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I enjoy Dark Souls 3, but I'm burned out.

I don't know why, but Souls formula felt the most worn out with Bloodborne for me.

It felt like they tricked me into believing that BB wasn't yet another Souls games with it's different theme and visuals....

...but it ended as exactly that, with some superficial changes just to make stuff a bit different on top.

With DS3, at least, I came in expecting more Souls (and it's genuinely fantastic and probably the best in the series).


I definitely agree, the series/ Souls formula needs a long 3+ years rest. It already lost what made it special, there is no need to go Ubisoft on us.
 
I thought I was getting burned out and had almost no hype for DS3 launch, but I picked it up anyway and all concern was swept away. It has a lot of familiar elements, but it there are so many cool moments and surprises it won me over. DS3 proved to me that From Software still has it. I am now hyped for the DLC.
 
DS3 does everything well, but feels creatively exhausted.

Its not the series, it's the game itself that's lacking. A key part of the appeal of the games is the sense that you are exploring an unknown and mysterious world, DS3 feels more like a nostalgic theme-park. Its not too damaging the first time through because at least you have bosses to anticipate, but on replay when you know the lay of the land and where big encounters happen it falls flat.

At which point I found myself keenly aware of how lacking in ideas, character, and innovation this new entry was... and my interest fell off a cliff.

What's doubly damning to me is the feeling that there's very little FROM can do to make DS3 a title that stands on its own feet with patches and DLC. Its simply too mired in past glories to ever become its own thing; its constant call-backs to past glories simply remind me of how great and memorable those games were, whereas DS3 itself is fairly anonymous and uninteresting.

I really hope more people make that distinction.

I genuinely think DS3 will have a bit of a backlash once the new feeling wears off. And when it does I dont want that to hamper the chances of a new game in the series. I think there is some great stuff From can do with this series, they just chose not to with DS3.
 

xviper

Member
same as you OP, last night i tried to finish Dark souls 3 again with a new character, reached crystal siege and couldn't keep playing, i feel like i played long enough souls games to the point where i can't play them anymore, i started souls series since Demon's souls came out and it became in my top 3 games of all time but now with Dark souls 3 i feel like it's horrible, it's not horrible i just had enough, hopefully Fromsoftware bring back my beloved series Tenchu or work on a new IP that is completely not related to souls series
 

Mogwai

Member
DS3 is a great game. Not a whole lot to complain about. But I'm definitely starting to burn out a lot quicker with each new game.
 

120v

Member
I rolled my eyes when everybody was complaining of overkill when DS3 was announced but once I started playing it I was like "yeah... not really feeling this right now". It is an amazing game but I need awhile to play it in earnest
 

ironcreed

Banned
I loved Dark Souls III, as I do the series on the whole. But I am ready to see them do something else with a similar formula. That is kind of why I am so excited for Nioh by Team Ninja.
 

Hindl

Member
Yeah I'm feeling the same. Feel like I did it to myself though, got introduced with BB last year and loved that, played through it twice. Then in between February and March I beat DS1 twice before DS3. DS3 is objectively great and I think it's amazing, but I just can't get through it right now. I'm about to kill
3rd Lord of Cinder
so I think I'm about 50% done, but I'm not feeling the urge to go back. Especially with stuff like Doom and UC4 out. I'm hoping that in a couple months I'll be able to return to DS3 fresh
 

sjay1994

Member
Yeah, I'm with you OP.

Enjoyed DS3, but I honestly feel pretty burnt out on the soulsborne formula. Won't be picking up the DLC for DS3.
 

batbeg

Member
Demons souls, dark souls 2 and bloodborne I played for 80 hours in the first week, dark souls and ds3 I got burnt out on and had to set down for a while. I'm just now picking up ds3 after over a month, and I definitely find myself just wanting to finish it. To be honest it's making me want to replay bloodborne since I never did the dlc, but I know it's a quality title and I just need to see it through.
 

Sephzilla

Member
I fucking love the Soulsborne games. That said, I would be 100% okay with From putting those games on hold for 2 or 3 years unless the next one is a huge world/genre shift.
 

Struct09

Member
DS3 is easily my favorite Souls game with Bloodborne being my favorite FROM game, but I too am feeling the burn out. It's been a wild ride these last few years but I hope they give this style of game a couple years of rest.
 
I feel the same. I've played through all of these games more than once, and by the time I got around to DS3 the thrill is very much gone. There fear of the unknown is gone, and the mechanics are all so familiar that the DS3 lost the ability to evoke the same feelings as the other games. Once you get too familiar with these games, they lose a big part of what makes them special to me.
 

Raven117

Member
The Souls games are my favorite franchise, but I'm right there with you.

I'm a little burned out on it as well.

Can't wait to see what From does next.
 
I felt a little burned out when I first started Dark Souls 3, but when I started fighting the tougher bosses, that's when I locked in. The fatigue might fade, OP.
 
I'm stuck on
Yhorm the Giant
. I'm not burnt out but I'm f'n frustrated as hell. None of my shit does any damage at all. I have tried summoning bros to help but they all die quicker than I do!
 
I'm stuck on
Yhorm the Giant
. I'm not burnt out but I'm f'n frustrated as hell. None of my shit does any damage at all. I have tried summoning bros to help but they all die quicker than I do!

Spoilers, if you want help, in case you do not know the trick.

Grab the item near the altar. Equip the weapon, switch to 2H mode, hold L2 to "charge it". Use R1 or R2 (can't remember; it might not matter which button you press) to do insane damage.
 

I-hate-u

Member
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They're just that good. Every time I try to get invested in another game, I get bored and go back to Souls.
 

Inorganic

Member
I've yet to play BB and DS3 because I like to take an extended break of 1.5-2 years between each game. Yes I am behind, but I use this logic for every game franchise that tends to release more often than not. Maybe thats why I enjoyed every AC game uptill BF. I've yet to be burned out of any game franchise, because I would never start a game knowing that I am feeling franchise fatigue. Not sure why people do this to themselves. Take a break for a year before starting DS3, it will work wonders for your interest.
 

DMTripper

Member
I'm really happy the series is getting a rest. There is only so much they can do to keep the games fresh. Let FROM work on something else and let the embers die..
 

Crzy1

Member
Took me about 15 hours before I started to enjoy it. Now that I've gotten into it, I'm really enjoying it, but was really feeling burned out at the start. Might be best to put it on hold if you're just not enjoying it.
 

JudgeN

Member
DS3 does everything well, but feels creatively exhausted.

Its not the series, it's the game itself that's lacking. A key part of the appeal of the games is the sense that you are exploring an unknown and mysterious world, DS3 feels more like a nostalgic theme-park. Its not too damaging the first time through because at least you have bosses to anticipate, but on replay when you know the lay of the land and where big encounters happen it falls flat.

At which point I found myself keenly aware of how lacking in ideas, character, and innovation this new entry was... and my interest fell off a cliff.

What's doubly damning to me is the feeling that there's very little FROM can do to make DS3 a title that stands on its own feet with patches and DLC. Its simply too mired in past glories to ever become its own thing; its constant call-backs to past glories simply remind me of how great and memorable those games were, whereas DS3 itself is fairly anonymous and uninteresting.

Its like that for all the souls games since day 1, after that first play through you speed run the game for trophies/new builds.
 
Posts like this are what make Miyazaki's decision to move on look smart. There's nothing wrong with Ds3, its probably my favorite Souls game(excluding BB) but it definitely feels like they've stretched the ideas they can implement in this series thin.

Taking a break is a good thing for us and FROM, which is why I'm more excited for the announcement of their new IP than Ds3 DLC.
 

TheGrue

Member
I could play a Dark Souls game every year and not get burned out, assuming they kept the quality of the world/game that they've done. I just love having a new world to explore and even if they changed nothing else but gave you new areas to puzzle through, I'd be satisfied.
 

Clear

CliffyB's Cock Holster
I really hope more people make that distinction.

I genuinely think DS3 will have a bit of a backlash once the new feeling wears off. And when it does I dont want that to hamper the chances of a new game in the series. I think there is some great stuff From can do with this series, they just chose not to with DS3.

Well, I can only speak for myself but I went back to replay SOTFS after getting bored of DS3, and enjoyed it as much as ever. I had a depressing realization though as I was going through Forest Of Fallen Giants with my fresh "deprived" character: that stabbing stuff with my poxy dagger at that stage felt very little different from how I was playing DS3's NG++ with my Sunlight Straight Sword. Sure healing was a lot slower, but the actual feel of combat felt so similar (quick blitz bursts of strikes ftw) it really struck me how little the latest iteration asked of me.

Still love the series, but DS3 got stale on me super-quick in a way that none of the others did, or do.
 

NEO0MJ

Member
Yeah, starting to feel it as well. Can't bring myself to replay DaS III, even though I replayed all previous games multiple times.
 
DS3 does everything well, but feels creatively exhausted.

Its not the series, it's the game itself that's lacking. A key part of the appeal of the games is the sense that you are exploring an unknown and mysterious world, DS3 feels more like a nostalgic theme-park. Its not too damaging the first time through because at least you have bosses to anticipate, but on replay when you know the lay of the land and where big encounters happen it falls flat.

At which point I found myself keenly aware of how lacking in ideas, character, and innovation this new entry was... and my interest fell off a cliff.

What's doubly damning to me is the feeling that there's very little FROM can do to make DS3 a title that stands on its own feet with patches and DLC. Its simply too mired in past glories to ever become its own thing; its constant call-backs to past glories simply remind me of how great and memorable those games were, whereas DS3 itself is fairly anonymous and uninteresting.

This is what i was going to say.

It felt like i knew exactly what was going to happen in the game before it happened.
 

ironcreed

Banned
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They're just that good. Every time I try to get invested in another game, I get bored and go back to Souls.

The Souls series definitely is that good. I just kind of want to see them do something else with a similar formula for awhile. I have had my fill of it as it is and am ready for new ideas vs milking a legend dry and burning everyone out in the process.
 

Ogawa-san

Member
I'm not burned out the series yet. I am burning out the games though.

I can't get enough of that rush after beating a boss but nobody else is trying to copy the formula, so I'm off to replay DS3 and BB. As much as I love them (and god do I love BB), they're not that replayable outside handicap runs.

On the other hand, there's only so much you can do to keep it fresh for anyone that have gone through at least half the games. BB2 might do it to burn me out.
 

Gbraga

Member
I'm STILL on my first playthrough, but I'm having the opposite experience. Uncovering Aldrich's story by little bits every now and then, leading up to the bombastic reveal was absolutely amazing. My favorite character in the series, and totally worth everything.

I'm really enjoying learning more about that world and characters, seeing how the Way of White quickly ascended in status and basically took over that world, and everything points to Carim as being the most important place related to it, and how they used their usual surreptitious methods to influence and mold the Way of Gwyn to their own tastes is incredible. Reading about the current state of Astora, learning more about Anri's true origins, even getting some possible insight into the Way of Blue and Blue Sentinels, and what they represent in that world.

I'm loving almost everything. Some times they do go a bit too far, like
Rosaria's quest being identical to Lautrec and the Fire Keeper
, I appreciated the direct callback with
Siegward
, but those two quests have no reason to relate to each other. Also not sure how in the world
Kirk is alive in this game, since his set indicates that it's the same Kirk.
But overall I'm adoring it.

I can see why people would be disappointed by how much it calls back to the first game, but to me that's how a sequel to Dark Souls should've been.

Well, in fact, it should probably use the Dark Lord ending as canon, since the Age of Dark was always said to be inevitable, but that was no longer a possibility because of Dark Souls II's story. And frankly, it was probably for the best. The Lords of Cinder rising from their graves to reenact the first linking of the fire was such a brilliant spin on it, and further reinforces the inevitability of dark.

I'm so, so excited to see how it all plays out. I think the NPC quests are also possibly my favorite in the series, and something that I couldn't help but miss in Bloodborne, even though it's still my favorite Souls game.

I also really appreciate the new mysteries they gave us to discuss for years ahead (or at least I think so, maybe they'll just explain them later on), ENB was hoping they would explain a lot of random stuff from what he said in his From the Dark series, but I always thought that would be a mistake, some things should be just left open for our interpretation. Just answer what needs to be answered. So far, I'm really liking what they did.

There are also some brilliantly designed levels, the Undead Settlement and the Cathedral of the Deep are two of the best levels in the series, in my opinion.

Arriving in Anor Londo was also handled so masterfully. The game didn't really hide it from you, there were always very obvious hints, and Yuria even outright says it to you, but even then, I got chills when the title appeared on screen.

While I totally understand people who wanted something that relied less on the first game, personally I think it's what a Dark Souls sequel should be.

That's all assuming they'll stay true to this being the final chapter of that story. It's (so far) a brilliant conclusion, but if there's more after that, then all of the beautiful set up will feel meaningless.

Can't wait for a new IP coming next, but I'm definitely enjoying this good bye.

Posts like this are what make Miyazaki's decision to move on look smart. There's nothing wrong with Ds3, its probably my favorite Souls game(excluding BB) but it definitely feels like they've stretched the ideas they can implement in this series thin.

Taking a break is a good thing for us and FROM, which is why I'm more excited for the announcement of their new IP than Ds3 DLC.

I can definitely agree with this.
 

erawsd

Member
I know that feeling OP. I felt the same fatigue back when the BB DLC came out, I got maybe half way through and just stopped. DS3 kinda got me back on board though and if this wasnt such a busy month Id probably go back to the BB DLC.
 
I can't relate. I could play Souls games forever. I've played ~230 hours of Dark Souls III so far (in addition to already having replayed all the other Soulsborne games this year) and I still have the urge to play every day.
 

Gbraga

Member
I know that feeling OP. I felt the same fatigue back when the BB DLC came out, I got maybe half way through and just stopped. DS3 kinda got me back on board though and if this wasnt such a busy month Id probably go back to the BB DLC.

You definitely should go back to it when you're not feeling as tired of the franchise as you were. It's the best DLC I've ever played, and it's what sealed the deal to make Bloodborne my favorite game in the series. I couldn't decide between Bloodborne and Dark Souls before the DLC, but after playing it just once, it was easy.
 
This. I also feel like people who try a bit more to get into the lore will find the game more engaging. It's what I've been doing since beating it multiple times. And new discoveries which help shape Ds3s own world are being made everyday.
 

Naked Lunch

Member
Its too much, too soon. For me personally I just beat Demon's Souls last year for the first time - then I played through Dark Souls II the next gen remaster afterwards. Im so burnt out on the series atm I didnt even pick up DS3 yet. The $50 season pass just made the wait for the inevitable goty edition with all dlc included that much easier. Even quality games can get stale with too much at once.
 

RK9039

Member
Same happened to me. I beat the boss in
Anor Londo
and after that I took a break. Later on I uninstalled it to prepare for Blood and Wine.

To me Dks1 is the highest point of the series (Demon Souls felt like a stepping stone), I've found it really hard to remain interested in all the ones that came afterwards, including Bloodborne. They should really do something new next.
 

Listonosh

Member
Understandable, though more so if you've been playing them all in quick succession. If you've been playing them at their release, I think the time between them was sufficient enough. Granted, after Dark Souls II, they were yearly releases, but I think having Bloodborne between DS2 and DS3 to switch things up setting wise as well as a few tweaks to the core mechanics, was welcome.

I already beat DS3 about 4 times, and I still can't stop creating new characters with different builds. So I'm not quite fatigued yet it seems.
 

DanceLeaf

Neo Member
At some points you do feel like you've been there, done that
Especially with Dark Souls III being as reliant on its predecessors for story, as it is
 
Utterly understandable. I mean, I'm personally on my 4th playthrough since launch day but understandable. Must be particularly frustrating if you're like some of us and souls has basically ruined other games. I suggest trying a completely different genre altogether for a while and come back to ds III in a years time. You might fine you're ready to dive headfirst into the madness all over again.
 
Same here. This game just doesn't feel like it has the intrigue, the secrets, the sense that you're truly discovering something new. It's very much like the Force Awakens, in that it's a very faithful tribute to the original. More of a remix/remaster than a true continuation.

Not a bad game at all, but sadly predictable and lacking ideas. I'd much rather see an entirely new class introduced in the DLC than new areas, a new way to experience the existing game rather than yet more cathedrals.

I don't think it's us that's burned out on Souls, it's Miyazaki who's fatigued with the franchise. I hope if he is doing a sci-fi game next, it's not just DS with lightsabers.
 

GOOCHY

Member
The games are pretty intense, really. It takes a lot of concentration and a lot of patience to play Souls games. That can wear a player down a little bit I think.

That said, I'm just getting back into DS3 (Ithryll Dungeon) after putting it down for about a month while I platinum'd Ratchet & Clank and finished Uncharted 4. It's still a great game but very similar to the prior entries. That's a good and a bad thing.
 
Same here. This game just doesn't feel like it has the intrigue, the secrets, the sense that you're truly discovering something new. It's very much like the Force Awakens, in that it's a very faithful tribute to the original. More of a remix/remaster than a true continuation.

Not a bad game at all, but sadly predictable and lacking ideas. I'd much rather see an entirely new class introduced in the DLC than new areas, a new way to experience the existing game rather than yet more cathedrals.

I don't think it's us that's burned out on Souls, it's Miyazaki who's fatigued with the franchise. I hope if he is doing a sci-fi game next, it's not just DS with lightsabers.
You are pretty spot on but I thought there was enough going on with how damn refined the gameplay was to keep me playing. The pvp in particular, even with the flaws has me seriously hooked. I'm sure the dlc will add some great new ideas and areas as well as capping off the lore in a satisfying way
 

takriel

Member
I don't know why, but Souls formula felt the most worn out with Bloodborne for me.

It felt like they tricked me into believing that BB wasn't yet another Souls games with it's different theme and visuals....

...but it ended as exactly that, with some superficial changes just to make stuff a bit different on top.

With DS3, at least, I came in expecting more Souls (and it's genuinely fantastic and probably the best in the series).


I definitely agree, the series/ Souls formula needs a long 3+ years rest. It already lost what made it special, there is no need to go Ubisoft on us.
BB had a sick lore to make up for it, though.
 

Gbraga

Member
This. I also feel like people who try a bit more to get into the lore will find the game more engaging. It's what I've been doing since beating it multiple times. And new discoveries which help shape Ds3s own world are being made everyday.

I'm already excited to try to do the quests I've failed, and see different outcomes of the ones I did manage to do, on NG+.

BB had a sick lore to make up for it, though.

Dark Souls' lore is fantastic as well!
 
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