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Ubi: NX will "recapture lapsed Wii players," Nintendo "addressing the family market"

zma1013

Member
The Nintendo FamWii


Nintendo: "What you want?"

Fam: "Gimme dat controller with all the gimmicks."

Nintendo: "I got U Fam."

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Hale-XF11

Member
You seriously think this is the case? There's barely anything compelling enough to play in VR yet. Are kids truly putting away pennies to afford their 900$ gaming PC's with 600$ VR headsets? The price range alone is enough to ensure it doesn't see mass-market adoption anytime soon.

I'm willing to bet it will be the hottest must-have item this holiday. I'm thinking about PSVR though, not PC. Over 50 titles are supposed to be released this year for PSVR alone. The headset is relatively affordable for the already millions of PS4 owners.
 
evidently by some of the posts in this thread

To be fair people have a lot of viewpoints for types of games they want to play, some are focusing on the guy's words more than others and so on.

I don't really focus on this guys words but I do focus on what nintendo is and has been the last 10 or more years.

I also think about the games I want from them and it's simply not Wii Sports, Pikmin or motion controls but def. some wave race, regular star fox with pad controls etc

I am mostly going to 100 percent assume I get more of the Wii type stuff and not what I want. It is their choice of course on a person level means I just miss the games I want.

Not even saying their gimmick can't sell or do well but it will likely not be for me.
 

Dr. Malik

FlatAss_
Nintendo went after the family market with the Wii U and that didn't work out so I'm not sure why the NX will be any different.
 
I noticed this is the Just Dance boss talking. I mean of course that's all he cares about and would talk about. This quote really means nothing in the end.

Like I said all this literally could mean is you can use your iPhones and iPads in conjunction with the NX...
 

LewieP

Member
I hope that the biggest thing Nintendo does for the casual audience is supporting phones/tablets as controllers (for certain uses, like with Just Dance or whatever).
 
You guys are sleeping on the potential here and reading too much into Ubi's comments

That said.. Its important to also not that NX is releasing into probably its toughest environment yet

Early 2017 is STACKED with high profile software, hardware and everything else under the sun

They DO have Zelda (which is driving some serious buzz) and the Nintendo brand.

All I can say for sure is that 2017 is going to be painful with the sheer amount of things i find myself interested in playing and buying
 

Effect

Member
Software sales statistics say it absolutely was not that type of console. Check the tie-ratio for games to systems sold. It's almost at the same level as Xbox 360 and PS3.

This. People have tried forever to push the narrative that the Wii only sold Wii Fit and Wii Sports when the actual sales data shows that to be a outright lie. People really need to stop.
 
I read this as they are changing how they address the family market, not about focusing on family market. Not sure what's the big deal here.
 
I think it is extremely important I decide whether or not I am going to buy this system before it is revealed or a game is announced. This is not at all a crazy stance to take and I am glad GAF has my back here.
 

m.i.s.

Banned
Is there? Kids game on phones and parents dont game much if at all. And when they do, on their phone.

We are all phone zombies now.

Well, think of it this way. 3DS has sold 60 m LTD and Wii U 12 m LTD.

I'm sure there's an overlap of 3DS and Wii U owners and many individuals will have bought more than one 3DS iteration but there is a sizeable market for Nintendo, casual, party, fitness, dance, sports games in the tens of millions.

Those Pokemon, Mario 2D, 3D, Kart, Party, Golf, Tennis, Donkey Kong, Starfox gamers aren't just going to vanish.

If Nintendo can get a console out at a mass market price (say, minus optical drive and hard disk to keep price down), the market will respond. Where else can they get Nintendo and quality, curated casual games on a dedicated console with a proven, family safe reputation?
 

Celine

Member
What if it had advanced tech? Better haptic feedback? Vitality sensor built in? I think stuff is out there that could make it work.
Maybe yes, maybe no.
It's hard to predict.

What I can say though is that NX need to have wiimote's virtues that is it need to excite people immediately and be very easy to understand.
What sold the Wii was good word of mouth, more than marketing.
 

18-Volt

Member
"Family audience" is a lost cause, it's basically impossible to recapture the original Wii owners. Mobile won't let them go. And Nintendo is not dumb enough to go through this for the third time. It's obvious to see what they're trying do by looking at their 3DS strategy and they want go way back in time. Like SNES/N64 times.
 
everyone saying Uh OH.

Wii destroyed everyone. REMEMBER?

Wii was a fluke and didnt maintain momentum to carry future products

Software has been the Nintendo story after the fact. Blue Ocean audience is too fickle to continuously gamble on

they are a Gaming company and like Sony and MS they should be doubling down on the the ACTUAL audience that feeds consistent growth

Not chasing Mobile Gacha whales.... well they should chase them on the side as they have been i guess lol
 
Huh? They've allowed M-Rated games on their systems since the ESRB ratings started.

Mortal Kombat 2 was completely uncensored on SNES.

Killer Instinct certainly wasn't seen as a "family-friendly" game in 1994, either.

When they learnt what Rare wanted to do with Conker's Bad Fur Day, they activetly encouraged them to continue development and helped with the marketing.

Also, people claiming that Nintendo doesn't seem to get that the market has moved to mobile gaming have obviously utterly forgotten what NX is supposed to be.
 
"Family audience" is a lost cause, it's basically impossible to recapture the original Wii owners. Mobile won't let them go. And Nintendo is not dumb enough to go through this for the third time. It's obvious to see what they're trying do by looking at their 3DS strategy and they want go way back in time. Like SNES/N64 times.

You know, Minecraft finds over half it's audience on Non mobile products (console or pc). If the NX is a compelling machine people will be interested in it.
 

wrowa

Member
I said it before, I'll say it again: Nintendo going after the 20-something target audience of most modern AAA games would be a battle they can only lose. A cheap low-power device that's ideally suited for Nintendo's first party line-up while being cheap enough that families and people who play games more casually can afford it without giving the purchase much thought, would be ideal for Nintendo.

The idea of a powerful console rivaling Neo and Scorpio is cool, but practically not a good fit for Nintendo.
 
Well, we know it will have a touchscreen controller because of Zelda, we also know it will play games like Zelda so hopefully that still means physical buttons, and we know it will have a game like Zelda at launch. Even if you think Zelda looks like crap, the hints are there that things will be just as much the same as they will be different.
 

orioto

Good Art™
I just hope this whole focus on Zelda at this E3 isn't some kind of farewell gift to core gaming.

That would explain why they focused on the WiiU version, if the game won't be the focus on the NX cause it'll be more casual. It had to shine in that gen before the next one.
 

Trago

Member
At most, I expect the lineup to look a bit like the 3DS's.

Lot's of Japanese, first party, and indie support.

I'm not holding my breath for western publishers.
 

Sterok

Member
If they want Wii numbers, they need the Wii audience. And that is the family who wants a good time together with each other at the same time with intuitive controls. Which the Wii U didn't target. And which has nothing to do with mobile, so I don't know why people are talking about that. It's risky sure, but anything they do is a risk. I hope they try and replicate their past success with new and better products.
 
In other words, the guy is saying that he believes that the NX will be more popular than than the Wii U. Not everyone who skipped the Wii U after the Wi are just mobile users. Some of you are reading too much from this. He was just answering why he his casual should work for the NX.
 

Dynomutt

Member
And the game they mention that will bring back users is Just Dance? Wheres Watch Dogs, Far Cry, or Steep...


Im a Nintendo casual and the last Nintendo Console I purchased was GBA. For games like F-Zero, Golden Sun, Metroid and Mario Tennis. Awesome games!

Yesterday I watched 5 hours of Zelda. Like damn Zelda is cool but I'm not only going to play Zelda. Wheres the variety and cool IPs? Its still early to be fair.

I've played Just Dance and that is not the most enticing product. But ill hold my judgment until I hear more.
 
Well, we know it will have a touchscreen controller because of Zelda, we also know it will play games like Zelda so hopefully that still means physical buttons, and we know it will have a game like Zelda at launch. Even if you think Zelda looks like crap, the hints are there that things will be just as much the same as they will be different.

I'd say the way they've took out all the touchscreen stuff out of the new Zelda game is evidence that the NX definitely won't have an integrated touchscreen.
 

Athreous

Member
Nintendo should sell the 1st party games and just become a toy seller, so you can throw those crap ideas to casual non gamers .-.

We will never see that tech demo of zelda on wii U =(
 

Rncewind

Member
Can you feel it?

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Well i would still "jump" to the conclusion from one of the biggest publisher in the world who probally have a NX dev kit as from shady insiders which got always 50 % of information false and guessing all the time @Zelda no linkle


also where is the jumping when ubisoft outright tell this to media?
 
Thank god that Nintendo still have that excitement that I am going to get from buying Nx!

Playstation 4 my reaction was , yes great graphics but so what?

Xbone! - boring samey shoot em up **zzzzzz****

ok games Sony have a few exclusives that are exciting but there is nothing like New Zelda, or gameplay as tight as some stuff on wii u!

Nx is going to have a gimmick, plus thank god it will get the family crowd, but I also think it will hit the hardcore too, I have a hunch its going to be powerful but not as much as say scorpio. which I don't think will be utilised till a few years fully.

Nintendo all you have to do is give us a new Mario , truly innovative style, waveracer to bring some fun and please DO!! stay with local play its the game changer for most families and keeps the kids from just staying in their rooms.

BBTC
 
I just hope this whole focus on Zelda at this E3 isn't some kind of farewell gift to core gaming.

That would explain why they focused on the WiiU version, if the game won't be the focus on the NX cause it'll be more casual. It had to shine in that gen before the next one.
I don't think any of your assumptions is plausible or realistic. :p
 

axisofweevils

Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
I think this was pretty obvious judging by Ubi's E3. Just Dance is coming to NX. Every other game they showed wasn't.

Or to put it another way, it seems Ubi is giving the Wii U and the original Wii as much support as the NX in 2017.
 

StereoVsn

Member
I'd say the way they've took out all the touchscreen stuff out of the new Zelda game is evidence that the NX definitely won't have an integrated touchscreen.
Yeah, they specifically mentioned that you can just play it with the Pro controller and that screen does not really do anything. Even the map is on the big screen.
 

DarkKyo

Member
I think the Wii market was a flash in the pan, those people have moved to mobile games

What?? I was a part of that Wii market, and I certainly never moved onto shitty mobile games. I'm the demographic they are talking about. Aging Nintendo fanboy excited for a fresh console experience and more first party stuff.
I should mention I was crazy about the Wii but never bought a Wii U, so I definitely "lapsed."
 

Bishop89

Member
I think Nintendo have always been pretty firmly focused on 'family' gaming. In fact, it's only really since the Gamecube (besides Conker) that they've allowed less family friendly stuff on their systems.

You know what I mean.

I look at something like the n64/GC for the kind of games they make and the way they advertised and targetted the hardcore demographic.

Wii is worst case scenario for me. I hated that gen for nintendo.
 
I don't think he could have said anything more horrifying. Maybe it just means that it's appealing to everyone, like the NES was? 😔
 

thefro

Member
Here's what Nintendo's CEO said back in December to Time, for reference:

Time said:
Kimishima says Nintendo has learned the lessons of the previous generation and won’t make the same mistakes. “I can assure you we’re not building the next version of Wii or Wii U,” he says. “[NX] is something unique and different. It’s something where we have to move away from those platforms in order to make it something that will appeal.”

Also remember that Iwata hinted that NX may be a family of devices, so there could be a cheap version and a "core gamer" version with more power, potentially.
 
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