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Politico: Sanders campaign begins laying off staff

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Foffy

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At least Huelen thinks she's voting for what harms people the least lol

Huelen is a puzzlingly fascinating person.

I hope GAF does documentaries one day. Huelen is the first one they should ever do.

"The Absurdity Of Huelen: From Capitalized Threads To Crazy Beliefs".
 
Trump wants to cut taxes and Hillary is a liar. Maybe things won't be so bad after he wins?

What?

Yeah point prove exactly. People like you are anti freedom and anti american. We'd be living in dictatorship if it was up to you then.

This makes absolutely no sense at all. How can anything he said be conjured into meaning what you wrote? You're hellbent on proving that anyone calling out asinine reasoning is a fascist of some sort. Get off your "freedom-loving" high horse and realize that life goes beyond your favorite team, in this case the bernvolution, winning
 
Hillery is a liar but not Trump who just said he was faking being a racist to win votes......hmmmmmm

Trump is literally a caricature.

He's a moderate centrist pretending to be a hardline right wing flange to win a primary. That's it. Come the GE everything he says will be politispeak and his "He says what he thinks" shit will mysteriously vanish, because it was never real in the first place.

He's still not a good person or candidate, but the persona he has now is just that, a persona, a fake to get votes.

And he'll STILL get bummed in a GE because it's ridiculous to think he wont with how bad the GOP looks right now.
 
Meanwhile.



Don't worry, though. More white people going to Trump because Bernie lost will have Hillary quaking in her boots!

(Hint: Trump is going to get BURIED by minorities. Romney couldn't win off of just white people, and Trump won't either.)

Romney had the same % of support among Whites as George H.W.Bush did.

Demographics have changed from 1988 to 2012. One win a mega landslide in 1998, the other takes a beatdown in 2012
 

midramble

Pizza, Bourbon, and Thanos
Dude, you just gotta give them time. The pain over the Bernie loss is still fresh.

Just lay out the situation, and most will eventually come around.

And besides, arguing with someone like that is just a waste of your time. They're basically all but trolling you.

Agreed. It would do the Hillary camp well to calm down a bit and not pour salt into Bernie wounds. Getting angry and calling people idiots is not a good way to win them over.
 

Bronx-Man

Banned
Yeah point prove exactly. People like you are anti freedom and anti american. We'd be living in dictatorship if it was up to you then.
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Romney had the same % of support of Whites as George H.W.Bush did.

Demographics have changed from 1988 to 2012. One win a mega landslide in 1998, the other takes a beatdown in 2012

Romney had 61% of the white male vote and lost.

You need more than that base now, Reagan tapped the well, Bush Sr rode the wave out, but that shit has come and gone in terms of the presidential (it's still going in local elections but nobody gives a fuck about those, to all of our detriment).
 
Minority turnout has been up(not Obama levels, but he was once in a lifetime)

And there are record number of Hispanics registering to vote(I wonder why)

Yeah but white voters in Pennsylvania and Ohio are all that's important to winning the election because reasons.
 
Okay. Cool. If you're fine with some posters telling others not to vote and they don't deserve to just because they don't agree with your views then I don't know what to say.

Would you like to explain your views with regards to:

-a woman's right to choose
-marriage equality for LGBT people
-racist hate mongering
-the notion of deporting millions of people out of the country.
 
“We are in this campaign to win,” says a campaign memo. “We are unapologetic about adjusting our game plan to meet the evolving dynamics of this race to ensure that outcome.”
- Jeb! Bush, after laying off staff and scaling back

Sounds familiar.
 
Agreed. It would do the Hillary camp well to calm down a bit and not pour salt into Bernie wounds. Getting angry and calling people idiots is not a good way to win them over.

Yup, if this is really the end game then Hillary folks need to chill. It's time to begin party unity.
 

Mecha

Member
Just for arguments sake neither did Trump state anywhere say he was going to hurt anyone. People are just projecting their fears onto him. No one can predict future.

Trump doesn't walk around saying how he wants to hurt people, but the policies that he has brought forth to the table would.

I mean I hear Somalia is great this time of year if you want Anarchy.

Actual anarchists don't want chaos or dysfunction, I don't think any anarchist would call Somalia an example of anarchism. Zapatista held territory maybe, but not a failed state.
 
Okay. Cool. If you're fine with some posters telling others not to vote and they don't deserve to just because they don't agree with your views then I don't know what to say.
Nobody is stopping you from voting, people just think you have stupid reasons to vote the way you do. You said yourself you just vote contrarian and want to see the system burn. Meanwhile these elections have a very real impact on peoples lives which you just ignore.

You don't agree with Trumps policies as far as I can tell, so you shouldn't vote for him.
 

Cipherr

Member
Seriously.

Polling has Clinton beating him by 15 in Pennsylvania. Why is this even up for discussion

Source https://www.scribd.com/doc/31011739...ril-2016?secret_password=hF58jsCziVNNSbqOfw6G

I dont get it either. Its like no one learns anything. After 2012 none of these guys insisting Trump will win, or that it will even be CLOSE would have been predicting such a thing because the memory of what happened was so fresh everyone recognized that alienating minorities and women is a death sentence for an election.

But some folks just have a 3 year memory. So here they are, swearing it's gonna be close, or that he is going to shock us all. I'm going to mass quote like 50 gaffers election night to get their responses on what exactly in the hell they were truly thinking during the aftermath of November. I really want to see the people that are making these predictions EXPLAIN how in the hell they thought it was feasible after the landslide goes in the other direction.
 

Hindl

Member
You are vastly underestimating herd mentality and "maybe he's not so bad" and "at least he's not [...]".

Polls are polls. Sanders supporters learned that they're not any kind of guarantee just recently.

You are vastly underestimating minorities and how important they are. For comparison, in 1998, George H.W. Bush won 60% of the white vote. This was the electoral map:


Bush won 426 electoral votes to Dukakis' 111.

In 2012, Mitt Romney won 59% of the white vote. This was the electoral map:


Romney lost 206 electoral votes to Obama's 332.

Minorities matter and they hate Trump
 
I'm going to mass quote like 50 gaffers election night to get their responses on what exactly in the hell they were truly thinking during the aftermath of November. I really want to see the people that are making these predictions EXPLAIN how in the hell they thought it was feasible after the landslide goes in the other direction.

Why? Who cares. What a weird crusade.
 
Someone needs to make a photoshop of the scene from BvS, where the flash appears, but instead of Batman, it's Bernie, and the flash advises him to start courting the black vote a year or two earlier.
 

Slayven

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Someone needs to make a photoshop of the scene from BvS, where the flash appears, but instead of Batman, it's Bernie, and the flash advises him to start courting the black vote a year or two earlier.

People want a revolution, but don't know anything about what they are trying to change
 

IrishNinja

Member
Not coming with ya and there's a lot more of us.

if ya'll mattered, he'dve had the nom


Stop responding to Huelen, guys!!

i'll literally never understand it, it's not even good performance art

Christ, that's ugly. Guess minorities and immigrants don't amount to anything to you. Trump is a racist, full stop. Him and Bernie are not comparable at all aside from being anti-establishment.

because a person having a tantrum online is very aware of their privilege & open to the perspective of minorities, yes
 

entremet

Member
Bernie not dropping out really bothers some people.

Him winning is not plausible, but let the man run until he is ready to concede.

It's his choice.
 

Hindl

Member
Justice system? Election system? Economic system?

All of which requires a liberal Supreme Court, which so many 'progressives' seem willing to throw away just because their guy didn't win. Things have gotten so bad in the last 30 years because Republicans had over a decade in the 80s to fill the Supreme Court with conservatives who would uphold any conservative legislation and strike down any progressive legislation. This is the first time in 30 years that liberals have a chance to flip it the other way for the next several decades, and no one seems to care.
 

LCGeek

formerly sane
if ya'll mattered, he'dve had the nom

Whose ya'll? Not a bernie supporter said as much in other topics. I will vote when the time comes and only if it looks to be that tight otherwise I know my vote means shit for the most part. Only time my vote mattered is when I lived in FL otherwise in WI we go blue for presidents.
 

Thaedolus

Gold Member
Bernie not dropping out really bothers some people.

Him winning is not plausible, but let the man run until he is ready to concede.

It's his choice.

His choice is to possibly substantially weaken what should be his supporters' second choice, possibly opening the window for an even worse choice when there's a huuuuuge fucking drop off between choice 2 and choice 3.

It's myopic and petty when a Trump presidency is at stake. Fuck the pull to the left, it's done. Pull the plug.
 

LCGeek

formerly sane
His choice is to possibly substantially weaken what should be his supporters' second choice, possibly opening the window for an even worse choice when there's a huuuuuge fucking drop off between choice 2 and choice 3.

It's myopic and petty when a Trump presidency is at stake. Fuck the pull to the left, it's done. Pull the plug.

I'm more amazed sanders seems two faced and petty on this despite all his rhetoric. This is usually something I usually say about trump and hillary. What I saw on MSNBC yesterday is the face of man content to let those around him sink hillary or worse himself by his vague and accusatory positions. Was amazed at the dodging, he really is a politcian underneath at times.
 

BanGy.nz

Banned
Another signal that he's transitioning back into a message candidate. He just needs to stop the jabs at Clinton character and it'll be complete.
Go on. Elaborate on what you intend to revolt against in detail. And the alternative practical implementable solutions you propose.
We're going to tap on Paul Ryan's office window until everything fixed.
 

Arnie7

Banned
Would you like to explain your views with regards to:

-a woman's right to choose
-marriage equality for LGBT people
-racist hate mongering
-the notion of deporting millions of people out of the country.

- yes pro choice, women's body her decision.
- yes equality for all. Marriage for all no matter of gender if you love someone.
- no to hate mongering
- up to country to decide immigration policy. I'm pro-migration in all forms. Human right to find better life for you and your family. Nobody has right to deny that.
 

Kinyou

Member
If everyone who wanted Bernie voted Green it would absolutely achieve something major.

It'd allow Trump to win or Paul Ryan and the GOP to select the next President

A proud historical moment that would be.

Also it would send a message that anti-vaxxers are legit. So yay being pro vaccines cause autism I guess.
The USA with its two party system is so damn stupid.
 
Folks realized President isn't a god king, I wish Obama was. Dude would have been magical.

The picture of a Sanders presidency is funny to me, though.

Just the image in my head of him sitting on his ass while Congress bitches about doing nothing looking around like "You need water or something? Nah? You good?" and looking a mixture of bored out of his mind and sad.
 

Miles X

Member
I want him to run through May, and drop out just before Cali so Hillary can claim enough delegates not to even have to rely on supers, so that it's a done deal with no backlash from Bernie supporters.
 

danm999

Member
Justice system? Election system? Economic system?

None of them is really the bailiwick of the POTUS. You need to change Congress, State and Local governments, the Supreme Court and probably Democratic and Republican Party rules for each of these.

Let's just say the grassroots efforts to change these from the Sanders campaign have been, uh, leaving a little to be desired on that front.
 
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