernie while Hillary was lobbing boulders at his campaign day in day out. Its a conspiracy!
 
Doesn't matter. You did good Bernie. Time to vote for Trump. Anyone but Clinton.

Yep!

Sanders and Trump's polices and ideologies are very similar. This choice makes a lot of sense and isn't in any way completely anathema to everything Sanders stands for.
 

ApharmdX

Banned
I voted for Bernie (strategic vote, will explain if asked), but it's time to call it quits. He needs to stop campaigning against Hilary so she has more money for the general.

Eh, if you like his policies, hope that he stays in and stays relevant as long as possible. November will not be won without Sanders supporters breaking for Hillary. Sanders supporters will not break for Hillary en masse without her showing support for the policies that matter to them.

I think the fear on the center-left is that Hillary needs as much time as possible to campaign against Trump. I don't agree with that. America already knows Hillary, intimately, and her polling numbers should be pretty consistent, for better or for worse. Whereas we are still having fruitful debate, sort of, on progressive issues here in the Democratic primary.
 

LCGeek

formerly sane
Yes, please. Get the off the race already. United front against Trump the sooner the better.

Hahah, I can't wait for hillary supporters to realize they are alone. The delusion of this election besides the republican establishment freaking out about trump is the one hillary supporters have about independents or bernie supporters. Not coming with ya and there's a lot more of us. If turnout is shitty on democratic side and republicans vote enjoy the trump madness.

I don't vote for pandering pro corporate pro israel leaders. Unless trump says he's the anti christ tommorow just stew knowing people like us matter more than anyone on team read or blue this election.
 
I'd say the beginning of the end, but the reality is that was months ago when Sanders unapologetically decided he could just "skip" the South and there would be no consequences. That said, just winding down campaign staff and continuing to do stump speeches feels like an anti-climatic end.

2015-16: Correct the Record vs. Broken Record - at the very least, it was entertaining.
 

Tagyhag

Member
I keep hearing this, but I wonder how many anti-establishment Liberals would cave for Trump?

Hell, Trump was talking up Bernie last night - telling him to go Independent since the Dems have been unfair to him.

I don't think there's enough of those either. Trump also has to convince minorities and females. People can't win through just the white male vote anymore.
 

hawk2025

Member
How exactly is Trump "ideologically similar" to Sanders?

Is Sanders racist now?

He shares awful policies like being against free trade, and... that's literally it.

And even that they approach in very different ways.


Hahah, I can't wait for hillary supporters to realize they are alone. The delusion of this election besides the republican establishment freaking out about trump is the one hillary supporters have about independents or bernie supporters. Not coming with ya and there's a lot more of us. If turnout is shitty on democratic side and republicans vote enjoy the trump madness.

I don't vote for pandering pro corporate pro israel leaders. Unless trump says he's the anti christ tommorow just stew knowing people like us matter more than anyone on team read or blue this election.
Good point.

Surely I should believe the 2016 equivalent of "consequences will never be the same" over extensive scientific polling and basic common sense, sure.

The only impact you will have from trying to take the ball and go home is that no one will fucking play with you and the candidate will move to the center instead. Stew on that, I suppose.
 

The Technomancer

card-carrying scientician
Yeah you have no idea what your talking about. Sanders campaign is not every other campaign. Don't compare it to a Koch paid for GOP nominee. They keep on having more and more money. People get out because they don't have money to spend, Bernie is in this for the policies and already has said as recent as today he's staying in until california. I know poligaf's reading comprehension is sus but the cuts to his staff are about staff primarly in states that the primaries already ended in. love the spin everyone is going for here, it's adorable.

People get out because they can't win. He had to preform at something like 66% or better in all states before yesterday where he fell an additional 60 delegates behind. The path to victory doesn't exist anymore. Hell, it didn't really exist before but with ever one of these losses it becomes more evident that it still doesn't exist

If you're banking on Bernie winning California 75% to 25%, which is what he needs to do, dude I've got like half a dozen bridges to sell you
 
Hahah, I can't wait for hillary supporters to realize they are alone. The delusion of this election besides the republican establishment freaking out about trump is the one hillary supporters have about independents or bernie supporters. Not coming with ya and there's a lot more of us. If turnout is shitty on democratic side and republicans vote enjoy the trump madness.

I don't vote for pandering pro corporate pro israel leaders. Unless trump says he's the anti christ tommorow just stew knowing people like us matter more than anyone on team read or blue this election.
You should feel really proud! I mean, you may have fucked up the country for at least 4 years and maybe even ruined the Supreme Court but you sure showed Hillary!
 

Averon

Member
You did as well as you could Bernie, but it is over. Don't know what I'll do in Nov. I might just vote down ticket.
 
I keep hearing this, but I wonder how many anti-establishment Liberals would cave for Trump?

Hell, Trump was talking up Bernie last night - telling him to go Independent since the Dems have been unfair to him.

Plus he's pulling in non-Republicans. Apparently his primary voter numbers are absolutely obliterating Romney's primary votes, especially after Tuesday.
 

MThanded

I Was There! Official L Receiver 2/12/2016
I keep hearing this, but I wonder how many anti-establishment Liberals would cave for Trump?

Hell, Trump was talking up Bernie last night - telling him to go Independent since the Dems have been unfair to him.
I'm hoping you realize what trump was doing last night. This post concerns me because there are people who think he is being genuine.
 

Guevara

Member
This has been kind of a fun election for Sanders.

He got to raise millions of dollars
Hire a bunch of people
Outspend the competition
Layoff hundreds of people

Not bad for a socialist from Vermont.
 

Zornack

Member
Hahah, I can't wait for hillary supporters to realize they are alone. The delusion of this election besides the republican establishment freaking out about trump is the one hillary supporters have about independents or bernie supporters. Not coming with ya and there's a lot more of us. If turnout is shitty on democratic side and republicans vote enjoy the trump madness.

I don't vote for pandering pro corporate pro israel leaders. Unless trump says he's the anti christ tommorow just stew knowing people like us matter more than anyone on team read or blue this election.

70% of Sanders supports say they'll support Clinton.

Clinton leads Trump by 8 points.

You're the mistaken one, not everyone else.
 

Serick

Married Member
Eh, if you like his policies, hope that he stays in and stays relevant as long as possible. November will not be won without Sanders supporters breaking for Hillary. Sanders supporters will not break for Hillary en masse without her showing support for the policies that matter to them.

I think the fear on the center-left is that Hillary needs as much time as possible to campaign against Trump. I don't agree with that. America already knows Hillary, intimately, and her polling numbers should be pretty consistent, for better or for worse. Whereas we are still having fruitful debate, sort of, on progressive issues here in the Democratic primary.

I'm definitely center left, and do like some (not all) of what Sanders was trying to do. But you're right about me fearing she'll need more time to campaign in the general, but not just to beat Trump, to also start gaining support from the Bernie crowd.

She can't very well gain support of the Bernie supporters until he's no longer in the running... she has a long road ahead of her.
 

ant1532

Banned
People get out because they can't win. He had to preform at something like 66% or better in all states before yesterday where he fell an additional 60 delegates behind. The path to victory doesn't exist anymore. Hell, it didn't really exist before but with ever one of these losses it becomes more evident that it still doesn't exist

Ok. . . ? Doesn't change facts and reality. Aaand those facts are.

Bernie's not getting out.
He still wants california to vote.
He has the money to do so.
His supporters want the same.
 
Hahah, I can't wait for hillary supporters to realize they are alone. The delusion of this election besides the republican establishment freaking out about trump is the one hillary supporters have about independents or bernie supporters. Not coming with ya and there's a lot more of us. If turnout is shitty on democratic side and republicans vote enjoy the trump madness.

I don't vote for pandering pro corporate pro israel leaders. Unless trump says he's the anti christ tommorow just stew knowing people like us matter more than anyone on team read or blue this election.

The scary part is that I'm scared of this happening.
 
And yet Hillary in the last debate said she gives specifics about her policies, and yet, has never given any.

Hillary won by working behind the scenes, pumping money into ads and influencing the mainstream media, not by actually convincing people...

A huge amount of specifics are on her website and were given even more great detail in the Daily News interview. Much more than any of Sanders' platforms.

Go ahead and read it.

While we're at it, her campaign has spent less than Bernie on the primaries.

Hawk already addressed your points but I wanted to add the Hillary spent time building coalitions and building relationships with key voting blocs. There is a reason minority voters especially african americans almost overwhelmingly support her.
 
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