It would be an obvious play, if there was a guarantee that the Mason chat was Town-only. There isn't. The lack of caution about this is a huge red flag. Either one of them is getting played, or they're both scum.
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It would be an obvious play, if there was a guarantee that the Mason chat was Town-only. There isn't. The lack of caution about this is a huge red flag. Either one of them is getting played, or they're both scum.
I did not have the luxury of time on day two, I mentioned that at least twice. The very example you gave was something that Sawneeks had to ask again in the mason chat, days later because I had missed it during my quick read-throughs when I wasn't too tired or drunk. I am not absolutely certain how this relates to everything but I'm going to guess you'll use this as a foundation for the next phase in the argument that will be "why protect the chat if you did not even have the time to do anything". The chat was easier to read and participate in than the thread was while falling asleep, one person to talk with, just one or two posts and then think about the matter and zzz. Next. "Few posts, why protect such a weak information source?" Because that is what a mason chat is, a way to gain or hope to gain a better read on your partner.
There was no absolute trust between I and Sawneeks nor is it absolute now. Again, we speculated about things and both agreed that possibilities existed that where the other was scum. While we did not post RAWR YOU COULD BE SCUMS, it certainly was implied in both ways between the lines.
I knew Dusk had given us the chat. That is all I knew. This information does not make him town. We considered it possible that even if Dusk was town, revealing the chat would do nothing towards saving him since item usage is not an alignment indicative. At the same time, we were worried about the following scenario: what if the trio was all town and by outing ourselves, we just paint a target on our back, achieving nothing. In the worst-case scenario we out ourselves, Dusk still gets flipped as town and during the night scum kill the chat by killing one of the masons. We saw Dusk's death, should it happen, as something beyond our control. We let Dusk walk into the ocean because we believed we could not prevent it.
Christina Mackenzie
Member
So we have Masons without knowledge of their alignment? Both of them being mafia seems like a risky play.
Also do you have a target for tonight? I'd like to suggest MagnumBoy20xx. Seeing as he'll either steal your item or mafia will target you tonight it's probably our best chance to clear up his role if we don't get rid of him today. This isn't a test of your PR.
Lynching him is a very safe play though I still feel like we should try looking else for possible lynch targets. I just get this feeling that leaving him till late in the game is going to come back to bite us.
CornBurrito
Member
What do you mean by "risky play" in this context? Dusk was town. He couldn't have knowingly bundled up scum buddies.
Yes Kark, Kyan and I went into the Mason chat, gave each other a big hug, and then began to tell each other our deepest, darkest secrets because we were suddenly the most trusting of best friends.
/s if that wasn't clear enough
I'm going to be echoing Kyan here but when Day 2 started up and we had our Mason chat we did not trust each other. I still don't fully trust Kyan now but nothing he has done so far has made me believe he isn't Town.
As for letting Dusk 'walk into the ocean' we wanted to see what his flip was. Yes we knew the Xbox was real and that part of the accusation against him wasn't true but that did not indicate his alignment at all. We discussed this at length in the Mason chat but it eventually broke down into this:
Dusk was Scum:
He put his Scum buddy in a Mason chat with a Townie in order to try and get a Townie on their side. Dusk claims at the beginning of Day 2 in order for the two Masons to come forward and verify him, thus saving him and keeping the gambit going.
This meant that 1 Mason was Scum and 1 was Town.
Dusk was Town:
He came forward Day 2 to not only inform the new Mason of who gave them a chat ( we had no idea it was Dusk until he said something here ) but to also clear up the bidding and item confusion as he stated early in Day 2.
This meant either 1 Mason was Scum and 1 was Town or we were both Town.
'but sawneeks! you didn't vote for dusk!'
No, I didn't. As the Day went on and Kyan was more than willing to let Dusk bite the bullet I began to doubt that Scum!Dusk was what the scenario was. In order for the Scum Mason gambit to work Dusk had to be alive and having Kyan ( who I wasn't sure was Scum or Town ) just let him die didn't make sense. Still, I wasn't 100% on this idea and wasn't about to blow two PRs out in the open on the chance of Dusk being Town just in case I was wrong. My one vote wasn't going to do anything either so I put it on Dragonz.
Then we let Dusk get lynched.
Sorry by the way, Dusk. Thanks for the Xbox though. <3
If I had truly thought Kyan was Scum I would have come forward on Day 2 and just thrown the whole thing in the open. But I didn't and on the chance we were both Town I was hoping we could gain each others trust and use the chat to the best of our ability.
Is this a vote because you think I'm Scum or is this a vote because you don't agree with what we did?
Christina Mackenzie
Member
Sorry, should have been clear. I meant if both Kyanrute and Sawneeks were scum and they both decided to come forward.
I guess Dusk tried to pick 2 players whom he thought was town.
MagnumBoy20xx
Neo Member
I'm back.
So sawneeks and kyanrute were dusk's targets, and they let him die so that they could see his flip and confirm that he hadn't intentionally picked a mafia member for the chat thread? If that's the case, then I guess that makes sense? I mean, yeah that would definitely provide some helpful information to them if they were town, but that still doesn't confirm either of them as being town.
Also, to kark: if you're going to Lynch one of them for not trying to save dusk, you really should be voting for kyan not sawneeks. Sawneeks voted for for WAMD while kyan left his vote on dusk. Had he switched to WAMD, it would have caused a tie situation. That would force el topo and melonrabbit to make a quick decision to break the tie. Of course WAMD, could have broken the tie as well by voting for dusk to save herself,but we still don't know how the other two would have voted. For all we know el topo and melon could have voted against WAMD, effectively saving dusk.
Now to those who are insistent on lynching me, I get. Seriously, I get it. Neutrals have their own win condition, and it's natural to assume that they will do anything to fulfill that condition. But think logically for one moment, does lynching a neutral actually help town? No, it doesn't. You see, mafia win when they have the majority of players in the game which includes neutrals. This means that every Lynch town makes that isn't scum, just helps mafia get one step closer to winning. And the thing is, that's what happens when you Lynch a neutral. You don't guarantee good information, you guarantee that you won't Lynch scum. Of course you guys would still be worried about me living. After all,what guarantees me helping town? The answer is simple: I need to survive. If I can't survive, I don't get the chance to fulfill my win condition. The only thing that guarantees that I don't get lynched, is to help town. But I know what you guys are probably going to say next: "so what prevents you from being Night killed?" The answer to that is the exact same reason that I'm making this freaking post, because I appear to be a safe Lynch target. scum want me around because there will always be someone wanting to Lynch me, and they can just hop on the bandwagon to appear like the're helping town, but are actually just helping themselves. This means that as long as I help town, I can give myself the highest chance of actually winning. That is, Unless the Mafia want to prove me otherwise.
So mafia,: I dare you, prove me wrong. Night kill me. SHOW ME THAT YOU DON'T WANT ME AROUND! IF FREAKING DARE YOU, IF YOU'VE GOT ANY GUTS AT ALL, KILL ME TONIGHT!!!if you don't, I'll just keep on playing the way I have, surviving until I win or die trying.
So sawneeks and kyanrute were dusk's targets, and they let him die so that they could see his flip and confirm that he hadn't intentionally picked a mafia member for the chat thread? If that's the case, then I guess that makes sense? I mean, yeah that would definitely provide some helpful information to them if they were town, but that still doesn't confirm either of them as being town.
Also, to kark: if you're going to Lynch one of them for not trying to save dusk, you really should be voting for kyan not sawneeks. Sawneeks voted for for WAMD while kyan left his vote on dusk. Had he switched to WAMD, it would have caused a tie situation. That would force el topo and melonrabbit to make a quick decision to break the tie. Of course WAMD, could have broken the tie as well by voting for dusk to save herself,but we still don't know how the other two would have voted. For all we know el topo and melon could have voted against WAMD, effectively saving dusk.
Now to those who are insistent on lynching me, I get. Seriously, I get it. Neutrals have their own win condition, and it's natural to assume that they will do anything to fulfill that condition. But think logically for one moment, does lynching a neutral actually help town? No, it doesn't. You see, mafia win when they have the majority of players in the game which includes neutrals. This means that every Lynch town makes that isn't scum, just helps mafia get one step closer to winning. And the thing is, that's what happens when you Lynch a neutral. You don't guarantee good information, you guarantee that you won't Lynch scum. Of course you guys would still be worried about me living. After all,what guarantees me helping town? The answer is simple: I need to survive. If I can't survive, I don't get the chance to fulfill my win condition. The only thing that guarantees that I don't get lynched, is to help town. But I know what you guys are probably going to say next: "so what prevents you from being Night killed?" The answer to that is the exact same reason that I'm making this freaking post, because I appear to be a safe Lynch target. scum want me around because there will always be someone wanting to Lynch me, and they can just hop on the bandwagon to appear like the're helping town, but are actually just helping themselves. This means that as long as I help town, I can give myself the highest chance of actually winning. That is, Unless the Mafia want to prove me otherwise.
So mafia,: I dare you, prove me wrong. Night kill me. SHOW ME THAT YOU DON'T WANT ME AROUND! IF FREAKING DARE YOU, IF YOU'VE GOT ANY GUTS AT ALL, KILL ME TONIGHT!!!if you don't, I'll just keep on playing the way I have, surviving until I win or die trying.
Kark I hope that if you ever get into a gossip chat in the future you will auto claim.
Anything less and I will be severely disappointed in you.
Do you think Kyan is mafia as well?
Actually while we're at who are your top 3 Scum anyway.
Anything less and I will be severely disappointed in you.
Do you think Kyan is mafia as well?
Actually while we're at who are your top 3 Scum anyway.
Well, I'm heading off to bed. Got work in the morning so I will try and be here for the Day end but I make no promises. At the very least I will be checking in on my lunch break and put down a vote since I'm floating around two ideas right now.
I'm either going for Magnum or Dragonz/Salva, although for the latter I still want to hear from Splinter in regards to this question:
In the meantime, please send all Mason questions to the offices of Kyan.
thank you
I'm either going for Magnum or Dragonz/Salva, although for the latter I still want to hear from Splinter in regards to this question:
In the meantime, please send all Mason questions to the offices of Kyan.
thank you
melonrabbit
Member
OK. I've read and re-read the day several times.
I'm not sure Dusk did us any favors here. The reveal of the mason pair doesn't really benefit the town as there is no way to know their alignment or really why Dusk wanted to bring these two together as a team, the whole thing seems very random. I agree with whoever suggested that he probably didn't really know what to do with the Xbox and passed off the controllers as soon as possible as he was a lynch target from almost the start of D1.
I also agree with Kark that something feels off with Sawneeks.
Overall, I'm not sure what the most productive thing to do is, with the little time we have left, in this day. I do know that mason conversation has again distanced the conversation from mags and Dragonz/Salva.
I'm not sure Dusk did us any favors here. The reveal of the mason pair doesn't really benefit the town as there is no way to know their alignment or really why Dusk wanted to bring these two together as a team, the whole thing seems very random. I agree with whoever suggested that he probably didn't really know what to do with the Xbox and passed off the controllers as soon as possible as he was a lynch target from almost the start of D1.
I also agree with Kark that something feels off with Sawneeks.
Overall, I'm not sure what the most productive thing to do is, with the little time we have left, in this day. I do know that mason conversation has again distanced the conversation from mags and Dragonz/Salva.
Of course it's "random" - Dusk had, at best, a hunch about who to pick for Masons. Dusk's intention isn't too important, though we know it was Town-sided. What's important is that he put two players into a situation where they are Masons that don't know each other's alignment.
Put yourself into that situation, and consider how much confidence you'd have in the other player? I'd have zero confidence. I would strongly consider that one of us come out and vouch for Dusk telling the truth on Day 2. I would immediately claim at the start of Day 3, once Dusk has flipped Town the Day prior. They did none of that.
So in that sense, I think what Dusk did has been useful. We have seen how these two players react to the situation he put them in - and they've done the opposite of what common sense and past games with mixed team chats would tell you.
Yeah, where the hell is Splinter?
melonrabbit
Member
Yes. Their reaction has been counterintuitive to what I would expect of someone in their position. What I'm not sure of is if that reluctance is based on the mistrust of each other or something other kind of gambit in motion.
Uh-huh. You had Day 2 to auto claim. You had Day 2 to at least decide which Mason would speak up to say Dusk was telling the truth. It's Day 3, and you only claimed because Oceanic called you out.
But keep protecting a Mason partnership you have no logical reason to be invested in.
Yes, it's possible Kyan is mafia, too. At this point, both of you being scum is more likely than neither of you being scum.
Even if you're Town, you have to accept that Kyan may be scum and is deceiving you - but instead, you suppose he's Town. It makes no sense.
Top 3 scum? Sawneeks, Kyan, and a tie between Salva and Splinter.
This is kinda why I didn't want to claim. We knew when we came forward it would become a major talking point and distract from the other discussions at hand.
Why? Why vouch for Dusk when you didn't know his alignment at all? Is outing 2 potential Town PRs worth it for saving someone who might be Scum?
And I'm pretty sure you were the one on Day 2 to say that even if the Masons came forward for Dusk it didn't ensure he was Town. So you wanted us to out ourselves and still lynch Dusk in the end?
I was making a joke because you are implying the best course of action was to claim the second we saw we were in a chat.
And I'm sorry I had hope I could figure out Kyan's alignment and decide what to do with the chat on my own?? I was invested because I wanted to figure it out and see if Kyan and I could Scum hunt together and become a valuable team or if I had been paired with Scum and could use that against him if I ever built a case for his lynch.
I don't have to tell you the low probability of Dusk hitting 2 Scum members for a Mason chat is. Not to mention if we were both Scum why did we both come forward? OA only found me, Kyan never had to say a word if he was my Scum teammate and he would have never been found out.
I'm not sure how many times I will need to repeat this but I have never 100% trusted Kyan. You keep throwing this out like it's a fact but I have never fully trusted him. Why do you think I wanted to see Dusk's flip? I wanted to see if he and Kyan were deceiving me in the chat. Have some faith in me, Kark.
Thoughts on Kalor, CM, and Cornbro too if you please.
Christina Mackenzie
Member
As I'm not going to be online any longer I'm going to vote now.
Since the Sawneeks/Kyanrute inquisition is still ongoing I'm not going to vote for either of them.
Between Salvapot and MagnumBoy20xx, I feel Salvapot is the better option. Sawneeks seems to think either CornBurrito or I could be that elusive 4th contestant in the original slip. Lynching the neutral is a safe option but ultimately we won't learn much at the start of the next day.
WRT the masons, being put into a chat where neither party knows each others alignment is a tough call. I can see the reason in having Dusk lynched to test out each other if they suspected 2 mafia members involved. It's a rather bold move.
VOTE: MagnumBoy20xx
Since the Sawneeks/Kyanrute inquisition is still ongoing I'm not going to vote for either of them.
Between Salvapot and MagnumBoy20xx, I feel Salvapot is the better option. Sawneeks seems to think either CornBurrito or I could be that elusive 4th contestant in the original slip. Lynching the neutral is a safe option but ultimately we won't learn much at the start of the next day.
WRT the masons, being put into a chat where neither party knows each others alignment is a tough call. I can see the reason in having Dusk lynched to test out each other if they suspected 2 mafia members involved. It's a rather bold move.
VOTE: MagnumBoy20xx
Christina Mackenzie
Member
The one time I didn't bother to proofread...
VOTE: SalvaPot
VOTE: SalvaPot
Christina Mackenzie
Member
Yes, it's been a long day...
If OceanAir had not found you out, how long were you planning to keep the Mason chat a secret?
Until either Kyan died or I had enough ground to believe my Mason partner was Scum.
This is just hand-waving suspicion away from you as "not important"
Why vouch for Kyan if you don't know his alignment at all?
You didn't know Dusk's alignment, but you knew that his claims lined up with you getting a Mason ability. At the very least, there was evidence that Dusk was telling the truth about something. And it wasn't like there was an overwhelming condemnation of Dusk. We voted him out because his claim seemed counter to what he said D1. If someone came out and vouched for that claim, it could have gone differently.
Nevertheless, you vouch for Kyan, despite having less proof. You're contradicting yourself.
What it looks like is that you're a mafia player who knows what people's alignments are. Rather than be antagonistic, you play the game of cozying up to Town players that are relatively harmless. You make posts reaffirming Town that they're Town. You side with them on arguments. It's all nice and positive.
You do these things with confidence, because you know they're Town. And you know that they're Town, because you're mafia.
You didn't stick up for Dusk, because he was essentially claiming a PR. You are sticking up for Kyan, because if he's not one of your mafia partners, he's a relatively harmless Town player abducted by mafia.
This is the biggest nonsense of the game so far. What are you outing? You're not in a valuable Mason pair. You can't trust your partner, and saying you're in this pair doesn't really paint any more of a target on your back than anybody else. You're not in a Lover pair. Outing this information is more valuable to Town than to you. All you've done is try to backpedal away from this.
Or it'd be useful to keep that Mason link alive in case a Town Kyan wins an item.
This is hardly a defense. Is Dusk picking two scum out of a hat possible, yes or no? The answer is yes. But it's not like we're arguing solely on the basis of probability. Not at all.
You both didn't come forward. Oceanic came forward. Then Kyan came in with damage control - to cover for you, despite the fact that OA didn't even name you guys. Paranoid much?
Then you better start chewing his face off, because one of you is scum.
He and Dusk, deceving you in the chat? I thought Dusk had no access to the chat, and I thought you and Kyan didn't know Dusk was your matchmaker.
Heh...
I started to think about the reveal again sometime after the theories about the masons started flying around and had Sawneeks not suggested the reveal I think I would've suggested it myself in the mason chat. Had she agreed to it, we would be in a situation much like this I imagine. In the scenario where she would've opposed the reveal, my actions would've depended on the arguments she would make against the reveal.
StanleyPalmtree
Banned
so i realized that i really hadn't given this game the attention it deserved the last day phase, and now that we only have a short time to go i really should take the time to thoroughly read through the day, take in the many arguments and their reaction and see if i can at least intelligently weigh in on the happenings, maybe even provide some insights of my own.
i thought that, but then i discovered that stripper thread with the Lionel Mandrake summary, which inadvertently led me down the rabbit hole of many of his other summaries of legend. and now its almost 4 am.
shit.
guess ill just have to work with half baked impressions and a generally spotty memory of the games events.
The good ole WAMD-Salvapot behilit cash-in switcheroo.
so these are always fun, that player that starts off looking kinda bad, and only looks worse as they dont respond a whole lot. but then they switch out and you have to think "shit did they not respond because they were scum or was it just the RL event interferring?"
anyway, like i said i had the gut feeling of wamd not being scum, and iv liked everything iv seen from salva so far, so i wouldnt be supporting his lynch any time soon.
Karkador - Sawneeks starring in the battle for Doldrey Castle.
certainly cant deny that kark is making some very solid points in this accusation. not enough to convince me (or anyone really) that he is scum, but it did put Sawneeks on the defensive, and those responses have been something i tells you what. and not the good something either, the bad something, like the hmm i dont quite think i like this fellow kinda something. especially given how these comments can be so nicely contrasted against Kyans considerably less something responses.
i probably wouldn't turn my nose up at a sawneeks lynch
Nosferatu MagnumBoy20xx, the enemy of my enemy is my other enemy?
stance on this hasn't really changed, i personally dont have anything against neutrals policy wise (but then i usually try to keep out of politics), for this specific instance im on the fence about how trustworthy magnum is, i mean he did kinda blatantly lie about his role, twice. but then in every single other post he has made its felt pretty sincere. but then those lies did too at the time. im not gona say we we should keep him around, but i would rather people went after mafia.
i thought that, but then i discovered that stripper thread with the Lionel Mandrake summary, which inadvertently led me down the rabbit hole of many of his other summaries of legend. and now its almost 4 am.
shit.
guess ill just have to work with half baked impressions and a generally spotty memory of the games events.
The good ole WAMD-Salvapot behilit cash-in switcheroo.
so these are always fun, that player that starts off looking kinda bad, and only looks worse as they dont respond a whole lot. but then they switch out and you have to think "shit did they not respond because they were scum or was it just the RL event interferring?"
anyway, like i said i had the gut feeling of wamd not being scum, and iv liked everything iv seen from salva so far, so i wouldnt be supporting his lynch any time soon.
Karkador - Sawneeks starring in the battle for Doldrey Castle.
certainly cant deny that kark is making some very solid points in this accusation. not enough to convince me (or anyone really) that he is scum, but it did put Sawneeks on the defensive, and those responses have been something i tells you what. and not the good something either, the bad something, like the hmm i dont quite think i like this fellow kinda something. especially given how these comments can be so nicely contrasted against Kyans considerably less something responses.
i probably wouldn't turn my nose up at a sawneeks lynch
Nosferatu MagnumBoy20xx, the enemy of my enemy is my other enemy?
stance on this hasn't really changed, i personally dont have anything against neutrals policy wise (but then i usually try to keep out of politics), for this specific instance im on the fence about how trustworthy magnum is, i mean he did kinda blatantly lie about his role, twice. but then in every single other post he has made its felt pretty sincere. but then those lies did too at the time. im not gona say we we should keep him around, but i would rather people went after mafia.
The two-scum scenario: Dusk+1, where either scum Dusk or a third scum member won the Xbox and the item was used on two scum members and a townie in order to gain #townpoints for Dusk and the scummie in the chat. Or to influence the townie, or to in hopes gain information about reads, roles, items, whatnot. And we knew that Dusk was our matchmaker when he claimed, you have that wrong.
StanleyPalmtree
Banned
oh, right, a vote.
knew i was forgetting something.
VOTE: Sawneeks
because, y'know
something
knew i was forgetting something.
VOTE: Sawneeks
because, y'know
something
actually this is a fairly tenuous gut far more on a gut feeling and sneaking suspicions that on any of the more grounded evidence/reasoning presented against him.
You're going to have to explain what this has to do with anything, because the first time you brought this up:
Doesn't make sense. Dusk could have been scum, because "I was not present in Sawneeks' scum chat, nor was she present in mine"? What the hell is that?
But let's not distract too much from what you're supposed to be responding to:
Dusk was in your chat?
Remember, we can read all the prior posts in this game.
If there was a scum member in the chat and Dusk was scum, Dusk could've influenced the mason chat via the second member, using scum chat. The scum member in the chat would've been scum team's eyes and mouth in the chat.
Ah yes, the "voted for the wrong person in my reasoning". Clearly a no-lynch worthy move. Mistake are not indicative of alignment, right guys?
I believe in you magnum and I believe in the fact that you are harmless, at least for now, but
Didn't you said that your win condition was to survive? If so, you can survive with scum the scum team, right?
Go after Kyan
I present a mountain of evidence that shows your coordination with Sawneeks has been a number of scummy, deceptive anti-Town maneuvers that have made no reasonable sense for two Town players to make, and all you have to defend with is "but lynching us both would be a lynch train"?
gimme a break we've looped the circle around million times now and i had to shitpost even once, the lols required it
But yeah, I tossed some questions to you some time ago, mind answering them:
Why Sawneeks over me?
What does her flip (town or scum) tell about me and people you consider connected to us?
And then what, finally get around to Magnum on Day 5 and then Salva/Dragonz on Day 6?
lynch me now and put me out of my misery.
I'm hoping your Scum at this point or else this is incredibly silly to be doing as Town. This will be the second time in a row you will have done this Kark and I'm not sure how much longer you can say 'oops' after a mislynch. :/
Two reasons
1.) From Day 1, I was already looking at Sawneeks as potential scum, for similar reasons. She was defending Dusk's weird plays and bizarre logic for no good reason. Practically taking bullets for him. This was before he claimed, and before she was Masoned. I was on her case because it was Day 1 and she was acting very fishy.
3.) You are the one who came forward with the explanation after Oceanic claimed he saw a Mason. That doesn't mean you're not scum, but I'm intuitively going for the piece of the puzzle that stayed quiet.
It'll be interesting to see how you act then, considering you're the more talkative one.
You know, we have an acronym for what you're trying to say
salvapot (4)
kalor 803
*splinter 862
nin1000 867 (898)
melonrabbit 878
christina mackenzie 972
nin1000 (0)
stanleypalmtree 840 (884)
kalor (0)
sawneeks 845 (918)
magnumboy20xx (2)
kyanrute 932
el topo 945
christina mackenzie 970 (972)
sawneeks (2)
karkador 946
stanleypalmtree 979
Majority is 9
Day 3 ends in
kalor 803
*splinter 862
melonrabbit 878
christina mackenzie 972
nin1000 (0)
kalor (0)
magnumboy20xx (2)
kyanrute 932
el topo 945
sawneeks (2)
karkador 946
stanleypalmtree 979
Majority is 9
Day 3 ends in
StarSketch
Banned
-looks at vote count-
-person being super defensive when they're not the vote leader-
-no resistance from the person who is the vote leader-
Hmmm....
-person being super defensive when they're not the vote leader-
-no resistance from the person who is the vote leader-
Hmmm....
We've had two lynches so far. You're asking for "results" in two flips?
Okay, might finally have a chance to post today.
My original plan for today was to vote for Magnum. His most recent post points out the positives of keeping him around longer, though. (His presence keeps mafia from out numbering us)
A big negative, though, is that he'll try to steal Oceanic's dell. I don't think I saw any mention of it being a one shot power, so I am kind of worried about losing that.
Of course, Oceanic could be mafia, so taking the dell away would be for the best.
Magnum calling out mafia to go after him at night is a kind gesture, I feel, but also empty. Like he said, he's a great lynch target.
My original plan for today was to vote for Magnum. His most recent post points out the positives of keeping him around longer, though. (His presence keeps mafia from out numbering us)
A big negative, though, is that he'll try to steal Oceanic's dell. I don't think I saw any mention of it being a one shot power, so I am kind of worried about losing that.
Of course, Oceanic could be mafia, so taking the dell away would be for the best.
Magnum calling out mafia to go after him at night is a kind gesture, I feel, but also empty. Like he said, he's a great lynch target.
1) You mean to imply the following: there was no reason for Sawneeks to defend Dusk's strange things, unless Sawneeks was scum, knew Dusk was town, thought Dusk's strange things would get him lynched sooner or later, all in all making scum Sawneeks look bit better for defending a townie?
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