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[Salamando]

Known her for quite a while. But first date I would say.
We're hanging out a few hours before the thing, then a few hours after.

Does she know it's a first date?

Musicals don't require much forethought. Just go with a casual button-down and nice pants (jeans are fine if it's a community theatre, slacks if it's in someplace fancier). When the audience claps, clap. When the audience stands, stand. And pay attention since talking about the performance post-date will likely happen.

 

[-Plasma Reus-]

Does she know it's a first date?

I'd laugh, but I am aware many people fall in the trap of assuming they are on a date with someone who just wants to hang out.

Musicals don't require much forethought. Just go with a casual button-down and nice pants (jeans are fine if it's a community theatre, slacks if it's in someplace fancier). When the audience claps, clap.When the audience stands, stand. And pay attention since talking about the performance post-date will likely happen.

It's a fancy place, and I like to dress well in general. So jeans is no go.

 

[Blitzrules240]

Bit the bullet and messaged like 13 different girls on OkCupid. Just trying to get my numbers up. I feel like they're too low. Usually I have one to two potential girls to date but I just feel like I need more options.

 

[Salamando]

I'd laugh, but I am aware many people fall in the trap of assuming they are on a date with someone who just wants to hang out.

It's a fancy place, and I like to dress well in general. So jeans is no go.

Yes, it's happened to...people...I definitely never went to a musical with a girl I'd known for awhile, not sure if it was a date or not ¬_¬ Nope! Never happened to me, certainly not that weekend about a month ago!

Spoiler

I asked her out proper a week later, and we've been dating since

 

[Clay Davis]

She just left and it went really well.

We talked things through and it ended with us kissing and officially labelling our relationship. I still haven't told her everything, I'm still ashamed to tell her some things, it's difficult to bring up certain subjects and I worry about her reaction even though she's very open and accepting of most things I've told her so far.

I'm in a relationship though, it still doesn't feel real and I feel like I might wake up any minute and find out it was all a dream.

Thank you again everyone, for the advice and letting me post my thoughts without judgement.

 

[gwailo]

Just FYI it is generally bad form to use people's names.

 

[Clay Davis]

Just FYI it is generally bad form to use people's names.

Sorry. I've edited the name, I didn't realise it would be a problem.

 

[Xun]

Is it wrong to be undecided?

A part of me simply wants a bit of fun, but then there's a part of me which wants something more than that.

That said I'm not looking to settle down at all because of my lack of experience.

It's a strange one.

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

Well I did meet a girl again, but not online. I was at the pool earlier. Eventually it was just her and I left, and as she was swimming, I brought up about the pool being warm. We then started talking about each other, she tells me her name and I tell her mine. She moved down to my area from Key West a couple of weeks ago. I tell her about some of the nice night life places to visit since she said she's not too familiar with the area still.

She eventually needs to use the bathroom. When she comes back, she tells me she's gonna read her book. That's when I get up tell her itd be great to get together, and show her around the downtown area. I get her number. I enter her first name, and she even gives me her last name? Never had that happen. I text her my full name. Number seemed legit since she looked to the side to her phone, and mentioned the text. Told her just in case she doesn't know how my name is spelled.

I eventually leave, and I go up to her and tell her it was great meeting her, and I'll be in touch to plan something this weekend.

It's weird talking to a woman in person to get their number and go plan to go out. Reason why I say this is because it's been so long, and I'm so used to online dating.

Hopefully we meet up. She's actually very pretty. Seems out of my league. And yes, Zack will give me shit for saying that. But until she officially agrees on a date, I'll keep my expectations in check.

But I am proud of myself for approaching a woman in public and landing a number.

 

[hawkshockey11]

So I usually don't need to post here since I usually can deal with stuff on my own, but I'm in a bit of an emotional pickle currently.

So I had been seeing someone for the last 6 months and she sort of lost interest recently and we had a crossroads talk and decided to stop being a couple last week (the usual). I usually take these pretty hard but I always know I survive an prosper after so that's not the issue.

I've been trying to not contact at all because it sucks to see/talk/think about her. I've been doing pretty good and was excited to be going to an out of town concert with her roommate/my friend this weekend by ourselves (planned months ago); However today she asked if it were OK if my "ex" could come .

I didn't want to be dramatic so i said I didn't care but it kind of ruins my excitement for the weekend and I feel that it can undo all the emotional ground I've made in the last week without seeing her. Not sure how to go about this weekend.

Should I sort of ignore her? Should I be cordial and pretend nothing has changed? Let her know how I feel right now? Not going isn't an option because I really want to go and no matter how this weekend goes, it will be better than staying home.

I want to be friends someday but it's definitely too soon for me to feel that way.

Well I did meet a girl again, but not online. I was at the pool earlier. Eventually it was just her and I left, and as she was swimming, I brought up about the pool being warm. We then started talking about each other, she tells me her name and I tell her mine. She moved down to my area from Key West a couple of weeks ago. I tell her about some of the nice night life places to visit since she said she's not too familiar with the area still.

She eventually needs to use the bathroom. When she comes back, she tells me she's gonna read her book. That's when I get up tell her itd be great to get together, and show her around the downtown area. I get her number. I enter her first name, and she even gives me her last name? Never had that happen. I text her my full name. Number seemed legit since she looked to the side to her phone, and mentioned the text. Told her just in case she doesn't know how my name is spelled.

I eventually leave, and I go up to her and tell her it was great meeting her, and I'll be in touch to plan something this weekend.

It's weird talking to a woman in person to get their number and go plan to go out. Reason why I say this is because it's been so long, and I'm so used to online dating.

Hopefully we meet up. She's actually very pretty. Seems out of my league. And yes, Zack will give me shit for saying that. But until she officially agrees on a date, I'll keep my expectations in check.

But I am proud of myself for approaching a woman in public and landing a number.

feels good being free from the shackles of online dating, don't it?

 

[Ristifer]

I'd laugh, but I am aware many people fall in the trap of assuming they are on a date with someone who just wants to hang out.

This is where I am right now with this one gal. We're supposed to go out, but I'm not actually sure if she thinks it's a date or not...

 

[Lone_Prodigy]

Is it wrong to be undecided?

A part of me simply wants a bit of fun, but then there's a part of me which wants something more than that.

That said I'm not looking to settle down at all because of my lack of experience.

It's a strange one.

Nothing wrong with being undecided, as long as you aren't misleading the other person.

Well I did meet a girl again, but not online. I was at the pool earlier. Eventually it was just her and I left, and as she was swimming, I brought up about the pool being warm. We then started talking about each other, she tells me her name and I tell her mine. She moved down to my area from Key West a couple of weeks ago. I tell her about some of the nice night life places to visit since she said she's not too familiar with the area still.

How long did you wait until you were the last two at the pool?

I kid, I kid, good on you for getting a number.

But seriously though, do you still look like a prune?

Spoiler

I'm sorry.

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

Ok, I'll admit, that was good.


But hopefully she doesn't agree to go out with me just because she's new, and looking for someone to show her around. When should I text her? The next olympics?

Actually there was a guy laying out near the two of us when we were talking and when I got her number.

Edit-and yes it does feel good to be free from the shackles.

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

So, um, not to be paranoid, but I have an iPhone. When I entered her contact info, and got to add phone number and hit the green circle, what popped up first was "home fax". I entered her number. Saved it. As I said I texted her my full name afterwards. I then walk to the pool towards her. She glanced at her phone and looked at me I think to acknowledge she got it. She muttered something.

i texted her an hour ago, and although I'm not freaking out because she hasn't replied back yet, I'm wondering if by adding her number to home fax on my iPhone, she didn't really get the text? It did say "text message", so she obviously doesn't have an iPhone.

Am I safe? I did change from home fax to cellular on my iPhone, and the message is still there, and still says "text message".

Just asking for those who are really familiar with these phones. I just don't want to text her again asking if she got my message.

 

[Advocatus Diaboli]

So, um, not to be paranoid, but I have an iPhone. When I entered her contact info, and got to add phone number and hit the green circle, what popped up first was "home fax". I entered her number. Saved it. As I said I texted her my full name afterwards. I then walk to the pool towards her. She glanced at her phone and looked at me I think to acknowledge she got it. She muttered something.

i texted her an hour ago, and although I'm not freaking out because she hasn't replied back yet, I'm wondering if by adding her number to home fax on my iPhone, she didn't really get the text? It did say "text message", so she obviously doesn't have an iPhone.

Am I safe? I did change from home fax to cellular on my iPhone, and the message is still there, and still says "text message".

Just asking for those who are really familiar with these phones. I just don't want to text her again asking if she got my message.

It's a local label on your phone. It has nothing to do with SMS (green bubble) or iMessage (blue bubble) communication.

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

So she definitely received it?

Thanks.

And would be strange if she ghosts me. I mean she did give me her full real name. Would be awkward to run across her at our community pool.

I have a feeling she was just being nice, and didn't want to come off rude by saying no right in front of me, so she decided to give me her number and ignore whatever texts I send her. Or block, I dunno.

 

[Marz]

She seems needy/clingy. If you've been dating for a bit she should know that you're at work.

Does she also work nights also? When I worked 3rd shift it was pretty much impossible to have any sort of relationship with anyone else that didn't.

Nah she works in the daytime. I mean I explained to her that I work nights beforehand and my time wouldn't be so readily available 24/7, but it's like she's not getting it.

 

[Messofanego]

So I was searching on Reddit for a place to post these screencaps of this creepy guy I was talking to, and came across this thread. I think it's nice to show to the people that don't quite understand why women ghost/give numbers when not interested/whatever instead of saying no. Some highlights:

Asking me out 12 more times, never leaving me alone about it, spreading rumors to our mutual friends about me, plotting to "get" me. And then having the nerve to get into a fight with a friend of his - my now-husband - when we started dating because "he called dibs."
I invited a friend to spend the night on the couch to avoid a long late-night drive. When he came into my bedroom at night, and was refused, he raped me.​

I turned him down for a second date and he told me he should have raped me on the first one because I was a frigid (slur) who'd never get laid any other way, and also nobody would ever love me.​

One guy, a cop, someone I actually was friends with as a child, tried to entrap me in crimes after I turned him down.​

Oh my god this actually gave me shivers (your edit). It reminded me of a similar thing that happened to an old friend at a party. He pinned her down on a bed and started kissing her, the door was open and she was crying and tried yelling for help. Two guys walked past making encouraging sounds towards the guy pinning her down. Until one other guy was walking past and stopped and said, "Uh, okay, I think you should stop now." to the guy on top of her.​

He stuck his fingers up my skirt and into me. On the dance floor. Because I said I wouldn't go home with him. He thought he could get away with it because he was on the uni volleyball team and was tall and handsome. Fucking no.​

A hand round my throat and being dragged down a back alley. Nothing happened, thankfully.​

This is only a very small sampling of what's in that thread. So yeah, not getting the no sucks, trust me, but when this is what women have to deal with, saying no is a very difficult thing to do.

Thanks for posting these, it's good to understand the hesitation to say no because not every man is capable of handling rejection and so lashes out in dangerous ways.

 

[Jokab]

So I usually don't need to post here since I usually can deal with stuff on my own, but I'm in a bit of an emotional pickle currently.

So I had been seeing someone for the last 6 months and she sort of lost interest recently and we had a crossroads talk and decided to stop being a couple last week (the usual). I usually take these pretty hard but I always know I survive an prosper after so that's not the issue.

I've been trying to not contact at all because it sucks to see/talk/think about her. I've been doing pretty good and was excited to be going to an out of town concert with her roommate/my friend this weekend by ourselves (planned months ago); However today she asked if it were OK if my "ex" could come .

I didn't want to be dramatic so i said I didn't care but it kind of ruins my excitement for the weekend and I feel that it can undo all the emotional ground I've made in the last week without seeing her. Not sure how to go about this weekend.

Should I sort of ignore her? Should I be cordial and pretend nothing has changed? Let her know how I feel right now? Not going isn't an option because I really want to go and no matter how this weekend goes, it will be better than staying home.

I want to be friends someday but it's definitely too soon for me to feel that way.




feels good being free from the shackles of online dating, don't it?

Just tell her how you feel. That part of your healing process is no contact whatsoever. She might have difficulties understanding that (I've had that response before) but just firmly state that you don't want contact right now.

 

[ZackieChan]

This is where I am right now with this one gal. We're supposed to go out, but I'm not actually sure if she thinks it's a date or not...

Only one way to remedy that. Text her something, and refer to your meetup as a date. "Hope you had a great day today. Looking forward to our date Saturday."

I dunno, maybe you can think of something relevant.

So I usually don't need to post here since I usually can deal with stuff on my own, but I'm in a bit of an emotional pickle currently.

So I had been seeing someone for the last 6 months and she sort of lost interest recently and we had a crossroads talk and decided to stop being a couple last week (the usual). I usually take these pretty hard but I always know I survive an prosper after so that's not the issue.

I've been trying to not contact at all because it sucks to see/talk/think about her. I've been doing pretty good and was excited to be going to an out of town concert with her roommate/my friend this weekend by ourselves (planned months ago); However today she asked if it were OK if my "ex" could come .

I didn't want to be dramatic so i said I didn't care but it kind of ruins my excitement for the weekend and I feel that it can undo all the emotional ground I've made in the last week without seeing her. Not sure how to go about this weekend.

Should I sort of ignore her? Should I be cordial and pretend nothing has changed? Let her know how I feel right now? Not going isn't an option because I really want to go and no matter how this weekend goes, it will be better than staying home.

I want to be friends someday but it's definitely too soon for me to feel that way.




feels good being free from the shackles of online dating, don't it?

You should have said that it would, in fact, be a problem. Because it is. Is it too late to tell the friend that you would rather your ex wasn't there? Because I don't think it is healthy for you. Otherwise, I wouldn't go. Find a friend that isn't so connected with your ex, also.

So she definitely received it?

Thanks.

And would be strange if she ghosts me. I mean she did give me her full real name. Would be awkward to run across her at our community pool.

I have a feeling she was just being nice, and didn't want to come off rude by saying no right in front of me, so she decided to give me her number and ignore whatever texts I send her. Or block, I dunno.

Pull it back a bit, my man. It's just one girl and one text. You're in way too deep already, judging by the number of posts you've made about her already. Slow your roll. Try to meet some other women IRL in the meantime. It's kind of fun.

 

[Ristifer]

Only one way to remedy that. Text her something, and refer to your meetup as a date. "Hope you had a great day today. Looking forward to our date Saturday."

I dunno, maybe you can think of something relevant.

Honestly, that's exactly what I was going to do. I was just going to refer to it as a date in a text and then let it happen.

 

[ZackieChan]

Honestly, that's exactly what I was going to do. I was just going to refer to it as a date in a text and then let it happen.

Via con Dios

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

Only one way to remedy that. Text her something, and refer to your meetup as a date. "Hope you had a great day today. Looking forward to our date Saturday."

I dunno, maybe you can think of something relevant.



You should have said that it would, in fact, be a problem. Because it is. Is it too late to tell the friend that you would rather your ex wasn't there? Because I don't think it is healthy for you. Otherwise, I wouldn't go. Find a friend that isn't so connected with your ex, also.



Pull it back a bit, my man. It's just one girl and one text. You're in way too deep already, judging by the number of posts you've made about her already. Slow your roll. Try to meet some other women IRL in the meantime. It's kind of fun.

Oh I def I am. I was just wondering if she received it or not due to the contact info I entered, because I didn't want to send another while trying to explain to her I wasn't sure she received it. It'd just be awkward to see her again at the pool if she ends up ghosting me. But I'd try to make a friendly convo to break that awkwardness I think.

I texted her last night saying good evening, and how was her night, and it was great meeting her. Also sent a pic of my face saying if she needed one for a profile pic under my name. Probably shouldn't have done that. But whatever, it isn't too bad. I'm just so used to online dating with the exchanging more pics when messaging.

Although I met another girl on tinder, too, and she seems to be really into me, and we're meeting this Sunday, it's more rewarding and challenging I think to get a number face to face than online. And yes, it's fun.

 

[ZackieChan]

You were waiting on a reply, but you sent all that plus a photo of yourself in addition? Oh, no, child. That's creepy territory.

 

[Zakalwe]

You were waiting on a reply, but you sent all that plus a photo of yourself in addition? Oh, no, child. That's creepy territory.

This is well inside the territory, imo. I can't think of any way this wouldn't put someone off unless they were madly in love with you.

 

[Gotdatmoney]

Oh I def I am. I was just wondering if she received it or not due to the contact info I entered, because I didn't want to send another while trying to explain to her I wasn't sure she received it. It'd just be awkward to see her again at the pool if she ends up ghosting me. But I'd try to make a friendly convo to break that awkwardness I think.

I texted her last night saying good evening, and how was her night, and it was great meeting her. Also sent a pic of my face saying if she needed one for a profile pic under my name. Probably shouldn't have done that. But whatever, it isn't too bad. I'm just so used to online dating with the exchanging more pics when messaging.

Although I met another girl on tinder, too, and she seems to be really into me, and we're meeting this Sunday, it's more rewarding and challenging I think to get a number face to face than online. And yes, it's fun.

You're in too deep. I dunno man, do you know how to just leave things alone? Like if they don't respond just be like "oh cool" and then don't dwell on it?

If someone doesn't respond and you see them in public again all you have to do is be nice, pretend it didn't happen and keep the discussion short. Its only as weird as you make it.

 

[gwailo]

Dude, you made a whole thread about how dating is so exhausting. THIS sort of behavior is exactly why it is for you. Dating should be fun, but you treat it like a checklist/game where everything has to be perfect or it's full on panic mode. You have a stink of desperation on you and no matter how good looking you are or how good of a job you have, that sort of thing will almost always put off a woman, especially if you're trying to date someone around your age. Women in their 30s want guys who have their shit together, not someone that gets super clingy/needy after a couple of texts.

 

[Booser]

Sometimes I think my ex broke up with me to see if I would fight and beg her not to leave. Then I just think about how childish that is.

It happens. I get the feeling a recent ex started treating me like crap in order to get reassurances about our future and beg. I called her bluff and jumped on a plane back home. She was mad, but was pretending she wasn't.

You were waiting on a reply, but you sent all that plus a photo of yourself in addition? Oh, no, child. That's creepy territory.

Yep. Too far, too quick.

 

[Gotdatmoney]

You were waiting on a reply, but you sent all that plus a photo of yourself in addition? Oh, no, child. That's creepy territory.

Dating Age |OT6| - The Dating Ultimatum

 

[ZackieChan]

Dating Age |OT6| - The Dating Ultimatum

I lol'd

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

Yeah, I knew it was bad after I sent the text last night. It was a bit too much with the picture. I wasn't waiting for a reply from her, and sent all of those, either. Technically that text I sent her last night was really the first just to say it was nice meeting her.

I'm definitely going to pull back, but I doubt she'll respond, lol.

And here my original move was to just wait a couple of days to text her, and see if she wanted me to meet up. :-/

 

[ZackieChan]

I feel like you KNOW what you should (and shouldn't) be doing, but you just can't seem to relax with this stuff. You need to fill your life with other things, or something, so that you're genuinely too busy to be waiting on their texts, not just pretending that you're too busy by waiting a day while hoping that they text you first.

 

[Booser]

I feel like you KNOW what you should (and shouldn't) be doing, but you just can't seem to relax with this stuff. You need to fill your life with other things, or something, so that you're genuinely too busy to be waiting on their texts, not just pretending that you're too busy by waiting a day while hoping that they text you first.

Exactly. It's not just neediness but good old fashioned impatience too.

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

Yeah, you're right. Honestly it doesn't happen to every woman I meet. Im usually busy on my off days, like gym, grocery shopping, meeting up with friends, and it does help with taking the mind off the person, and just shooting a message if I'm not busy.

 

[ZackieChan]

Exactly. It's not just neediness but good old fashioned impatience too.

That's the second time someone's quoted me without it having my name in the quote. What gives?

 

[vern]

That's the second time someone's quoted me without it having my name in the quote. What gives?

Ego is getting too big. Gotta keep you in check.

 

[ZackieChan]

Ego is getting too big. Gotta keep you in check.

Right back at ya

 

[vern]

Right back at ya

How is Tinder working out for you out there in the motherland? I think you and Jason are gettin about the same amount of action

Edit: Actually I think he has more, Jason don't you have a FWB situation to fall back on still?

 

[Messofanego]

That's the second time someone's quoted me without it having my name in the quote. What gives?

I don't know, NeoGAF been acting weird lately.

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

How is Tinder working out for you out there in the motherland? I think you and Jason are gettin about the same amount of action

Edit: Actually I think he has more, Jason don't you have a FWB situation to fall back on still?

No, I called it off with her after the girl I made the thread about. For some reason, I just felt disgusted with myself. Hell, I couldn't even watch porn after the first few days she called it off. the FWB said I can always swing by whenever in the future.

Still can't believe I missed all those signs the first night she invited me over. Sometimes I feel like an idiot wrapped in a moron.

Oh well. One girl I'm seeing this Sunday night from Tinder, and I'm not acting like an idiot so far. Another girl from POF messaged me early in the morning. Really attractive, into fitness, and is a nurse. Though I must admit, even though there's a really.......really really good chance I blew with the pool girl, I'd rather meet up with her between the three.

 

[ZackieChan]

How is Tinder working out for you out there in the motherland? I think you and Jason are gettin about the same amount of action

Edit: Actually I think he has more, Jason don't you have a FWB situation to fall back on still?

A few matches. I'll hopefully meet up with this lawyer chick this week. Pickins are slim, though.

I don't know, NeoGAF been acting weird lately.

Seems to be working just fine

No, I called it off with her after the girl I made the thread about. For some reason, I just felt disgusted with myself. Hell, I couldn't even watch porn after the first few days she called it off. the FWB said I can always swing by whenever in the future.

Still can't believe I missed all those signs the first night she invited me over. Sometimes I feel like an idiot wrapped in a moron.

Oh well. One girl I'm seeing this Sunday night from Tinder, and I'm not acting like an idiot so far. Another girl from POF messaged me early in the morning. Really attractive, into fitness, and is a nurse. Though I must admit, even though there's a really.......really really good chance I blew with the pool girl, I'd rather meet up with her between the three.

You're fine. Just keep on keepin' on. Learn from each one. Keep working on yourself. I'm more excited about my Surface Pro coming today than I am about any potential dates in the next few weeks.

 

[Blitzrules240]

Gonna chalk up the social worker as an L. No contact for a week now. It's her loss, part of me thinks kissing her on the first date was a misstep but also texting her I could see myself wanting to get to know her better. Luckily, I have plans to meet up with a different girl Friday that's been chatting me up but I'm gonna try to keep it light. She just wants to hang out, so I'm not gonna try anything, unless I'm 100% certain it's the right call.

Gotta stop rushing.

 

[ZackieChan]

Sounds like just friends. Correct?

 

[TheOfficeMut]

You sent a pic of your face before she even responded to your initial texts?

lol shit is funny, man.

 

[gaiages]

Sigh, Jason.

Just sigh.

Everyone already told you what you did wrong, just, like, act more logical next time. You're doing fine with other women supposedly, so just... apply that to all women you're trying to date.

 

[Gotdatmoney]

part of me thinks kissing her on the first date was a misstep

Naw man. Why put it off? If a kiss is what ruins it the shit was never going to last anyway. Keep being forward (but not pushy) with what you want man. You're doing it right.

 

[hawkshockey11]

You should have said that it would, in fact, be a problem. Because it is. Is it too late to tell the friend that you would rather your ex wasn't there? Because I don't think it is healthy for you. Otherwise, I wouldn't go. Find a friend that isn't so connected with your ex, also.

I have other friends too. That's not an issue.

I just didn't want to be dramatic since I'm sure it's no big deal for her that I'll be there.

I think she bought her ticket already so that's out of the question :/

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

You sent a pic of your face before she even responded to your initial texts?

lol shit is funny, man.

No, not really. I texted her my full name at the pool, and that was it. No greeting or anything. She looked at me to confirm she received it.

Like 5 or 6 hours later I just sent a more formal text saying it was good meeting her, threw a light hearted joke about yoga (that she's into), and attached a pic of me if she needed on for my number. This was all in one text.

I view it technically as the first formal text, but whatever semantics. Still shouldn't have sent the pic in hindsight. Lesson learned.

 

[ZackieChan]

Naw man. Why put it off? If a kiss is what ruins it the shit was never going to last anyway. Keep being forward (but not pushy) with what you want man. You're doing it right.

 

[Cudder]

No, not really. I texted her my full name at the pool, and that was it. No greeting or anything. She looked at me to confirm she received it.

Like 5 or 6 hours later I just sent a more formal text saying it was good meeting her, threw a light hearted joke about yoga (that she's into), and attached a pic of me if she needed on for my number. This was all in one text.

I view it technically as the first formal text, but whatever semantics. Still shouldn't have sent the pic in hindsight. Lesson learned.

It's cringey no matter how you try to spin it in your head.