Phawx
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Here's the kicker. When the 1070 launches at $450, where does that put the used price of a 980ti?
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Here's the kicker. When the 1070 launches at $450, where does that put the used price of a 980ti?
OnionPowder
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1070 is $380 I thought?
980 Tis will worth less than $300 for sure though. Same performance with less VRAM and used on top of that?
ISee
Member
First 1070s may even be around 500.
DOT DASH DOT
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jim2point0
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I ran the gamut last time. 980 -> TitanX -> 980TI -> SLI 980TI
I wanted to try SLI, so it made sense to sell the TitanX for more money than a 980TI, then use the extra to put towards a 2nd card.
Now I'm never going SLI again. I'm not a fan...
This time I'll probably wait for the 1080ti. I'm not really hurting for performance right now.
Thanks for taking the time to post this, my current CPU / RAM setup is precisely the same as yours was and I was looking at the same replacement parts. Very useful.
That would be the explanation for that performance boost when switching to the i7, those games are properly paralleled to take advantage of the inherent hyper threading.
*Durante, make sure I'm using those terms correctly.
Damn this is a huge jump.
digitalrelic
Banned
I had a similar progression. 970 > 980 > 980 Ti > SLI 980 Ti > Back to single 980 Ti and used the funds from the second card towards a 1440p 165hz G-Sync display.
I've learned my lesson with upgrading too often. My decision to go back to 1 card and get a G-Sync display was my best decision yet. I'm not a fan of SLI either and will be waiting for the 1080 Ti as my next card as well.
Makes me re-think not upgrading this old ass i7 2600K.
I'm considering finally becoming a PC gamer in November 2017. Perhaps this will be the card to get. Prices should have dropped nicely by then. (18 months is a long time)
I have no issue with 30fps, so when I read that this thing can push 40fps at 4k in all the games I care about... fucking phwoar. Rock-solid 60fps at 1440p is more likely, and that would still be mindblowing to a console only gamer like me.
Of course you pay for all of that, but man, it's nice to dream.
I have no issue with 30fps, so when I read that this thing can push 40fps at 4k in all the games I care about... fucking phwoar. Rock-solid 60fps at 1440p is more likely, and that would still be mindblowing to a console only gamer like me.
Of course you pay for all of that, but man, it's nice to dream.
digitalrelic
Banned
If you're still rocking a 2600K, it's time. Get that 6700k.
jim2point0
Banned
Do any of these reviews include overclocked benchmarks mixed in with the rest? Because I'm lazy and I don't want to look at 2 graphs at the same time? =)
Lockjaw333
Member
If used 980 Ti's drop below $300, I would scoop one up. People tend to be delusional though on the value of their used cards, people are still asking for around $500 on ebay for 980 Ti's they are trying to dump for upgrading.
Really doubt you'll see used Tis going for under $400 anytime soon.
780 Tis are still going for $200-250ish, so by that metric, a 980 Ti for sub $300 would be a hell of a deal.
Really, people said a 1080 wouldn't out perform a 980ti? I need to see this.Yes , really.
Over and over again people kept saying (with a tone of great authority) that the 1080 was going to be below a 980ti performance wise, with a few guessing it would be above it.
Only a handful of people were saying it would be more powerful (my guess was either at 980ti level or slightly above depending on clockspeeds, as there were early rumors of nice clockspeed gains from ff+. I was expecting 1.3-1.5ghz based on the lower operating voltage for 16nmff+ ,but not frigging 1.7 and ocing to 2.1 lol).
What's worse is that most people were just speculating based on confirmation bias and not on specs or any kind of logical reasoning. Just some crap about 'these days you only get incremental 20 percent improvements every gen'
So while he may seem a bit obnoxious right now with his gloating, if you were in those old threads he has all the reason to be.
it's just a shame that the people who were so wrong despite being so confident now don't say a word about it
Goldenmoney
Member
That's a long ways away. HBM2 graphics cards will probably be all the rage by then.
Can't wait to buy a 980 TI after those prices hit the basement.
You and me both, I'm already looking at eBay for sellers in panic mode.
damn, im thinking about the 6700k too. and im using a 2500k with 1333 ddr3 lol
Me too.
I'm looking at the 5820K though, may even see further gains due to the increase in Cores + HT.
I don't think AMD will be competing in terms of absolute performance but the rumors point to them putting out at least one card in the 300$ price bracket so the question right now is if they can go back to delivering the best bang for the buck while NVidia overprices the shit out of their cards which is where the business is for AMD imo.
This gen they weren't really a lot better than the 970 and similar price/perfomance ratios seem to always make people go NVidia.
6800K is on the horizon. Like... ASUS already refreshed their MOBO line ahead of time for it. All Broadwell-E is compatible with X99 boards I believe. So no need to get the latest and greatest there.
If you're not interested in that, the released should see the prices of 5820K take a nice dive.
Sweclockers has results that shows it compared to OC'd 980Ti as well. All the overclocks are rather mild though.
http://www.sweclockers.com/test/22087-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080/22#content
ISee
Member
I can only speak out of my experience and I'm happy about upgrading from the 3570k to a better cpu.
Normally the performance gain going the i7 vs i5 route isn't huge, but most open world games really seem to like multi threading (even if it's just HTT).
Some i5 6600k vs i7 6700k benchmarks scenes + some older i5s.
Is it necessary to upgrade your 3770k? Well make up your own mind. DF tested all i7s (up from the 2600k) @ 4.4ghz paired with an overclocked Titan X (so probably around 1070 preformance levels).
There is also an i5 6600k vs 6700k video.
Edit: Fixed Video links
The 6800k shouldn't be to far away. You might want to wait...
draughn101
Member
As in tomorrow?
Future PhaZe
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Phawx
Member
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gigabyte-G1...cac248fe6:g:e6IAAOSwLs5XLj5s&autorefresh=true
We are already approaching $400 on 980ti.
Also this listing just ended. It's not hard to find at $400 either, I've been watching for the past week.
Yes, as in 18 hours and 40 minutes from now. They are doing a webinar which should have lots of news.
draughn101
Member
Nice! Something else to look forward to. Thanks.
Huh, so maybe my i5-4690k should be my upgrade priority and NOT the 980. That's close to a 20% boost in places.
ISee
Member
The 4970k is fine. No need to worry.
Yes but they will stay around that price level for awhile. There isn't going to be a constant flood of used 980 Tis going up once the 1080 hype settles down.
The only thing that could affect the value further right now I think is if Polaris matches 980 Ti for like $300.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
I can't understand why so many of you are so lily livered in the face of Nvidia's huge price hike here.
$699. Next year the 1180 will be $800. What's the justification for the $150 price increase on the reference cards then, the poorly performing cooler? Reference 980 released at $549.99. I'm questioning this now as before today I believed there would be some announcement of the $599 non-ref 1080's but it seems these will also be jacked up in price all the same.
Hoping AMD can bring these prices back down to reality with a Fury X level card for $300.
$699. Next year the 1180 will be $800. What's the justification for the $150 price increase on the reference cards then, the poorly performing cooler? Reference 980 released at $549.99. I'm questioning this now as before today I believed there would be some announcement of the $599 non-ref 1080's but it seems these will also be jacked up in price all the same.
Hoping AMD can bring these prices back down to reality with a Fury X level card for $300.
Papacheeks
Banned
I'm in the same boat. 700$ is ridiculous, and even asking 599$ for a non-ti card is a slap in the face.
I'v been team green for what seems like forever since the 6800 Ultra, but no more Nvidia, your prices are not worth the performance.
According to Digital Foundry, you won't. 6700k beats 5820k and beats or is at worst on par with 5960x in the the games they tested: Far Cry 4, GTA V, AC:U, Crysis 3 and The Witcher 3.
Phawx
Member
Call me skeptical but I don't see AMD making a dent in the second-hand Nvidia market. It would have to be super cheap to make a dent.
What will make a dent is the 1070. Right now the 1080 with the FE tax is keeping 980ti (new and used) prices kind of stable.
But when the 1070 launches, your options will be:
New, 8GB total Vram, comparable perf to a 980Ti = $450
Right now, used 980Tis with 6GB VRAM go for $400 (you have to look but it's possible)
If 1070s ever get down to the $380 MSRP, it's even worse for the 980ti used market.
i also have a 4970K and compared it to the 6700K on cpuboss i think. they came out very comparable. though i wonder how long the 4970K is good for..
General Lee
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I think it was corrected in Reddit by an AMD employee that the webinar is just a partner thing and not something aimed at consumers, and it won't have any new info for us. You'll have to wait until Computex for a paper launch I think.
terencecah
Member
Why worry about something like that
exmachina64
Banned
Wait until Kaby Lake, then buy the i7-7xxxk.
That depends on your current GPU.
Gemüsepizza
Member
Haswell-E only makes sense for multi GPU configurations because of the additional PCIe lanes. For single card configurations the normal i7 CPUs are faster. The reason is that somehow Intel thinks that it's high end CPUs should be one generation behind their normal i7 CPUs. So the 5820k does not have the benefits of the Skylake or even Broadwell architecture. If you are sure that you don't want SLI/CF, an overclocked 6700K is probably the best and most modern CPU you can get.