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[DragonSworne]

This is a reaction to the negative reaction last year, surely.

They know that if they announce a direct, people will get hyped. They have nothing to fulfil that hype. If a bunch of spinoffs were received so poorly last year, this year would be a wipeout of negative impressions. Better to just cancel the direct and bury the bad news on a sleepy thursday in May.

This allows them to:
-Have a day of Zelda, which is, in essence, pre-announcement NX hype building, as that's the key launch title
-Spend two days at Treehouse showing off their smaller stuff (Color splash etc)
-Use youtube and twitter to get the typical trailers out

I for one am relieved we won't have the build-up and crash of last year's direct. And no shitty 'hype train image' threads this year either.

The negative impressions made by this will be fleeting, and the second Nintendo reveals the NX with its software they will be erased. This isn't a big deal, and it's Nintendo making a good decision. Better to admit it's not your time that pretend it is and be shown up for a fool.

EDIT: Humourously, as I'm on a Zelda blackout I'll barely be able to see anything from Nintendo.

Nintendo isn't doing any of that. Literally it's all Zelda. Treehouse stream is Zelda, the only game at the show floor is Zelda. It's just Zelda, Zelda, Zelda.

 

[Etzer]

I feel like this wouldn't have been as negatively received if they hadn't had a slew of presentations that amounted to nothing, yet still managed to fill 40 minutes. All of their bad decisions are catching up to them.

 

[Toxi]

Next Level Games: "Man, it's a good thing Metroid Prime: Federation Force was delayed till August. Now we can win back audiences with an actual decent E3 showing, with a dev interview and some boss fights and an Amiibo showcase and..."

Nintendo Executives: "Nah, we're just showing Zelda."

Next Level Games: "Just Zelda?"

Nintendo Executives: "Just Zelda."

Next Level Games: "...We're making the next Codename S.T.E.A.M., aren't we?"

Nintendo Executives: "Yep."

Next Level Games: "Should we go tell Tanabe?"

Nintendo Executives: "Nah, let him dream."

 

[Mysterious]

This went from everyone thinking they'll have a stage show this year to NOTHING at all.

 

[papertoonz]

I really don't understand what some of you don't understand. They've reorganised their entire company after dismal sales of their last home console and are working towards making games for their new console. The new console isn't ready to be revealed yet. What's the confusion there?

I swear it's like some of you think console wars are an actual fucking thing. There is a company which is having a diminished presence at a press gaming convention at a time when they have nothing substantial to show the press. That is the entirety of this story.

if we are to believe what nintendo have said, the NX should be out in less than a year

like at this point you console should be running so why aren't they showing it at E3

they could of had a big impact at E3 this year but nope just Zelda

 

[B_Bech]

I'm so sick of Nintendo lately. They're sucking all the magic out of E3 this year. Not to mention shooting themselves in the foot.

 

[HeavyMetalLover91]

The problem with this is Nintendo doesn't seem to schedule their dev cycles to align with E3, instead they announce whatever is ready to be shown at the time. Yes they might have another HD remaster coming later this year, but at this point in time it might not be in a presentable state and as such it misses out on E3. It shows they don't value E3 coverage as much as other companies.

That's a fair point as far as HD remasters go, but getting classic games onto a pre-existing service? Come on. They announced the Pokemon re-releases around 4 months (I think) before they came out, so even if they aimed for a November release of those old games (which incidentally GS originally came out in November) that would still give them 5 months of Dev time on a goddamn port.

I don't have an extensive list of missing games from the VC service, and obviously HD remasters are more work but as Sony's E3 proved last year, you can be have a great E3 by just announcing stuff. Especially when it's games like Mother 3.

 

[Davey Cakes]

Maybe this is just Ninty's way of expressing that they want to make console Zelda games a big deal again. They want it to reach phenomenon status with Zelda U/NX.

 

[MatrixMan.EXE]

The only two things they have said are:

1. Zelda will be the only playable game on the floor.
2. They are kicking off with a Zelda blow-out.

Not sure how this translates to "no other games will be promoted or announced". Plenty of 3DS software on the horizon, including unannounced projects according to Kimishima. Zelda will inevitably be the focus, because it's the Wii U's swan song (with not much else on the system to show). However, it's not all that reasonable to expect a no-show for 3DS.

There is no Direct, and it says in the text in the OP that it will be the only playable game at Nintendo's booth. So if they have no other playable games and they're having no directs, where are these other game announcements supposed to come from?

 

[WhiteWaterM00se]

This is how it ends without and bang or a whimper, it just ends.

 

[sixteen-bit]

Spaceworld better be lit

 

[Dark Cloud]

So who else will skipping the treehouse stream? If all they are showing is Zelda game play, no thanks. I don't want to be spoiled...

So dumb.

I'll be watching. I haven't seen a thing for this game other than that little gameplay video they did like a year and a half ago.

 

[JimJamJones]

I wanted to express my disappointment, but Nintendo delayed it.

 

[Gumbie]

Are they going to announce the NX by email?

carrier pigeons.

 

[Griss]

Nintendo isn't doing any of that. Literally it's all Zelda. Treehouse stream is Zelda, the only game at the show floor is Zelda. It's just Zelda, Zelda, Zelda.

Where does it say that? It says there's a day of Zelda. I'm assuming they're not going to pack up and go home after that day. EDIT: (The dates they give confirm that - they're there for 3 days.)

Even if they do, remove that one point and the rest of my points still stand.

 

[KingSnake]

Right that was my point, that reasoning makes no sense. None of these reasons so far make no sense besides them originally planning to show NX and games at E3 but the delay made them change their mind.

And that still makes no sense- even if it's not releasing until March 2017, why can't they show it off here?

I'm sure internally there is some logic to this decision but like I said I doubt we'll ever hear it.

That's why I said that the most reasonable explanation is that they did want to reveal NX at this E3 but something happened with it and it's in no state to be shown. So they had this emergency replacement of showing Zelda instead because they already rented the space. Which doesn't make sense either, as they show the Wii U version while they already announced the NX version which will be practically the flagship of their NX reveal, I assume. So yeah, something went terribly wrong.

 

[khaaan]

I mean...someone correct me if I'm wrong...

The Legend of Zelda for Wii U will be Nintendo's focus of the show this year, and will be the only playable game in Nintendo's booth via extended demos

Nintendo's kick-off to the E3 show happens at 17:00 BST on Tuesday 14th June, when Nintendo of America President and COO Reggie Fils-Aime introduces Nintendo Treehouse: Live, which will be dedicated to a day of live-streamed gameplay of The Legend of Zelda

All I'm getting from that is that Nintendo may or may not have other games to show and as far as Treehouse is concerned, the first day is devoted to Zelda.

 

[Velcro Fly]

And the sad thing is I'm really excited for Zelda

But fuck if I'll be able to enjoy it when we are getting literally nothing else.

I just don't get it.

 

[MuchoMalo]

So shouldn't they be trying to drum up excitement for NX. They should be showing previews of games like Zelda running on NX.Then talk about Nx specs or show tech demos running on NX hardware.

This is totally a dumb move. They better pull out all the stops this fall with nx's reveal. If they treat it like a Treehouse event they are fucking done before they start.

lol please. You know that was never going to happen. You won't know what's in it until months after launch speculating on die shots.

 

[Kyzer]

Hmm I hope we get the Zelda demo

 

[Bots are better than you]

They care about us. It's just they they don't know how to run a game company anymore.

But you do? We know *nothing* about what they have planned for the NX event, or what happened that maybe made them change plans. But sure, all this jumping to conclusions in this thread is totally legit...

And please tell me, how can anyone go from thread “No Direct, just Zelda“ to “NX might be a handheld with TV dock only“??

This year's E3 is done for them, that's too bad. Just deliver a good NX event in return.

 

[MatrixMan.EXE]

Where does it say that? It says there's a day of Zelda. I'm assuming they're not going to pack up and go home after that day.

Even if they do, remove that one point and the rest of my points still stand.

It literally says in the OP that Zelda will be their only playable game at their E3 booth, and that there are no directs. There are no other ways to read that other than Zelda is the only thing they're bringing to E3.

 

[Herb Alpert]

The positive side of this mess is that... Erm... I mean...
...
...

Yes, I found one: I won't have to bother finding a way to watch their presentation live.

Seriously I hope they know what they are doing. Cause from here it seems like they totally lost their mind this time.
Just Zelda, not even the NX one, eventhough they launch at the same time...

 

[PumpkinSpice]

Hah RIP E3.

 

[DragonSworne]

I mean...someone correct me if I'm wrong...





All I'm getting from that is that Nintendo may or may not have other games to show and as far as Treehouse is concerned, the first day is devoted to Zelda.

Why stream games to the public that won't be playable to the attendees of E3 in some form or fashion?

People st E3 won't be watching treehouse.

 

[ironcreed]

So who else will skipping the treehouse stream? If all they are showing is Zelda game play, no thanks. I don't want to be spoiled...

So dumb.

I'll be too busy watching footage from Sony, Microsoft and all of the big publishers. As they will actually have substance and more than one game that is still probably well over a year away. I'll see some footage on Youtube or something.

 

[Dark Cloud]

I mean...someone correct me if I'm wrong...





All I'm getting from that is that Nintendo may or may not have other games to show and as far as Treehouse is concerned, the first day is devoted to Zelda.

It sounds like only day 1 will be Zelda U all day. The other days they should be playing other games on the Treehouse going by their wording.

Why stream games to the public that won't be playable to the attendees of E3 in some form or fashion?

People st E3 won't be watching treehouse.

They did the same for Fatal Frame, Metroid FF, Xenoblade Chronicles and Tokyo Mirage Sessions. None of those games had E3 demos, but they played them on the Treehouse.

 

[Ridley327]

Next Level Games: "Man, it's a good thing Metroid Prime: Federation Force was delayed till August. Now we can win back audiences with an actual decent E3 showing, with a dev interview and some boss fights and an Amiibo showcase and..."

Nintendo Executives: "Nah, we're just showing Zelda."

Next Level Games: "Just Zelda?"

Nintendo Executives: "Just Zelda."

Next Level Games: "...We're making the next Codename S.T.E.A.M., aren't we?"

Nintendo Executives: "Yep."

Next Level Games: "Should we go tell Tanabe?"

Nintendo Executives: "Nah, let him dream."

I don't see how an E3 presentation will do them any better than the most recent showings have. For good, bad and indifferent, the game is exactly what it is and isn't going to change, and neither will anyone that's already made up their mind about it.

 

[Sadist]

Haha, people thinking they're gonna spoil everything. They'll have;

- One demo showing the first dungeon
- Open field demo
- Storybased trailer
- One demo showing the hook (developed) for this particular game.

 

[Piers]

Kind of crazy to think that FromSoft has released Bloodborne and Dark Souls 3 since Nintendo released this teaser, and there's still another year to go before the game is out.

And doubly-so that they are likely vouching on the game reaching similar reverence as Ocarina of Time.

 

[Mysterious]

What if Paper Mario: Color Splash pulls a Super Paper Mario, gets announced for GameCube/Wii U and then silently moved to Wii/NX?

 

[Boney]

Yikes.

Who the fuck is going to watch a whole day of Zelda, anyway. Nintendo diehards will likely want to avoid spoiling too much of the game, and everyone else will be preoccupied with other games on the showfloor.

This is baffling.

This is what I'm thinking.

This game isn't like splatoon. I don't want to watch a whole day stream of it before I play. How much can they possibly show?

Ugh.

Here's a tip. Find something better to do than be sad that you won't get to be glued to a computer screen watching press conferences 2 full days instead of 3.

 

[Griss]

It literally says in the OP that Zelda will be their only playable game at their E3 booth, and that there are no directs. There are no other ways to read that other than Zelda is the only thing they're bringing to E3.

Yes there are.
-Zelda only playable game
-Zelda only game in Day 1 Treehouse
-Other games shown in Day 2 Treehouse, but not playable on the show floor
-Other games have trailers posted to Twitter / Youtube etc

There, there's a reading where they bring more than Zelda to E3.

 

[Zombie James]

Hah RIP E3.

Much like how the Wii U bombing didn't mean the end of the industry, Nintendo having a shit E3 doesn't mean the end of E3.

 

[Toxi]

I don't see how an E3 presentation will do them any better than the most recent showings have. For good, bad and indifferent, the game is exactly what it is and isn't going to change, and neither will anyone that's already made up their mind about it.

I'm like Tanabe: Let me dream. :-(

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

It's crazy how people went from so hyped for Nintendo's E3 with wild speculation to absolutely nothing lol.

With that said, looking forward to seeing some zelda.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

Here's a tip. Find something better to do than be sad that you won't get to be glued to a computer screen watching press conferences 2 full days instead of 3.

Yeah. Seeing new things for your favorite hobby is just the worst.

 

[HeavyMetalLover91]

Yes there are.
-Zelda only playable game
-Zelda only game in Day 1 Treehouse
-Other games shown in Day 2 Treehouse, but not playable on the show floor
-Other games have trailers posted to Twitter / Youtube etc

There, there's a reading where they bring more than Zelda to E3.

Lol they're not. And there's only one day of streaming.

 

[The Boat]

I must be missing something, cause I don't see where they say there won't be a direct.

 

[AstroNut325]

Can Nintendo really pull of a dedicated NX unveil event? Do they even have the skills? Or are they just going to have a NX dedicated Direct?

 

[Moltenix]

So much for only playable Zelda but them at least showing off some other games....

 

[MoonFrog]

So funny and sad how I, and many others, thought this was going to be Nintendo's e3 to lose; that they'd win it or lose it on NX hardware/early software.

 

[Rodin]

Kind of crazy to think that FromSoft has released Bloodborne and Dark Souls 3 since Nintendo released this teaser, and there's still another year to go before the game is out.

You know, this looks a bit bigger than the typical Soulsborne (or old Zelda) title. It's also the first Zelda game in HD, From was at the 4th and 5th with the two you mentioned, all running on the same engine.

What if Paper Mario: Color Splash pulls a Super Paper Mario, gets announced for GameCube/Wii U and then silently moved to Wii/NX?

Unlikely, they'll still want to have at least 1 Wii U title for the fall/holiday (which is still horrible).

Haha, people thinking they're gonna spoil everything. They'll have;

- One demo showing the first dungeon
- Open field demo
- Storybased trailer
- One demo showing the hook (developed) for this particular game.

That's what i expect as well, but the "hook" will probably be part of the game itself, so i think we'll se it in all the first three demos.

 

[atr0cious]

After the constant threads about Nintendo needing to drop the wii u, it's funny seeing folks response to them essentially clearing the slate to make room for the new system. We already know what happens when Nintendo announces shit at the same time as the others, so I can't blame Nintendo for not wanting to launch the Sony NX.

 

[MatrixMan.EXE]

Yes there are.
-Zelda only playable game
-Zelda only game in Day 1 Treehouse
-Other games shown in Day 2 Treehouse, but not playable on the show floor
-Other games have trailers posted to Twitter / Youtube etc

There, there's a reading where they bring more than Zelda to E3.

Reaching.

 

[Devilgunman]

I really don't understand what some of you don't understand. They've reorganised their entire company after dismal sales of their last home console and are working towards making games for their new console. The new console isn't ready to be revealed yet. What's the confusion there?

I swear it's like some of you think console wars are an actual fucking thing. There is a company which is having a diminished presence at a press gaming convention at a time when they have nothing substantial to show the press. That is the entirety of this story.

As it has been stated multiple times, I think people understand that the NX isn't at E3 because it's not ready. But what people want to know is How the hell is it not ready?

The thing I don't quite understand is why people keep bringing to PS4 and XB1 announcement into discussion. It's true that those 2 console were announce less than a year before launch but the timelines of those 2 are totally different than the NX. PS4 and XB1 were announced before E3, so basically they had E3 and Gamescom (and TGS for PS4), to demo their console. Nintendo already miss the E3 and possibly Gamescom and they usually don't show up at TGS. Basically they will only have their own event to sell the NX to the public and ,regardless of your believe in relevancy of the gaming convention, that single event won't generate the same exposure as the big events do.

 

[Zambayoshi]

I get the feeling that Zelda at E3 will be a freakin' enormous game. We already know it is open world and some people even postulated at the size of the map IIRC. My hunch is that it will be a kind of Skyrim: Zelda Edition. There'll be many lengthy side quests in addition to an open world with activities and 'events' in the same vein as Sleeping Dogs. I think this is the only reason that Nintendo would devote an entire E3 to the game.

That being said, I think that Nintendo is only going to be at E3 because it needs to maintain some mindshare. If not for that, it would skip it and reveal the NX around TGS time (not that they will be at TGS itself in all probability). They've already said that the concept for NX is pretty unique, so I don't think they'd want to give competitors more than 6 months or so lead time to steal ideas if the thing turns into a second Wii.

The other reason I think the NX will be revealed around TGS time is that after the failure of the Wii U and the decline of the 3DS Nintendo will really want to secure its home market. Being a very conservative company, it cannot afford not to design the NX and reveal the NX with a Japanese market firmly in mind. Yes it will be a global launch, but I think you'll find a lot of attention given to Japanese developers like Capcom and Level 5. Nintendo needs to keep titles like Monster Hunter and Youkai Watch exclusive because it cannot count on the likes of EA and Activision to support the NX strongly after two generations in the wilderness.

EDIT: one more reason that March 2017 and Japan will be the focus is because around end of March and into April Japanese taxpayers get their refunds. Aren't hardware sales traditionally higher in Japan around that time?

Maybe this is all wrong, but I get the feeling Nintendo is going to play it safe until it goes really deep and hard for the Japanese market with NX. We'll just have to wait and see...

 

[Calamari41]

This is the first Zelda game of its kind though. Open world and HD. FromSoft already had experience making those types of games. They were in a mode to pump that kind of content out.

Its not a 1:1, you're right, but each Souls is still a very large game that can't exactly be equated to something "pumped out" like Madden. I mean, since Dark Souls 1 and Skyward Sword released, FromSoft has put out three very large and high quality games (two with large expansions), and the Zelda team has put out some spinoffs. I'm not trying to bash the team, as they're working as hard as anybody in the industry. My only point is that Nintendo needs to start giving their developers the resources they need if they want to start getting games out in a timely manner.

You know, this looks a bit bigger than the typical Soulsborne (or old Zelda) title. It's also the first Zelda game in HD, From was at the 4th and 5th with the two you mentioned, all running on the same engine.

Do we know that Zelda is going to be "bigger" than a game like Scholar of the First Sin? More open, maybe, but "bigger" overall?

 

[b4mv]

Well. At this point, I'm not even gonna request off work for e3. Tradition broken

 

[Herbspiceguy]

I don't get the negativity.
I'd rather watch people playing the game than a have a Direct.

Also streaming is probably the best marketing tool nowadays.