ShadowSoldier89
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in for retail as long as its not UWP
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Quantum Break coming to Steam and Retail on 9/14
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Greatest Ever
Member
Wait, what's the issue? Quantum Break definitely isn't a deep game, especially without blindfire and hipfire. Just because it has powers doesn't suddenly make the shooting or level design deep. There's very little learning to be done as you move on with the game. It's not as shallow as the most vanilla TPS (I found a lot of benefits with the shield and dash) out there but it isn't deep. Nor is it a challenge on Hard at all, aside from maybe one fight where the snipers are bullshit.
There's no inherent flaw in not being deep, Uncharted 4 plays well and is paced excellently despite it being relatively shallow. Quantum Break is highly flawed outside of its shooting as well.
There's no inherent flaw in not being deep, Uncharted 4 plays well and is paced excellently despite it being relatively shallow. Quantum Break is highly flawed outside of its shooting as well.
The retail version activates on Steam so it's not UWP.
catofthecanals
Banned
Am I the only one that thought the story was cool? I loved the TV episodes. *shrug*
I loved everything about it.
Wowfunhappy
Member
You're assuming that win32 is inherently (and significantly) better performing than UWP. This doesn't appear to be the case. Rise of the Tomb Raider, for instance, performs about the same on Steam vs The Windows Store.
tioslash
Member
I love the story and how it was delivered. The TV episodes were OK to me, nothing special though.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Setting aside that you don't wonder that at all--you're just angry that Sweeney said something bad about Microsoft and trying to score a cheap point--Sweeney's premise doesn't exclude this at all. This is a relatively low impact project relative to the scale of Windows as a whole, Sweeney's argument leaves open tension between interests within Microsoft (like the famous org chart diagram suggests), and if you're planning on using Microsoft's every move to fit or disprove Sweeney's theory then you also have to grapple that last week the Windows 10 anniversary update broke a bunch of gaming stuff, disabled group policies for users to give them less control over key elements of the OS, and focused near-entirely on improvements to UWP versus Win32, so all told the week would still in aggregate "prove" his theory if you really want to keep score.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
thats my assumption, especially because I doubt steam will have UWP support in a month, but I want to keep a little skepticism
Hydrargyrus
Member
UWP looks succesful
2002whitegt
Member
Guess I'll finally play this then. Hopefully more of ms games follow suit.
This was exactly my first thought.
Sweeney sure made some forum enemies, didn't he?
Pathfinder
Member
No, I really do wonder. And yeah, I wonder because I'm kind of angry that Sweeney is using his established position as a developer to push a narrative with no real proof to back it up.
I'm fully aware the Anniversary Update broke a bunch of gaming stuff overall, but since it affects multiple gaming/input devices and controllers, and many games and platforms, including their own UWP, I can't see it having anything to do with his theory and instead has more to do with a general QA failure.
Nice. No one wants your Win 10 store ms. While I know you won't put the big games on Steam, at least consider the mid/small games. I'll take Scalebound next.
Also, I don't see how this release negates Sweeney's comments. I'm sure Remedy pushed hard for Steam release after the massive failure of the Win 10 store launch. Handled so poorly.
Also, I don't see how this release negates Sweeney's comments. I'm sure Remedy pushed hard for Steam release after the massive failure of the Win 10 store launch. Handled so poorly.
Battlesmurf
Member
Just jammed on the game recently. It has some frustrations and a few questionable design choices, but overall I enjoyed it and the storyline was great. I have a nice PC but passed on the PC release initially since it had some growing pains and I didnt want to support the Win10 store. This Steam release solves all of this for you guys on the fence. Price is decent, too.
Hopefully this becomes more of a thing- more options for folks.
Hopefully this becomes more of a thing- more options for folks.
FunkyDealer
Banned
So they added a 'making of' on BD, instead of putting the tv-show bits on one?
That's a missed opportunity in my book.
That's a missed opportunity in my book.
To think people wanted MP3 by Remedy and not what we got. What R* made four years ago is far far better than what Remedy seemingly is capable of these days, this game is so bad. For a shooter, shooting feels awful, it fails at the basic thing.
Remedy might also be up against certain stresses and development issues that Rockstar can avoid by essentially having an unlimited development budget.
I haven't played the game, but the first thing that jumps out to me is biting off more than Remedy can chew by attempting to tie this into a live action production. That puts far too many constraints on development that could be easily avoided.
Not particularly since this is third party.
Pathfinder
Member
One can only hope, but I doubt it. They still want their own store to succeed on some level.
Movalpolos
Banned
Well I wasnt expecting that. Guess it wasnt enough of an incentive on the W10 store for PC players.
Dream_Journey
Member
Finally!
CrimsonEclipse
Member
It's also possible that they release on W10 Store first, see how it goes (take all the profit as much as possible). Then release months after on Steam, but yeah probably more wishful thinking. If the Windows Store was such shit, I wouldn't mind buying from it.
Oh thank god! Can't believe I missed this news earlier. I refuse to buy anything on the Windows Store but I love Remedy, so I'm glad I'll finally be able to play this. I really hope this is a sign of things to come. I don't necessarily expect MS' true first-party stuff like Gears or Forza to hit Steam but ScaleBound would be nice.
Do we know for sure if they recompiled it to Win32 or if it'll be UWP?
Do we know for sure if they recompiled it to Win32 or if it'll be UWP?
Awesome!
Can you elaborate, please?
I see the update waiting in the queue, are there any widespread issues I should know about?
ThirstiestGamer 2.0
Member
Yeah this is a high quality game that had a lot of cool aspects to it. Glad pc players will soon play it too.
reptilescorpio
Member
Their Alan Wake release was fantastic so I might add this to the collection
Messofanego
Banned
Welp, gotta double dip for a physical PC version and that making of. I'd lose my shit if they're doing audio/video commentary like they did in Alan Wake PC.
Pathfinder
Member
Long story short, it appears the xinputhid.sys driver that comes with the Anniversary Update is faulty and it has potential to cause weird issues with game controllers and certain games and portals like Steam's Big Picture. Others have also reported issues with some backlit keyboards as well.
There are two different threads on the issue:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1258028
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1257195
EDIT: This appears to be a workaround. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=212640021&postcount=210
Knuckle Sandwich
Member
Cool. Game is really, really good.
RamaTheVoice
Member
I heard it runs on W7 too, but I'm confused: wasn't it built from the ground up to use DX12, which isn't available on W7?
I know I'm probably dreaming, but I'd really love it if owners of the Windows Store version get a code to download it off Steam, especially if it runs better.
petethepanda
Member
Oh, awesome, I didn't actually realise that the retail set with all that extra stuff was actually just $40. Halfway tempted to double dip.
stan423321
Member
This is actually not necessarily the case. Microsoft has made UWP sideloading possible so Steam technically may support UWP now by Valve endorsing it (yeah, no) or by MS pulling some top secret shenanigans to make it work (not necessarily impossible).
Let's wait and see though, this is the one case where we can remain optimistic.
SlaughterX
Banned
Nice looking set. Already own the free windows 10 version so I'll pass but that's a good looking CE for $40.
NeoRaider
Member
I have to agree. I mean 5 DVDs + OST + One BR + Other bonuses... others are selling these for around 100$. This is so cheap.
As much as I would love that, I get the feeling XB1 cross-play wouldn't work for any potential steam version.
I really wanna see if Remedy will mention the games sales on the W10 store anywhere, because chances are it was well below expectations. I also wanna see this game not run like hot garbage on an older API, much to Microsofts chagrin.
GTA did the same thing last year
At this point if they're going to keep doing retail PC games they just need to fucking ship them on USB flash drives. Is a 64GB drive that much more expensive to manufacture than six DVD-ROMs? They can at least ship the drives with the super-expensive special editions right?
NeoRaider
Member
It will be the same. But performance will be interesting. They say that game is originally DX11.
8-Bit Sunset
Banned
YES!
Gears Of War next please!
See, all they had to do was make it available on Steam as well as their own store.
Hoping the sales on this are high for Remedy!
Gears Of War next please!
See, all they had to do was make it available on Steam as well as their own store.
Hoping the sales on this are high for Remedy!