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Wkd BO 0429-050116 - Winter (Soldier & Super Friends) is coming... does $200m+ WW

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3N16MA

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So it's going to be Jungle Book over Alice Through the Looking Glass in 2016. Unless we expect the sequel to grow which will be tough.
 
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Finaj

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I imagine a lot of furries were spoiled with Zootopia. Frankly, I think it's better to see that film for a 2nd or 3rd time over Ratchet and Clank.
 
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Alex_Mexico

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crimzonflame said:
Batman v Superman made $863M. Isnt that good?
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It's crazy when you think how two Batman solo flicks from the last decade surpassed $1 billion and the first live action film to ever feature the two most famous superheroes of all time doesn't.

BvS is not a financial failure but certainly a dissapointment
 
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johnny956

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AquaWateria said:
Seriously if you're going to make a Ratchet and Clank movie at least fucking market it a lot. I barely saw any marketing for this movie. Like why would you expect people to see it if they don't know it.

They really wanted this movie to die. The marketing strategy was pretty shit. It could of done well if it was produced competently.
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Budget was under $20 million for the movie. But yea it still did pretty bad even for that budget
 
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hodayathink

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AquaWateria said:
Seriously if you're going to make a Ratchet and Clank movie at least fucking market it a lot. I barely saw any marketing for this movie. Like why would you expect people to see it if they don't know it.

They really wanted this movie to die. The marketing strategy was pretty shit. It could of done well if it was produced competently.
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At some point you have to realize that you have a dud and just leave it as what it is. Advertising a movie you realize doesn't have that much of an audience (even if you can get them aware of it) can end as just sending good money after bad.
 
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AquaWateria

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hodayathink said:
At some point you have to realize that you have a dud and just leave it as what it is. Advertising a movie you realize doesn't have that much of an audience (even if you can get them aware of it) can end as just sending good money after bad.
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There could of been an audience for Ratchet and Clank. It's just that the way they went about things was half ass.
 
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kswiston

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It looks like The Jungle Book will end up with about $150M in China.

Disney is having a great year there so far. They will break $500M in China before Civil War (off of TFA, Zootopia, and The Jungle Book) releases.
 
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BumRush

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kswiston said:
It looks like The Jungle Book will end up with about $150M in China.

Disney is having a great year there so far. They will break $500M in China before Civil War (off of TFA, Zootopia, and The Jungle Book) releases.
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What are you thinking CW will do there? Things have changed sooooo much in china (box office) over the last couple years.
 
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Son Of D

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kswiston said:
It looks like The Jungle Book will end up with about $150M in China.

Disney is having a great year there so far. They will break $500M in China before Civil War (off of TFA, Zootopia, and The Jungle Book) releases.
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Is it unrealistic to expect Jungle Book to reach $1 billion? Or will Civil War hurt the legs too much?
 
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kswiston

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BumRush said:
What are you thinking CW will do there? Things have changed sooooo much in china (box office) over the last couple years.
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I am going to stick with $200M for now since we have had a lot of recent Hollywood films come in lower than expected, but I wouldn't be at all surprised to see it surpass Age of Ultron, which was in the mid $230s.
 
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Pachimari

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Sad to see a Ratchet & Clank movie not doing well. But at least I got my Batman v Superman prediction right of $800m WW.

I hope Civil War surpases the 1b mark, it's such a great film.
 
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kswiston

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Lucas said:
Is it unrealistic to expect Jungle Book to reach $1 billion? Or will Civil War hurt the legs too much?
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It still made $58M overseas this weekend despite competition from Civil War in over half its markets.

I don't think $1B is locked, but it's certainly not impossible. $900M is a lock. Late legs and the film's gross in South Korea and Japan will decide how much higher than that it reaches.

Madridista said:
Sad to see a Ratchet & Clank movie not doing well. But at least I got my Batman v Superman prediction right of $800m WW.

I hope Civil War surpases the 1b mark, it's such a great film.
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There's zero chance that Civil War misses $1B. It's pacing ahead of two Marvel films that did more than $800M overseas and only slightly behind AoU which did $940M overseas (and was really frontloaded). That doesn't even factor in domestic.
 
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hodayathink

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AquaWateria said:
There could of been an audience for Ratchet and Clank. It's just that the way they went about things was half ass.
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Are we talking about just the marketing, or the making of the movie in general? Because if I'm to believe the MC/RT scores as indicative of the quality of the movie, I don't know how much of an audience there was for this specific version of Ratchet and Clank.
 
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CaviarMeths

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Wilsongt said:
You mean children didn't flock to a movie based on a video game? Shocker.

The makers of R and C probably thought they could siphon off some of that furry money from Zootopia.
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Or they thought that a cheap AF movie that comes out around the same time of the game would be a decent way to advertise. They're probably not wrong.
 
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wachie

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Wilsongt said:
You mean children didn't flock to a movie based on a video game? Shocker.

The makers of R and C probably thought they could siphon off some of that furry money from Zootopia.
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This makes so much sense, Sony looked at how Zootopia opened and was loved that they quickly churned ot R&C to cash in on that craze. It all makes so much sense!
 
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PhoncipleBone

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shagg_187 said:
Poor BvS.
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Dear BvS,
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kswiston

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To help dispel the "hope it makes it to $1B talk for Civil War, here are the individual territory numbers that BOM has listed, along with the first weekend numbers for BvS in the same territories.

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			Civil War	Batman v Superman
Australia		$10,900,000	$9,884,250
Brazil			$12,300,000	$10,607,133
France			$10,100,000	$8,600,000
Germany			$8,100,000	$6,949,925
Hong Kong		$6,800,000	$3,975,478
Japan			$7,100,000	$3,288,349
Malaysia		$5,100,000	$5,100,000
Mexico			$20,600,000	$12,256,287
Philippines		$7,500,000	$3,700,000
South Korea		$28,900,000	$8,486,121
Spain			$4,400,000	$3,182,560
Taiwan			$8,100,000	$5,250,000
Thailand		$6,000,000	$2,256,551
United Kingdom		$20,500,000	$20,671,286

TOTAL			$156,400,000	$104,207,940

Openings between the films are comparable in Europe (where BvS benefited from Christian holidays), but Asia and Mexico isn't even close.

Civil War's first international weekend was about $60M lower than BvS' first weekend. And that's without China, Italy, Argentina, New Zealand, Russia, India, and a bunch of smaller territories which added over $80M to BvS' first international weekend of ~$260M. If Civil War had a global launch like BvS did, I think it would have landed somewhere between $300-350M internationally (add whatever it does in its domestic OW to that).

BvS went on to have extremely shitty legs. However, it still managed to make ~$540M overseas.

If we lowball the domestic gross at $400M, Civil War only needs to beat that by $60M to hit $1B. Not much more than the opening weekend difference listed in the handful of territories above.

Over $1.5B is much more likely than under $1B.
 
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Replicant

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kswiston said:
To help dispel the "hope it makes it to $1B talk for Civil War, here are the individual territory numbers that BOM has listed, along with the first week numbers for BvS in the same territories.

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			Civil War	Batman v Superman
Australia		$10,900,000	$9,884,250
Brazil			$12,300,000	$10,607,133
France			$10,100,000	$8,600,000
Germany			$8,100,000	$6,949,925
Hong Kong		$6,800,000	$3,975,478
Japan			$7,100,000	$3,288,349
Malaysia		$5,100,000	$5,100,000
Mexico			$20,600,000	$12,256,287
Philippines		$7,500,000	$3,700,000
South Korea		$28,900,000	$8,486,121
Spain			$4,400,000	$3,182,560
Taiwan			$8,100,000	$5,250,000
Thailand		$6,000,000	$2,256,551
United Kingdom		$20,500,000	$20,671,286

TOTAL			$156,400,000	$104,207,940

Openings between the films are comparable Europe (where BvS benefited from Christian holidays), but Asia and Mexico isn't even close.
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I was one of the few who said that but I genuinely had no idea how powerful CW was going to perform in the non-US market. But yeah, in Australia alone it defeated BvS' first week number.

PhoncipleBone said:
Jesus. Asia really loves their Avengers.
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Yeah, no kidding. That South Korean number..... o_O;
 
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BLACKLAC

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SK total for BvS was 23 million iirc...

Edit: 16 mil? Pfff hahaha

Disney: "Asia don't give a shit about SW, release the Marvel"
 
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