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Danny Phantom Mafia |OT| Your lynch doesn't stand a ghost of a chance!

...no?

bleh, fine, let's go get something.

VOTE: Flame_AC

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Greetings friends. If you are reading this, I am still alive.

I want to make the case against StarSketch today.



Off the mark... how exactly? She never explains her reasoning. This is a pretty obvious attempt to join Rats off To You (who I don't think is scum) and attempt a bandwagon.




And then look at her response when I call her out on an obvious bandwagon.

Her reasoning magically switches from "you're off the mark" to "well I have no idea who might be scum and who might be town so I went with whoever."

"I wanted to get a vote in that I thought would gain traction" is not at all like "you're off the mark."

And if I was so off the mark, why does she later have no idea who may be town and who may be scum? Wouldn't be being off the mark "quite a bit" mean she at least soft town reads my scum reads?

Note that this was in response to me voting Darryl.

Starsketch, pls respond. And give me a read on Darryl.

And also

Vote: StarSketch

God I hate long night cycles, I always forget what I did the previous phase.

-backreads to get context-

Ok.

I specifically said I didn't have any SCUM reads. I never said anything about town. I have a few town reads. Darryl is one of them.
 

Darryl

Banned
1.

Ty4on felt the need to "WTF was that?" when the day was ending.

WTF was that?

Meaning he was watching the thread. This is especially curious after post #502. After reading that post, you'd think Ty4on would think the people he's fielding against SS is scummy.

Maybe he doesn't think Sky_Odin was scummy. But if so, why didn't he try to speak up for SkyOdin? Instead he waits for him to get lynched to react. He doesn't even follow up SS on her post. He waits until the day ends to "WTF" about the outcome. This comes across as very removed behavior to me.

2.

I'd be happy with Xam or Starsketch for the lynch. Blarg, you entertain me, but your persistence on the typo seems a little scummy too. Most scum wouldn't want to be in the limelight as much as Blarg is right now, but Blarg has to be in the limelight or he'd look even more suspicious.

This is just 30 minutes before the day ends. You were here right on the deadline. Why didn't you vote? Is there no conviction behind your opinions? You would've gotten her lynched after all.
 
1.

Ty4on felt the need to "WTF was that?" when the day was ending.



Meaning he was watching the thread. This is especially curious after post #502. After reading that post, you'd think Ty4on would think the people he's fielding against SS is scummy.

Maybe he doesn't think Sky_Odin was scummy. But if so, why didn't he try to speak up for SkyOdin? Instead he waits for him to get lynched to react. He doesn't even follow up SS on her post. He waits until the day ends to "WTF" about the outcome. This comes across as very removed behavior to me.

2.



This is just 30 minutes before the day ends. You were here right on the deadline. Why didn't you vote? Is there no conviction behind your opinions? You would've gotten her lynched after all.

I'm really confused by all this as well. These two backing off would make sense if I were scum and they were my partners...But I'm not, so it doesn;t really make sense?

Someone is going to read that as me trying to deflect, but whatever. The truth will come out at some point.
 
(I apologize for my silence, it took some time to understand the expected flow of the day cycle and game. I'm sorry.)

np. take your time

Overall, I think that D1 is always going to be a challenge in making the right decisions when we lack the much needed context or information on everyone around us.

yep

Having said that, Blarg's apparent dominance of this thread and being so quick to lynch people is curious

It only seems like fairly odd behaviour, but I assure you I'm nothing out of the ordinary.

and the way Blarg and Xam have been working in tandem is equally so.

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1.

Ty4on felt the need to "WTF was that?" when the day was ending.



Meaning he was watching the thread. This is especially curious after post #502. After reading that post, you'd think Ty4on would think the people he's fielding against SS is scummy.

Maybe he doesn't think Sky_Odin was scummy. But if so, why didn't he try to speak up for SkyOdin? Instead he waits for him to get lynched to react. He doesn't even follow up SS on her post. He waits until the day ends to "WTF" about the outcome. This comes across as very removed behavior to me.

2.



This is just 30 minutes before the day ends. You were here right on the deadline. Why didn't you vote? Is there no conviction behind your opinions? You would've gotten her lynched after all.

Darryl is right, you know.
 

Ty4on

Member
1.

Ty4on felt the need to "WTF was that?" when the day was ending.



Meaning he was watching the thread. This is especially curious after post #502. After reading that post, you'd think Ty4on would think the people he's fielding against SS is scummy.

Maybe he doesn't think Sky_Odin was scummy. But if so, why didn't he try to speak up for SkyOdin? Instead he waits for him to get lynched to react. He doesn't even follow up SS on her post. He waits until the day ends to "WTF" about the outcome. This comes across as very removed behavior to me.
My WTF was directed at Blarg tieing the vote twice so close to the deadline. I didn't reply while he was doing it so I could have a vote ready to untie it.

I null read Sky. It surprised me when Crimson first put a vote on him so I looked back at his posts, but I couldn't find anything that looked particularly townie or scummy.
 
2.

This is just 30 minutes before the day ends. You were here right on the deadline. Why didn't you vote? Is there no conviction behind your opinions? You would've gotten her lynched after all.

At the time I posted Xam was tied for the most votes, and I preferred him over Starsketch, so I wasn't going to move my vote. I wasn't able to follow the thread closely at the end of the day.
 
And what the heck I'll drop a vote on Xam again too because I still find him scummy for his double dubious bandwagon.

Vote: Xamtheking
 
Sorry guys but I won't be that active until tomorrow. E3 party!

Jesus though. The enabler sounds like he literally powers DP so now that he's dead does DP not have his powers to the fullest? Wow.
 

Ty4on

Member
Why don't you think Darryl is scum?
Why don't you think they're scum either?
SS could be scum. What I'm most curious about is the silence of yesterday's lynch. There was hardly any end of day discussion. People were here. They are always here. So why didn't they participate?

1. Scum was on the line (StarSketch) and they didn't want it to become obvious they were attached.

2. Scum was fine with the end of day results either way.

Regardless my eyes are primarily on the people who decided that it wasn't worth having an opinion on Day 1. What the fuck?

I didn't do a good job of initiating one, but there really wasn't any conversation going on. My question to Star was an attempt at starting something.

Activity wise it's hard to say, but it seemed more like inactive town than worried scum. Star's behaviour didn't really mirror scum on the chopping board either.
 

Ty4on

Member
Hmm I actually am undecided on that. Star said I was "well off the mark."

I'm 95% certain Star is scum because she was really obvious about it. The question is was she defending Darryl as a fellow scum or not.

Why would she then be defending him like this when she's a likely lynch target today?

I'm curious of your Rats read as well. Don't think I've seen why you town read him if I read that correctly.
 
Why would she then be defending him like this when she's a likely lynch target today?

I'm curious of your Rats read as well. Don't think I've seen why you town read him if I read that correctly.

Because going in the reverse from yesterday would look even more suspicious?

And Rats is only town read for me because I can't see him and Star both being scum. I think Star fucked up, but I don't think her fuckup involved voting the same as a fellow scum. I think she was fine going with Rats bandwagon because she could then shift blame on to Rats if I was actually lynched.
 
Why would she then be defending him like this when she's a likely lynch target today?

I'm curious of your Rats read as well. Don't think I've seen why you town read him if I read that correctly.

Honestly if I were scum I'd be trying way harder than this to defend myself.

But you know, It's whatever. If you wanna make yourself look bad, CB, it's your fall.
 
Honestly if I were scum I'd be trying way harder than this to defend myself.

But you know, It's whatever. If you wanna make yourself look bad, CB, it's your fall.

So if you were scum you would play extremely poorly and defend yourself really hard when you only have one vote on you?

Well played. I totally believe you.
 
I don't find Corn's case to be terribly persuasive. I've known Star to be a fairly passive Town player in the past, so this isn't at all out of character for her. Also, the crux of Corn's argument is the idea that it's unbelievable that two different Town players could find him to be a suitable lynch candidate.

I'm not saying anything one way or the other about either of their alignments, just saying I'm not buying the argument. Darryl makes some much stronger points in his post IMO.
 
I don't find Corn's case to be terribly persuasive. I've known Star to be a fairly passive Town player in the past, so this isn't at all out of character for her. Also, the crux of Corn's argument is the idea that it's unbelievable that two different Town players could find him to be a suitable lynch candidate.

I'm not saying anything one way or the other about either of their alignments, just saying I'm not buying the argument. Darryl makes some much stronger points in his post IMO.

That's such bullshit.

The crux of my argument has to do with her REASONING for voting for me being flimsy and changing without explanation.
 

Ty4on

Member
Corn's and Darryl's opening posts above feel pretty scummy, honestly

I could go for them right now, it's up to you though
Darryl is right, you know.
Could you extrapolate on this? One second you're OK lynching him and one post later he seems to be a strong town read.
I specifically said I didn't have any SCUM reads. I never said anything about town. I have a few town reads. Darryl is one of them.
I'm not saying anything one way or the other about either of their alignments, just saying I'm not buying the argument. Darryl makes some much stronger points in his post IMO.
Kind of the same question. What are your thoughts the points Darryl brought up?

Rats especially. I didn't like how he just seemed to agree with Darryl without saying why.
 

Ty4on

Member
Because going in the reverse from yesterday would look even more suspicious?

And Rats is only town read for me because I can't see him and Star both being scum. I think Star fucked up, but I don't think her fuckup involved voting the same as a fellow scum. I think she was fine going with Rats bandwagon because she could then shift blame on to Rats if I was actually lynched.
The way you wrote that you thought Rats was town made it look like an independent read. Do you have any read of him?
 
The way you wrote that you thought Rats was town made it look like an independent read. Do you have any read of him?

To clarify:

I believe Star is scum. Dependent on her being scum, I think Rats is town. Unless she really REALLY fucked up. But bandwagoning on a scummate's initial vote is really risky.

As for independently... null. There's a few things that give me pause, like him being fairly passive today. But everyone seems to be pretty passive so far. I know we have a bunch of time in the day left, but usually we have a few pressure votes on people at least.
 

ultron87

Member
Blarg, why did you try to tie the vote twice with a couple minutes left at the end of yesterday?

(Sorry I wasn't around for end thing, was out at lunch celebrating a co-worker's last day.)
 
Could you extrapolate on this? One second you're OK lynching him and one post later he seems to be a strong town read.


Kind of the same question. What are your thoughts the points Darryl brought up?

Rats especially. I didn't like how he just seemed to agree with Darryl without saying why.

I've expressed how I fell about this in the thread already, but basically, the last second voting behavior seemed pretty weird to me as well, and some of Darryl's behavior implies something specific.
 

Flame_AC

Member
One quick post before I head to bed.

It's laughable that Blarg or anyone else wants to lynch me.

At the time before my vote, we were on like a 6-5 split or something, something within one vote. Blarg had been changing his vote and forcing a tie and was still around. I purposely timed my post on the clock to appear in the final seconds of the day just so there could be no tie or other shenanigans.

Just to drop a vote:

Vote: Blargonaut
 
What you should have said was:

"Seeing as how Flame_AC beat the tie and hammer-voted SkyOdin in the last ten seconds of the Day, it could be surmised that his vote against him was premeditated, pre-typed and ready to push in an instant in order to save his possible scum partner StarSketch from being lynched; he preeminently knowing, of course, that SkyOdin was not scum as they were."​

IMO
 
"And Ty4on, after voting against StarSketch for no apparent reason; rather than withdraw it or participate in Yesterday's closing vote skirmish, he instead seemingly preferred to refrain, and feign his shock at how the voting proceeded.

One scum partner, StarSketch, on the precipice of banishment.

One scum partner, Flame_AC, fully ready to drop his pre-written vote in order to save StarSketch via 'tie-breaker'.

One scum partner, Ty4on, deliberately holding back while his colleague Flame prepared to save StarSketch from lynching, so as not to incriminate all three of them at once through suggestive voting patterns.

If she had been lynched and flipped as scum, Ty4on would have gained quite reasonable Town cred.
"​
 
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