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It has all been said already, like with the PT, but (like with the PT) I suppose people are looking for validity either way. For some reason. But didn't they like it? I recall "Plinkett" saying that it was everything he wanted, but he could put on a guise and rip it to shreds.
He liked Titanic and Star Trek too. He doesn't have to hate a movie to do a Plinkett review. The review will probably partially focus on what TFA did right (yay, more prequel bashing?) and how it used elements from all three movies of the original Trilogy
 
He liked Titanic and Star Trek too. He doesn't have to hate a movie to do a Plinkett review. The review will probably partially focus on what TFA did right (yay, more prequel bashing?) and how it used elements from all three movies of the original Trilogy

Yeah that's true.
 

liquidtmd

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we had a recent flare up of prequel hate on this site because a few people could not admit that there is anything majorly wrong with the prequels and that they, in fact, were bold and took risks.

Attack of the Clones was one of the shittiest sci-fi / fantasy genre films of the last 30 years, on its own merits and nothing else.

You could not pay me money to rewatch that film all the way through. TPM wasnt all bad and is the easy target but goddamn AOTC was horrible.

ROTS was a bloated schlock fest and could have done with half an hour shaving off.
 
ROTS was a bloated schlock fest and could have done with half an hour shaving off.

Huh? It was the shortest SW film and IMO had by far the best pacing of the three. I didn't feel there was any bloat whatsoever. If anything most people say it moves too fast and certain things happen too quickly lol
 
Any recommendations?

A few critics I like, off the top of my head. Kermode & Mayo, Michael Phillips, AO Scott, Devin Faraci, Jen Yamato, David Ehrlich, The Filmspotting Podcast.


Lmao @ everyone who thinks I give a rat's ass about the prequels because I think these guys are poor critics.
 

liquidtmd

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Huh? It was the shortest SW film and IMO had by far the best pacing of the three. I didn't feel there was any bloat whatsoever. If anything most people say it moves too fast and certain things happen too quickly lol

Really? I felt it was quite muddled and felt the bits where Kenobi was going after Grievous coupled with the final lightsabre duel were quite meandering.
 

AntChum

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Why are people excited for their TFA review again?
I imagine a lot of people's exposure to Mr. Plinkett is the Prequel reviews, where he eviscerated them, and they are expecting more of the same. Unfortunately for them, we have a Star Trek 2009 situation on our hands, so they will probably be thoroughly disappointed.

Personally, I'm hoping for RLM either to never do a Plinkett review again (but keep doing the teasers), or have the next review not be The Force Awakens.
 
Really? I felt it was quite muddled and felt the bits where Kenobi was going after Grievous coupled with the final lightsabre duel were quite meandering.

That stuff moved at a nice clip though. Kenobi going for Grievous was literally him landing, asking a dude where he was, and then he drops down and gets into the action. As for the last saber duels, it was the climax of the entire trilogy and a showdown people had waited on for forever. I thought it was just the right length. Unless of course you don't like it, which would obviously mean that you... don't like it, were bored with it, etc. :p
 

HStallion

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Basically my thoughts on the video. I don't hate them like some people but I'm not quite sure sometimes what RLM is trying to get by with their videos. Its all rather disjointed and I wonder if they are actually trying to be funny or going for some weird Tim and Eric style nonsense but failing at it.
 
Huh? It was the shortest SW film and IMO had by far the best pacing of the three. I didn't feel there was any bloat whatsoever. If anything most people say it moves too fast and certain things happen too quickly lol

I think the Mustafar fight should have been much shorter and the Sidious vs Yoda fight, the Kashyyk and Grievious subplots should have been omitted.

Dedicate all that time on explaining Anakin turning to the Dark side. That is the climax of you trilogy not the final fight with Obi Wan. That fight could have lasted half as much and still have the same if not more impact.
 
I think the Mustafar fight should have been much shorter and the Sidious vs Yoda fight, the Kashyyk and Grievious subplots should have been omitted.

Dedicate all that time on explaining Anakin turning to the Dark side. That is the climax of you trilogy not the final fight with Obi Wan. That fight could have lasted half as much and still have the same if not more impact.

I thought it did explain it, but it wasn't enough for some. Oh well. But nah, the climax is Anakin and Obi-Wan's fight, and what happens to Anakin there. The Grievous/Kashyyk subplots were pretty short and didn't take much time away from the movie IMO. Like any movie there's going to be subplots and there's more going on than just Anakin.
 

phanphare

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I thought it did explain it, but it wasn't enough for some. Oh well. But nah, the climax is Anakin and Obi-Wan's fight, and what happens to Anakin there. The Grievous/Kashyyk subplots were pretty short and didn't take much time away from the movie IMO. Like any movie there's going to be subplots and there's more going on than just Anakin.

I'd agree with the other poster, the climax is when anakin turns. it's the....ahem....turning point of the movie. the fight is a result of that.
 
I'd agree with the other poster, the climax is when anakin turns. it's the....ahem....turning point of the movie. the fight is a result of that.

The fight is the climax of the film though. The climax of a story isn't 2/3 of the way into the thing and isn't necessarily a "turning point." The fight leading to Anakin's wounds and being put in the suit is the climax.
 

phanphare

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The fight is the climax of the film though. The climax of a story isn't 2/3 of the way into the thing and isn't necessarily a "turning point." The fight leading to Anakin's wounds and being put in the suit is the climax.

disagree. can't see how anakin turning to the dark side isn't a turning point. regardless of the physical wounds the damage was already done. hence why they were fighting in the first place.
 
disagree. can't see how anakin turning to the dark side isn't a turning point. regardless of the physical wounds the damage was already done. hence why they were fighting in the first place.

It's absolutely a turning point, but that doesn't make it the climax of the story. The climax begins when Kenobi and Padme go to Mustafar in a last-ditch effort to bring Anakin back.
 
I'd agree with the other poster, the climax is when anakin turns. it's the....ahem....turning point of the movie. the fight is a result of that.
Why does the fight need to be 10 minutes long to accomplish that though? All the actual character stuff happens in the first and last thirty seconds. Hopping on Super Mario lava bridges doesn't influence Darth Vadar as a character.
 

phanphare

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Why does the fight need to be 10 minutes long to accomplish that though? All the actual character stuff happens in the first and last thirty seconds. Hopping on Super Mario lava bridges doesn't influence Darth Vadar as a character.

yeah the fight sucks. I got more out of the saber fight at the end of a new hope.
 
Why does the fight need to be 10 minutes long to accomplish that though? All the actual character stuff happens in the first and last thirty seconds. Hopping on Super Mario lava bridges doesn't influence Darth Vadar as a character.

It's a long fight because it's the final battle of the trilogy. It makes sense that Lucas felt it should have been the longest fight. It makes sense for anything of that ilk, really. I'm not saying it was handled perfectly especially the last stretch of it, but there's nothing wrong with trying to make it feel epic. Whether or not you think it was is up to you. I looked forward to that fight for as long as I can remember and if it were a lot shorter I'd have been disappointed, even if it was prolonged by a bit of nonsense. I'll take it over something short and fleeting and I thought 90% of it was pretty fucking good.

yeah the fight sucks. I got more out of the saber fight at the end of a new hope.

There was a saber fight at the end of A New Hope? Ah, yeah. Sorry, I'm just mis-remembering, there's a saber fight at the end of The Force Awakens and since that's a retread of ANH, that means ANH has a saber fight at the end, too.
 

nded

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A few critics I like, off the top of my head. Kermode & Mayo, Michael Phillips, AO Scott, Devin Faraci, Jen Yamato, David Ehrlich, The Filmspotting Podcast.

Thanks for this. I dig Kermode/Mayo and I'll have to check out the others. I actually like RLM quite a bit as well, but mostly for the entertainment value of them riffing on bad movies and not so much for film criticism of any substance.
 

phanphare

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There was a saber fight at the end of A New Hope? Ah, yeah. Sorry, I'm just mis-remembering, there's a saber fight at the end of The Force Awakens and since that's a retread of ANH, that means ANH has a saber fight at the end, too.

both are a kenobi vs. a dark skywalker too!
 
Why are people excited for their TFA review again?

Because the reviews are one of the few truly funny things on YT and they usually dig up interesting behind the scenes material and highlight facts that aren't that well known.

I feel like everything has been said about TFA already
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I hope no one else on the internet does videos for movies that are older than one month to waste anyone's time.
 
RLM's dry humor isn't for everyone. It's the type of humor that usually has to grow a while for you to get the timing.

Not saying that RLM do it perfectly or that everyone who likes dry humor will like them, but I've seen a correlation amongst my peers with dry humor and fondness of RLM.

I showed my ex a couple of Best of the Worst, and she just found their humor to be a bit too mean.
 
I thought it did explain it, but it wasn't enough for some. Oh well. But nah, the climax is Anakin and Obi-Wan's fight, and what happens to Anakin there.
No matter what you think the climax is that fight should have been shorter and had more dialogue interspersed with the fighting. It isn't about the fight itself but the relationship between the characters. You didn't need to have them tour an entire molten steel factory to show that.
Anakin's turn to the dark side was built up for three movies. It really deserved more time.
The Grievous/Kashyyk subplots were pretty short and didn't take much time away from the movie IMO. Like any movie there's going to be subplots and there's more going on than just Anakin.

They are mostly pointless. Grievious is mainly there to get Obi Wan of Coruscant away from Anakin/Palpatine. You could just have him be away on a battle when Order 66 happens or hell have him witness the massacre in the Jedi Temple first hand to give him a better reason to want to go after Anakin.
Kashyyk was just sameless fan service. I would have been neat if you had a Kashyyk sequence as a greater part of the plot with more characters(like the initial plans for EP6) but ultimately what we got was just shoehorned in.
 
I know the Plinkett stuff brings in a lot of views, but I honestly like all their other stuff better and they should just retire it before it gets too stale
 
I know the Plinkett stuff brings in a lot of views, but I honestly like all their other stuff better and they should just retire it before it gets too stale
They haven't done a Plinkett review in a while.

They probably just reserve them for special occasions because they know it will get stale otherwise.
 
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