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Ubi: NX will "recapture lapsed Wii players," Nintendo "addressing the family market"
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Hale-XF11
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If they go the route of a gimmick, it better be more compelling than VR, because that's what all the kids are saving up for. Either that or NX is so cheap, nobody can say no to it.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Dead on arrival NX
I watched that demo and got pretty excited. This news put me back on the fence though.
Zombie James
Banned
Oh no... come on, Nintendo. You have to be smarter than this.
Those are still in the non-showfloor demo. Nintendolife played that version on Sunday.
Hibiki Kurosawa
Member
That's exactly what I was thinking. I want to be wrong, but I just don't see that player base coming back.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
Sounds DOA
Katana_Strikes
Member
It's a risk and gamble of course. But it's one they need to take. They cannot compete directly with MS and Sony like for like and gave to do something different. They have to attract casual/non gamers because outside of Nintendo fans, that's the only market they have. Sony/MS fans aren't going to convert to Nintendo games and give up what they've got now.
So in that sense, it makes sense to attack this market yet again. They can't win any other way. So it's that or bust regardless.
So in that sense, it makes sense to attack this market yet again. They can't win any other way. So it's that or bust regardless.
Milly Osworth
Member
Is there? Kids game on phones and parents dont game much if at all. And when they do, on their phone.
We are all phone zombies now.
Jack The Nipper
Banned
doesnt take a brain to understand what nintendo will try. Guesses of gimmicks are going to likely play out
Nintendo is still making games for the failed pad for crying out loud, they still are tryig to pertain to their "base" This is not smart business, should have dropped that thing out completely in year one and started making games , controllers like many of us called for back then (we even assumed they would take it out)
decoyplatypus
Member
I think it's reasonable for Nintendo to target an expanded audience again. But they ceded so much ground to Apple et al. It's a tougher market now.
I ithink it was the only announcement from any of the major 3rd parties across all the conferences
Serenitynow
Member
Whether you like it or not, this is good news for the business. If Nintendo ignored the casual crowd and attempted to be a third version of Sony/Microsoft, they'd probably have the weakest new console next year and it'd be Wii U all over again. Mass market is how Nintendo survives.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
So accurate
Really?
You think the Wii was not just a gimmick machine that pulled in people with Wii sports and then gathered dust till Wiffit etc?
Fourth Storm
Member
Ooh, missed that tidbit. That's certainly an interesting clue.
DrROBschiz
Member
Ehhh
I guess there is no stopping the pessimism at this point
Precedent is too powerful lol
But hey. Zelda is a positive start in the right direction and the fact that its Pro Controller friendly on the WiiU make me think that they are going back to roots for the core functionality, bringing the OS and features up to current standards, and whatever the gimmick is... wont take away from it being a core gaming focused system
I say this with zero evidence and this is Nintendo
daaaaaaaaaamn people are fucking fickle, if the thing this guy said was "nx will be the more hardcore oriented machine ever" will everybody be this pessimist about it? of course people will be doubting it, but here we are, already telling the nx is DOA just because some guy said some things
Zombie James
Banned
So Nintendo can't compete with MS and Sony because reasons and in order to be different their only option is to cater to a market that doesn't exist.... This sounds so defeatist.
I don't think the inventory selection is in any demo. I believe Nintendolife mentioned a map feature on the GamePad, which is odd because Aonuma specifically mentioned in an interview that they cut the map feature.
Regardless, it is unlikely that the NX is going to have full blown motion control as the primary focus, or the NX Zelda version would be a "different experience"
No way. Mobile games don't bring families together, and neither did the Wii U concept.
That audience is waiting to be recaptured.
I sincerely disagree that mobile sales are eating into console sales. Mobile sales are definitely eating into handheld sales though.
Nevertheless, I genuinely believe the family oriented market is still there, and sort of always will be there.
I don't think the same "trick" will work twice.
Wiimote is today a known quantity that cannot excite as it did back in 2006.
They didn't.
Council Pop
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I don't think the Wii audience have moved on to mobile games, they've just moved on to other things which aren't gaming. There isn't some sort of natural order that says people must dedicate X amount of time to playing video games. Most of the people who were into the Wii are now probably doing something else non-game related but still zeitgeisty with that time (twitter and instagram as an obvious example, or the explosion of podcast listening as a less obvious example).
I think Nintendo have always been pretty firmly focused on 'family' gaming. In fact, it's only really since the Gamecube (besides Conker) that they've allowed less family friendly stuff on their systems.
I think Nintendo have always been pretty firmly focused on 'family' gaming. In fact, it's only really since the Gamecube (besides Conker) that they've allowed less family friendly stuff on their systems.
Jack The Nipper
Banned
Can easily have this therad without his comments to be fair. can quote me
We will see a gimmick and a lot of us won't be so down on it when it comes to the game play we want from nintendo.
BobTheFork
Member
It's been some time since then and the Wii audience grew and moved on (at least the dedicated games)
I imagine it gets much harder to deal with a lapsed Wii as you get older.
I imagine it gets much harder to deal with a lapsed Wii as you get older.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Software sales statistics say it absolutely was not that type of console. Check the tie-ratio for games to systems sold. It's almost at the same level as Xbox 360 and PS3.
Celine said:
What if it had advanced tech? Better haptic feedback? Vitality sensor built in? I think stuff is out there that could make it work. My guess is they won't go that route exclusively, though. I bet they pack a traditional controller with each one.
bumpkin
Member
*The Office "Please god no" video clip*
The Wii was wonderful for what it was, but gimmicks need to die. The PS4 proves that gamers will buy a traditional console if it has awesome, impressive games. You don't need to make players do the hokey pokey while controlling their character to sell a system.
The Wii was wonderful for what it was, but gimmicks need to die. The PS4 proves that gamers will buy a traditional console if it has awesome, impressive games. You don't need to make players do the hokey pokey while controlling their character to sell a system.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
And also looking at their past console. By all means be optimistic as you want bit don't act there's no reason for people not to be
You know what that means? Cheap price!
I'm still standing by my $250 price point.
As for the family market, this is good because Sony and Microsoft sure as hell don't care about that demographic, which is really a shame considering that they have the chance to right now with the Wii U flopping hard.
This could still be a challenge for Nintendo because a lot of kids are on mobile.
I'm still standing by my $250 price point.
As for the family market, this is good because Sony and Microsoft sure as hell don't care about that demographic, which is really a shame considering that they have the chance to right now with the Wii U flopping hard.
This could still be a challenge for Nintendo because a lot of kids are on mobile.
You seriously think this is the case? There's barely anything compelling enough to play in VR yet. Are kids truly putting away pennies to afford their 900$ gaming PC's with 600$ VR headsets? The price range alone is enough to ensure it doesn't see mass-market adoption anytime soon.
I think if there's one company that can make lightning strike twice, it's going to be Nintendo. Even though the Wii-U was trash from day one, I hope they still have some of that creative and innovative spirit left to make families and kids take note with a cheap console with a neat 'hook'.
The Abominable Snowman
Member
I'd be extremely happy if this is the case. There's nothing that hits the spot like the Wii. Hardly anyone makes party games or games that you can play with family and friends on a whim.
Even if it's just a buffed up ChromeCast, the gaming potential there is immense.
Even if it's just a buffed up ChromeCast, the gaming potential there is immense.
yeah, thats why everytime they equipped new gear and weapons and select a rune, the menu will come up
Empyrean Heaven
Member
This is a fun thread.
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
evidently by some of the posts in this thread
Astral Dog
Member
Good.
(If they actually manage to do it this time)
(If they actually manage to do it this time)
DrROBschiz
Member
I think the key takeaway is
Its not a ground up Gamepad game like how Skyward Sword is locked into being a Motion Plus game
Its closer to Twilight Princess in that it takes advantage of the gamepad but is not bound by it
FWIW, Just Dance seems like the most safe thing to announce for any console where information isn't being made public for it just yet since it has such a low, low, low tech barrier. They've even switched to having smartphones be the primary method of input for those games now.
LambdaTeos
Member
This sounds like they are trying to make a console that is not so imposing like Ps4 or Xbox One, but a console that can be used by casual gamers... which is fine
New consoles like Ps4 Neo and Scorpio can be pretty scary to casual people, since most of the terminology used in their description can be hard to understand
Talking as a person who knows nothing about new computers or specs of new consoles, making a simple, familiar console I can understand without too much knowledge is really good.
If they integrate things that casual people use for entertaining (meaning cellphones and no high end computer or advanced consoles) I can see the new system being a hit
But it's just my opinion..
New consoles like Ps4 Neo and Scorpio can be pretty scary to casual people, since most of the terminology used in their description can be hard to understand
Talking as a person who knows nothing about new computers or specs of new consoles, making a simple, familiar console I can understand without too much knowledge is really good.
If they integrate things that casual people use for entertaining (meaning cellphones and no high end computer or advanced consoles) I can see the new system being a hit
But it's just my opinion..
Huh? They've allowed M-Rated games on their systems since the ESRB ratings started.
Mortal Kombat 2 was completely uncensored on SNES.
Killer Instinct certainly wasn't seen as a "family-friendly" game in 1994, either.
backflip10019
Member
For that statement to be true, the NX would have to be a mobile phone. The casual Wii gaming audience has moved on.
I don't get what's the big deal here.
Nintendo have always gone for the "family market" from the very beginning.
How is that all of a sudden a bad thing?
If they are able to do something unexpected which really clicks with their software designs, it might turn their fortunes around yet again.
It's a huge gamble as always, but you never know with them.
Nintendo have always gone for the "family market" from the very beginning.
How is that all of a sudden a bad thing?
If they are able to do something unexpected which really clicks with their software designs, it might turn their fortunes around yet again.
It's a huge gamble as always, but you never know with them.