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GTX 1080 8GB GDDR5X and GTX 1070 8GB GDDR5 available by June 2016

I'm still cool with my 660ti. Everything (Fallout 4, Witcher 3, Street Fighter V, ect..) still runs great and looks great and still beats the consoles.

I guess the Oculus and Vive would be the things that force me to upgrade?

660ti is ballpark of the PS4 from memory. I'd probably be feeling the bern to upgrade, as some games even struggle on the 770 2gb although even a 1060 should demolish your current setup when it comes out.
 

petran79

Banned
I'm still cool with my 660ti. Everything (Fallout 4, Witcher 3, Street Fighter V, ect..) still runs great and looks great and still beats the consoles.

I guess the Oculus and Vive would be the things that force me to upgrade?

I have the normal 660 and I am fine with it. SFV runs smoothly with the ini tweaks.With a 6 year old i3 560 CPU, unoverclocked. I have just an 1080p monitor. Not interested in VR and 4k. Though I am mostly into emulators and 2(.5)D games, so a 660 is more than enough. Looking forward to upgrade the CPU and motherboard. An overclocked Intel 8 core is probably the best for my needs. I also use Ubuntu and sometimes compile some applications.
 

jdstorm

Banned
I have the normal 660 and I am fine with it. SFV runs smoothly with the ini tweaks.With a 6 year old i3 560 CPU, unoverclocked. I have just an 1080p monitor. Not interested in VR and 4k. Though I am mostly into emulators and 2(.5)D games, so a 660 is more than enough. Looking forward to upgrade the CPU and motherboard. An overclocked Intel 8 core is probably the best for my needs. I also use Ubuntu and sometimes compile some applications.

could you recomend a few good 2.5D games.
 

Trojan X

Banned
Btw if my monitor is capable of 75hz, is there anything I should be doing to improve FPS or anything?
Fps unlock for full 75fp but check your resolution acceptance. E.g. your monitor might be 75hz for 1080p but 59.97 for higher resolution (which leads to a slight stutter on games). Other than that, 75fps is the highest you can go until you get a better monitor.

Other people, please feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
 

DMTripper

Member
Guys I have a cooler master elite 130 ITX case. Currently I have a GTX 960 2g card. Which of these new cards could I fit in my case? I was told I could get a 970 in it OK with my current power supply etc.

Also I'm in the UK. Are we gonna get rip off pricing? Thanks :)
 
I'm still on a 2GB 670, which is still going pretty strong four years after the fact. As long as a game is fairly well optimised I can still hang at 1080p 30 on High-ish settings (sometimes even 60FPS), it's just that I don't have the power to brute force my way through bad ports.

I don't see myself upgrading my monitor until I can get a 4K 144Hz one with a good panel without selling a kidney, so I'll probably be at 1080p for a few years yet. At this point I think I'm going to be watching used 970 prices once these new cards come out, and then go for a more substantial upgrade further on down the line.
 

dr_rus

Member
I still think the game will end up running better on AMD and be part of their gaming program like many Battlefield before it.

Unless Nvidia Pascal is much closer to the GCN than many of us anticipate.
Latest FB3 games are running fine on Maxwell mostly, it's Kepler cards that are struggling in them. Pascal won't be in any way closer to GCN but they will close off the flops difference probably - which should be enough to be faster or on par with GCN.
 

Kezen

Banned
Latest FB3 games are running fine on Maxwell mostly, it's Kepler cards that are struggling in them. Pascal won't be in any way closer to GCN but they will close off the flops difference probably - which should be enough to be faster or on par with GCN.

Yes FB3 games run well on Nvidia hardware but arguably better on AMD. I don't expect BF5 to be any different unless DICE optimize more for Nvidia cards.
 
Yes FB3 games run well on Nvidia hardware but arguably better on AMD. I don't expect BF5 to be any different unless DICE optimize more for Nvidia cards.

Mirrors Edge doesn't do that great on AMD GPUs

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Kezen

Banned
Mirrors Edge doesn't do that great on AMD GPUs

me_1080p_ultra.png

Let's wait until the final version is there. It's a Frostbite 3 games, why would it suddenly run as well on Kepler/Maxwell as on GCN ? I think there are hardware reasons why that happens but at the same time the gap seems very large in most cases, which makes me believe they have not pushed Nvidia cards as much as they could have.
It's possible your benchmark scene is CPU bound which could favor Nvidia and their lightweight drivers.

Anyway, I'm not fussed about it at all, as long as it runs well enough on Nvidia.
 

dr_rus

Member
Yes FB3 games run well on Nvidia hardware but arguably better on AMD. I don't expect BF5 to be any different unless DICE optimize more for Nvidia cards.

As I've said, this is mostly true for Kepler cards, Maxwell cards are doing ok in all recent FB3 titles.
 
660ti is ballpark of the PS4 from memory. I'd probably be feeling the bern to upgrade, as some games even struggle on the 770 2gb although even a 1060 should demolish your current setup when it comes out.
I have a laptop with a 960 in it and while I see a difference in some games, it's nothing crazy like a generational gap or anything, so I still primarily game on my desktop with the 660ti in it.

You know what though, I just thought about it and I'm not really sensitive to framerates either (grew up playing on consoles) so that may also be why I'm cool with the 660ti.
 
I have a laptop with a 960 in it and while I see a difference in some games, it's nothing crazy like a generational gap or anything, so I still primarily game on my desktop with the 660ti in it.

You know what though, I just thought about it and I'm not really sensitive to framerates either (grew up playing on consoles) so that may also be why I'm cool with the 660ti.

Do you mean 960m? Because the 660ti isn't much different from that as far as I know.
 
Do you mean 960m? Because the 660ti isn't much different from that as far as I know.
I didn't know that. Well that makes sense then. It is better but I'm not blown away. I thought I had a top tier card for a laptop. What's the best laptop GTX?

I guess I need to see what a true 980 or this new 1080 can do. I'm still just fine with my 660ti for now but I guess I'm coming from a place of bliss ignorance.
 

Kieli

Member
I didn't know that. Well that makes sense then. It is better but I'm not blown away. I thought I had a top tier card for a laptop. What's the best laptop GTX?

I guess I need to see what a true 980 or this new 1080 can do. I'm still just fine with my 660ti for now but I guess I'm coming from a place of bliss ignorance.

Nah, 960M is the minimum recommended for a laptop to be a gaming laptop.

It is about par with a 750 Ti; so it delivers close to console performance.
 

xHiryu

Member
I'm still cool with my 660ti. Everything (Fallout 4, Witcher 3, Street Fighter V, ect..) still runs great and looks great and still beats the consoles.

I guess the Oculus and Vive would be the things that force me to upgrade?

I dont know how you do it, but my 680 is irritating me. I'll end up waiting for the xx80 Ti version for max performance, whenever that drops...
 
GAF, I guess the same question comes over and over again in this thread but I'll ask it again : is a Xeon processor a valid alternative to an i5 CPU ? I am purchasing parts for a Z170 build with a GTX 970 I got for cheap. I am wondering what budget CPU would go well with it -- i5-6500K is a bit pricy for my budget.
 

Gruso

Member
Think I should upgrade 980 when gaming at 1080p?
From a 980? No. I'm on a 970 at 1080p and I think there's still a couple of good years in it. I downsample a lot of things too.

I'll upgrade when I go higher res, but my 1080p G-sync monitor is still pretty new. I do recommend one of those!
 

dr_rus

Member
I never disputed that but I do recall Nvidia cards failing to match the competition in Battlefront.

Battlefront is an odd one as it's the only one where Maxwell cards kinda fall behind their 300 series counterparts. But even there the gap is very small:
http://www.techspot.com/articles-info/1096/bench/1440p.png - 3 fps for 970 vs 390, 4 fps for 960 vs 380
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/star-wars-battlefront-performance-benchmark,4382.html - same here basically
 

Kezen

Banned
Battlefront is an odd one as it's the only one where Maxwell cards kinda fall behind their 300 series counterparts. But even there the gap is very small:
http://www.techspot.com/articles-info/1096/bench/1440p.png - 3 fps for 970 vs 390, 4 fps for 960 vs 380
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/star-wars-battlefront-performance-benchmark,4382.html - same here basically

Hum. This is strange, I remember looking at benchmarks which did not put Nvidia's offerings in a good light.

Maybe it was at 4k.
 

wazoo

Member
I have to wonder if NVIDIA didn't hurt itself by making 970 such a great value for money card...

Long term, no. They gained marketshare like never before at a time where they also launched Gsync monitors. Of course, now expectations are also high for the next line.
 

TheChamp

Member
URGGH my graphics card picks now to start dying.... not sure I can survive 2 months with a card that constantly crashes atleast twice a day so I can get a 1080
 
Was just about to bite on another 970 for SLI.
Will wait for the info to see how far the msrp on 970s drops.
I'm going to assume SLI 970 will remain a sound gaming option.
 
SLI is anything but a sound gaming option.

Wait, seriously?
I had a bunch of drama with my old and 4870x2 (lack of compatibility, microstuttering like whoa) and moved to single gpu solutions. Is support for multiple gpus still questionable? I'd have hoped it would be better years later...
 

Renekton

Member
Let's wait until the final version is there. It's a Frostbite 3 games, why would it suddenly run as well on Kepler/Maxwell as on GCN ? I think there are hardware reasons why that happens but at the same time the gap seems very large in most cases, which makes me believe they have not pushed Nvidia cards as much as they could have.
That expectation came about when Frostbite 3 supported Mantle for BF4 and DA:I. They have since stuck with DirectX so it's not much favoring either vendor.
 

buyao

Neo Member
Wait, seriously?
I had a bunch of drama with my old and 4870x2 (lack of compatibility, microstuttering like whoa) and moved to single gpu solutions. Is support for multiple gpus still questionable? I'd have hoped it would be better years later...

Well, UWP happened.
 

tuxfool

Banned
Wait, seriously?
I had a bunch of drama with my old and 4870x2 (lack of compatibility, microstuttering like whoa) and moved to single gpu solutions. Is support for multiple gpus still questionable? I'd have hoped it would be better years later...

Lots of games no longer support it or don't scale well with it. Also with explicit APIs requiring now game developers to implement support directly in the engine it could get dicier (those that do support it are liable to have better results though).

Basically as things stand, support for multiple gpus is still not a sure thing and becoming more rare. In the future it may get better but it also may get even worse.

Well, UWP happened.
UWP isn't the cause. mGPU solutions in in later dx11 games are dodgy to begin with.
 

Anastasis

Member
I'm so ready to upgrade my 650ti boost! I used to have a budget of $150 to upgrade and used Tom's GPU heirarchy to see if it was a few tiers above. But with the way the 970 destroyed bang for the buck, I just couldn't bear buying a 960 which was more my budget. I really hope I don't regret passing up some of the deals on 970s that were around $240 after MIR and selling the bundled games. I hope the 1060ti and/or Polaris hits that VR minimum spec at a good price!
 
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