Best post I've read here. Thank you.
And it'll be likely ignored sigh
Best post I've read here. Thank you.
Any SCD capable of turning a low powered handheld console into the equivalent of a high powered home console would do so by containing the bulk of the hardware you would need to include in a console. Why not just make a console? By "SCD" you are just describing a home console that for some reason requires a separate handheld device to function.
Controls? You mean controls for the game they stripped all the gamepad functionality from? Even if so that would mean it would be a different experience between consoles. Wii and gamecube offered different experiences for Twilight Princess.Controls IMHO
Im not saying it will be exactly like thatbit along those lines. Nintendo probably came up witj some work around or technology.So can you buy the handheld without the supplementary device? Or are they sold only as a package?
If the former, why would the handheld be required? What's the advantage over just selling a handheld and a console?
If the latter, the cost would skyrocket and probably kill any chances of success.
NopeRIP 1080p and increased performance.
There is more to a console than a dock. Read the SCD patent. A console could work as a SCD, but a SCD is not necessarily a console.
I read it. The cost difference between an SCD and an equivalent console would be extremely small.There is more to a console than a dock. Read the SCD patent. A console could work as a SCD, but a SCD is not necessarily a console.
kind of lolSo wait, my joke post makes sense?
If it leaks, Nintendo wont be revealingI don't believe leaks is how Nintendo is going to reveal the NX >_>
Controls? You mean controls for the game they stripped all the gamepad functionality from? Even if so that would mean it would be a different experience between consoles. Wii and gamecube offered different experiences for Twilight Princess.
Nope
Are there any Tegra devices that are capable of running a game fully utilising all the system resources available at 540p when not plugged in, which can then by simply plugging it in to a dock or mains or whatever run the same game at the same level of visual fidelity but at 1080p. I am not aware of any such device.
It might be just prior to some official info.If it leaks, Nintendo wont be revealing
like what?Nothing as big as the Wii, just a quick select for items or something, which the gamepad could have no doubt supported in its own way.
No, there is no device that switches between 540p portable and 1080p docked if you're looking for the exact same resolutions.
But Shield K1 has a console mode that can be switched on when connected to the TV and changes the rendering resolution to 1080p and turns off the screen. I don't know how well it works because I don't have a Shield. But this wasn't my point. My point was that the same GPU is used in both portable and standalone Shield devices, so it seems to be fit for both more or less.
You must have heard of the scrolly shoulder buttons idea! And I'm thinking maybe a touchpad could replace the dpad and right stick, so magnesis would let you swipe up and down to change the distance instead of dpad buttons.like what?
I read it. The cost difference between an SCD and an equivalent console would be extremely small.
Again, I'd like to know how you are suggesting this hybrid would be sold. Is handheld only an option, with an SCD as a very expensive accessory? Or are the two bundled together and the entry price for NX skyrockets? Why do you think either of these options is better to just selling two separate devices that can work together but also work entirely independently of each other should the customer prefer. What is the advantage?
I feel like this news justifies a new thread so the same questions don't need to be repeated every page
What exactly is this news?I feel like this news justifies a new thread so the same questions don't need to be repeated every page
For far too long. It doesn't work like that in modern times.
He is saying that the "leak" is planned. Apparently journalists have been talking to the chip manufacturers as well.
Rösti;211417668 said:What exactly is this news?
No, there is no device that switches between 540p portable and 1080p docked if you're looking for the exact same resolutions.
But Shield K1 has a console mode that can be switched on when connected to the TV and changes the rendering resolution to 1080p and turns off the screen. I don't know how well it works because I don't have a Shield. But this wasn't my point. My point was that the same GPU is used in both portable and standalone Shield devices, so it seems to be fit for both more or less.
The dock could have just a GPU (with its memory) and nothing more for example. In what world is that as expensive as a separate console. Or not even that, just a disk and power, maybe a chip to handle the sound processing. There are many possibilities.
$199 handheld + $99 dock. $279 bundle. You keep thinking about the dock being a console, which doesn't make any sense..
Well, rumors of an imminent leak, I've seen threads with less basis being made
A thread did already exist and it was closed. We are waiting for the actual leak.
I did, I dont think thats the differences though.. idk. The way BoTW runs on Wii U I believe it has to have an upgraded version somewhere.You must have heard of the scrolly shoulder buttons idea! And I'm thinking maybe a touchpad could replace the dpad and right stick, so magnesis would let you swipe up and down to change the distance instead of dpad buttons.
It was already made and already lockedI feel like this news justifies a new thread so the same questions don't need to be repeated every page
Yes the Shield K1, with a 1920x1200 screen is able to be plugged into a TV to play the same games at 1920x1080. This is not at all the same as what you are suggesting.
You can't just dismiss these numbers as not being "the exact same resolutions". Required system resources for a GPU increase in an almost linear scale as you increase resolution.
You need roughly 4x the GPU grunt to render the same game at 1080p than at 540p. No "console mode" will quadruple the performance of any chip.
kind of lol
So a thread of about a presumable leak soon which will need a thread once the leak occurred that details an announcement of date of a reveal which will have its own thread.Well, rumors of an imminent leak, I've seen threads with less basis being made
So a thread of about a presumable leak soon which will need a thread once the leak occurred that details an announcement of date of a reveal which will have its own thread.
Modding is hard
A thread did already exist and it was closed. We are waiting for the actual leak.
Why don't you look at this the other way around. You have a device capable of rendering at 1080p, but if you use a native 540p resolution you can run your device at 25% of its capacity which possibly make it very power efficient.
Anyhow, I'm not convinced that the native resolution of the console mode for NX will be 1080p, so the difference in power is even less.
Because I think it would be utter madness to design, manufacture and sell a device that for the majority of users it will only ever be running at 25% capacity just because sometimes they might connect it to their TV.
It would be borderline suicidal.
"We've filled our new handheld with super high end chips, but the games are going to be really basic because they're operating at 25% of their capacity because it's a hybrid". How is that an appealing pitch?
Because I think it would be utter madness to design, manufacture and sell a device that for the majority of users it will only ever be running at 25% capacity just because sometimes they might connect it to their TV.
It would be borderline suicidal.
"We've filled our new handheld with super high end chips, but the games are going to be really basic because they're operating at 25% of their capacity because it's a hybrid". How is that an appealing pitch?
Same applies but to a lesser extent even if the games are 540p on the handheld and 720p on a TV.
Also just lowering the resolution doesn't change most of the game, thus wouldn't change the capacity used as much as expected. CPU and stuff still need to do the exact same amount of work.
Wasn't something along those lines rumored for Project Cafe's controller / Wii U GamePad screen ?
Might be mis-remembering,
There are Shield portable devices rendering at higher resolution than 540p (like the Tegra K1 tablet mentioned above). It was just an example. It just up to how much it needs to be underclocked to meet Nintendo power demands.
Nope. But it's almost as old as the Wii U.Can the shield portable run anything close to recent that isn't indie?
I wonder if the platform he mentions is NX: https://twitter.com/HenryHoffman/status/757866161979715584
Still amazed that people think Nintendo are going to make a single extremely compromised device despite rudimentary logic and the scant few statements Nintendo have put out regarding NX contradict that notion.
I've never even heard anyone clearly explain what the advantages of a handheld that is also a home console would be. I don't think anyone suggesting it has really put enough thought into the blend of balanced thermal output, power consumption, resolution output and cost that the two device classes require. They are significantly different devices with very different usage scenarios, and are designed as such.
Is the leak happening today?
Yeah, I don´t get the appeal of a hybrid device. It will be expensive and only a small audience will use this feature.
Maybe there are 3 SKUs
NX console
NX handheld
NX hybrid (whatever this is)
Personally I hope the old theory about the NX ecosystem is true. There will be a seperate NX console and handheld which will share most of the games.