CornBurrito
Member
I'd be down with that. But it needs to be Mario Party 3. And none of that bullshit 2v2 crap or 1v3 crap.
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Danny Phantom Mafia |OT| Your lynch doesn't stand a ghost of a chance!
- Thread starter Terrabyte20xx
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I'd be down with that. But it needs to be Mario Party 3. And none of that bullshit 2v2 crap or 1v3 crap.
You know, we've talked about doing that for so long and we still haven't had a murder decided via Mario Party. It's starting to get depressing.
What is this Mario Party 3 bullshit? It's 2 or bust.
Nothing tops shock, drop, or roll.
so macho.
OceanicAir
Member
Can I vote for somebody yet?
Terrabyte20xx
Junior Wrestlemania XXX Champion
"The preparations are complete. The observants sit in their chamber, waiting for the test to begin. And that time has come. I wish you all well. Remember, the fate of 2 universes are at stake.
No pressure."
TIME IN
[f] melonrabbit - New
[m] OceanicAir
[m] SkyOdin
[m] Giant Panda
[m] StanleyPalmtree
[m] gryvan
[m] Flame_AC
[-] Enker
[m] Rats Off to Ya
[m] CrimsonFist
[m] TheWorthyEdge
[m] Trigger
[m] Xamtheking
[m] Royal_Flush
[f] StarSketch
[m] Ty4on
[m] Matt Attack
[m] El Topo
[m] CornBurrito
[m] Blargonaut
[m] ultron87
[-] Darryl
22 players remain
Day 1 will end in:
Day 1 begins
Xamtheking
Member
I AM THE SPOOKY BOX GHOST
FEAR ME
FEAR ME
Okay, I have a proton pack, some holy water, an ectoplasm sensor, and a Dummy's Guide to Exorcism: Fifth Edition on hand. I think I am ready.
It is kinda weird not having someone make some huge pre-prepared post at the start though. It is leaving me a little uncertain on how to start. I haven't had the chance to play with most of you guys yet.
It is kinda weird not having someone make some huge pre-prepared post at the start though. It is leaving me a little uncertain on how to start. I haven't had the chance to play with most of you guys yet.
Xamtheking
Member
I'm sure you boys will have fun
Wait, are you role-claiming to be Damon Gray? That's his catch phrase.
Xamtheking
Member
Danny, will you relax.
Xamtheking
Member
Oh yeah? You and what toaster?
Matt Attack
Member
*insert witty Danny Phantom reference*
Xamtheking
Member
You have a battle-cry. Hilarious.
Oh right, we actually have one new person here.
Hi melonrabbit!
I haven't seen the debate lately, but there used to be a lynch/no-lynch debate. Pretty much every D1 ends with a lynch because it gets people talking and puts some pressure on them.
The goal of the game is to catch scum so... do that. It's also really hard to read other people if they're not engaged in the game. Unless you're getting close to being lynched or the info could be very valuable it's generally a bad idea to role claim. People being suspicious of you is part of the game.
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SkyOdin, what's your plan for the game?
CrimsonFist
Member
Adding onto the "don't role claim" point. This is equally true if you're just vanilla town. Especially in this game where we know that there's a role which causes Bad Things (TM) to occur if they die.
I am for a Day 1 lynch. Going for a No Lynch vote means putting your faith in the existence of useful investigator roles. Even if those roles are present, that doesn't mean they will return useful info after just one night. Better to get votes on the table that can be examined for information later.
I'm still figuring that out. In the Matrix 9 game, I made some major misplays, so I am still reevaluating my approach to Mafia. For now, my mantra will be "don't rule out anyone as Mafia".
Wow, we already have the return of Karkador's Bat-computer? I didn't take you to be a copy-cat, Darryl. Your execution is lacking though. You should have implied it to be part of your role. Calling it an RNG list renders it pretty meaningless. Especially since I can't trust that this list is actually RNG at all.
To be frank, this looks like scum trying to divert attention away from scum.
CrimsonFist
Member
Interesting theory. Would you expect scum to give a list of any sort with no scum on it?
And do you actually think that Darryl intends for that list to be taken seriously?
Great catch, I hadn't thought about that. The anonymous vote seems like it could be especially dangerous in the early game where I assume town will be more split and a lot of mafia members are still alive.
CrimsonFist
Member
Dangerous at any time. If it happens, I think we'd need to agree on one person before doing any voting to avoid a split vote which scum could take advantage of.
Now that you mention it, it would be dangerous for scum to give a list with no scum. If the list-creator was discovered to be scum, and the list was clear of scum, it would narrow down the hunt considerably. However, town would have no way of knowing that the list was clear of scum either.
Now, in the Batman game, I think that the villain team was able to take advantage of both Karkador's Batcomputer list and an actual investigative list (where someone was able to check whether or not there was scum among the people who voted for a particular player on one day) to distract and confuse town. A true random list of five players that may or may not have scum in it is less than worthless. If we lynched everyone on the list, odds are that we would lynch four townies to net one mafia. That isn't a good trade-off, particularly when there is one player we don't want to lynch in the player pool.
All told, I think that narrowing down our list of suspects and focusing on a small, arbitrary group of people is anti-town. I suspect that Daryl is just trying to put pressure on people to get them to talk, but at the same time, I think the list could easily be a mafia ploy to just confuse and distract people.
Matt Attack
Member
As always, I'm team Day 1 lynch. Even if I hate having to actually put my vote down.
Yep, I'm sure scum team would love nothing more than for us to focus on a tiny group of players, especially if there's no scum on the list (although I agree that if Darryl is scum that he did probably include a member or two on it). That being said, I have trouble imagining scum making a play like this so early on in the game. I'd say that we should keep it in mind, but not place too much stock in it. At least not until we have more reason to do so.
Yep, I'm sure scum team would love nothing more than for us to focus on a tiny group of players, especially if there's no scum on the list (although I agree that if Darryl is scum that he did probably include a member or two on it). That being said, I have trouble imagining scum making a play like this so early on in the game. I'd say that we should keep it in mind, but not place too much stock in it. At least not until we have more reason to do so.
In Batman scum (I think, never read their chat post game) tried to throw doubt at the list by NKing one of the targets because there were two scum in it. It was sort of helpful to town, WIFOM as hell, but I found it likely that there were indeed scum on it and focused on the list. Had we kept lynching them we'd have gotten one or maybe two scum.
The game would probably have been very different (even if still a scum victory) had there been no tie.
CrimsonFist
Member
I'm having trouble seeing it as an alignment indicative play at all. I don't see posting a list of names in that manner as a bold gambit which scum wouldn't want to do to avoid standing out though.
It's an (allegedly) RNG'd list, and it doesn't read like something which was intended to be taken overly seriously. Regardless of it being a town or scum play, I don't see there being much meaning behind those names.
Well, true. I openly admit that I highly enjoyed Karkador's Batcomputer gambit, even though it led Karkador to falsely suspect me and directly contributed to me being killed on Night 1. However, I think he constructed it in a very clever manner by 1) implying that it was the benefit of a role he had, and 2) creating the alternate name to give scum a target to focus on to deflect from the scum on the main list. Karkador was able to use these parts of his gambit to make the Mafia sweat and control their actions somewhat. However, I don't really see what Darryl is currently trying to accomplish.
Unless otherwise implied, that list isn't really going help/hurt us in the way the Bat computer thing did since you've gone and stated it is random. As always, I'm adamantly on the lynch train for Day 1.
I was thinking about roles for the game and was thinking about three specific characters, specifically who might be millers. Given that we win when just Amity Park residents are alive makes me curious about Vlad Plasmius, third party perhaps? Vlad does indeed have a mansion in Amity Park, but he's from Wisconsin and is of course half-ghost and a villain for a long part of the show.
There could be cop who sees Danny or Dani as either normal humans or ghosts depending on who is the cop. I could see it being Danny's dad, who would then always be wrong about his ghosthood. There is of course also the option that either of the DP's are anti-town, more likely Dani if I had to guess. I wish we would be able to get this part of the game figured out, how the half-ghosts relate to alignment, before we get too deep in it.
I was thinking about roles for the game and was thinking about three specific characters, specifically who might be millers. Given that we win when just Amity Park residents are alive makes me curious about Vlad Plasmius, third party perhaps? Vlad does indeed have a mansion in Amity Park, but he's from Wisconsin and is of course half-ghost and a villain for a long part of the show.
There could be cop who sees Danny or Dani as either normal humans or ghosts depending on who is the cop. I could see it being Danny's dad, who would then always be wrong about his ghosthood. There is of course also the option that either of the DP's are anti-town, more likely Dani if I had to guess. I wish we would be able to get this part of the game figured out, how the half-ghosts relate to alignment, before we get too deep in it.
Matt Attack
Member
I'm not saying that it would be a bold, risky gambit. Rather, regardless of how strong or weak of a gambit it would be, I can't see what scum would actually stand to gain from a play like this. I mean, we've already pretty much agreed that while we can't determine if it's actually RNG-based or not, it's basically meaningless. For the list to have any noticeable pro-scum effect, I feel like it relies on town being exceptionally dumb. I suppose that, as SkyOdin pointed out, it's gotten us talking, so if they wanted that to happen then they succeeded.
Semantics. I agree that it was sort of useful in Batman, but doesn't mean anything here.
While I don't see the point of what Darryl did I never expect scum to be drawing attention to themselves like this. It shot me in the foot with Blarg, but for most people that seems to be the case
what a load of words
StarSketch
Banned
I'm 3 hours late and we haven't descended into total chaos yet. I am disappointed.
make a bat list and start the chaos
Hey, this is Mafia. Presuming that there are people here who are lying to me feels like the safe bet.
ok that's fair enough
What if I'm a Tanner that is also a Tracker and Arsonist?