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Oculus' Palmer Luckey funds white-supremacist/misogynistic/anti-lgbt harassment group
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Doctor Ironic
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Actually, it won't affect Oculus not because the gaming industry is small but because the alt-right has already been accepted by America writ large.
petran79
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Those two? Nope!
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
The difference is that the KKK began with actual lynchings, and moved to this strategy as a re-branding effort. While the alt-right isn't explained as a white supremacy movement unless you choose to look at fringe elements of its membership, or look at it through what I'd call a caricaturizing lens that presupposes ethnocentric ideology.
Here's the main point:
You will never understand the appeal of the alt-right to the gamergate, anime avatar, reddit millennial set, if you just call them a "racist movement". They're millennials.. many of them have been raised with the foregone conclusion that ethnicities (and even sexual orientations) are equal. So why do they buy into it anyway?
It's more of a "fuck you" to what they perceive as liberal nags than it is an affirmation of a white identity. Know this.
JesseEwiak
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Actually, numerous polls have shown millenials are just as racist as their parents - https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ls-are-just-about-as-racist-as-their-parents/
You've bought into the myth. Nobody says "we're the bad guys." Even the KKK talked up how they were defending the South against the evil rich Northerners trying to ruin good Southern women blah blah blah.
Tranqueris
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Say what you want about this election but it's definitely doing a consistently good job of exposing people for who they are.
This view of Palmer Luckey as a Trump supporter who follows a rape apologist on twitter and is buddy buddy with scumbags from the alt right like Milo, is not one I had before today.
This view of Palmer Luckey as a Trump supporter who follows a rape apologist on twitter and is buddy buddy with scumbags from the alt right like Milo, is not one I had before today.
But you to be really, really dumb of you believe the country could actually get bankrupted by that.
You also would be even fucking dumber to support a guy who only doesnt have any actual feasible plans for the economy, but also bankrupted his own companies 4 fucking times.
I wish something like that could be pinned on one guy. But fact is, there are probably plenty of Facebook employees who could just as easily be guilty of something like that.
WTF is there security camera? They need to fire this guy asap
I am so stealing that one.
Fox_Mulder
Rockefellers. Skull and Bones. Microsoft. Al Qaeda. A Cabal of Bankers. The melting point of steel. What do these things have in common? Wake up sheeple, the landfill wasn't even REAL!
They are supporting a candidate who wants to deport 11 million undocumented, implement nation-wide stop-and-frisk, and increase government surveillance on a specific religious group.
They do not believe all ethnicities are equal and if they do, it is irrelevant because they clearly do not give a fuck about other ethnicities. You don't get to whine about the liberal nags labeling you when you vote for Donald Trump, a decision that anyone with half a brain knows will have negative repercussions for minorities in America.
'Wow.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Well you've seemingly bought into the myth of the liberal who puts an outdated 20th century paradigm on their enemy and thinks they know what's up.
I'm honestly warning people to research and understand this alt-right phenomenon because I don't think people actually get it and how appealing it is to middle Reddit America. These are people who aren't actually interested in the defence of their ethnic identity. They're mainly tired of progressives telling them what to say or think.
Today's young rebels aren't fighting dominant conversativism, as they would have been a mere decade ago. They're fighting dominant liberalism. If you don't get this, the phenomenon will escape you and take on a life of its own. I think it already has.
I agree that they do not give a fuck about other ethnicities.
And I agree that their denial of any and all progressive ideals works to support inequality.
I just don't think that's the main concern in their heads. It's not their motivation to join up.
That article doesn't really support your claim.
Quote
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Good catch.
Fox_Mulder
Rockefellers. Skull and Bones. Microsoft. Al Qaeda. A Cabal of Bankers. The melting point of steel. What do these things have in common? Wake up sheeple, the landfill wasn't even REAL!
Yep, he copied the primordial idea of VR (and launched it before sony).
Saint of Killers
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D: All of a sudden I find myself rooting for ZeniMax.
Man, 2016 just keeps getting more and more fucked up.
Man, 2016 just keeps getting more and more fucked up.
You know Palmer Luckey worked in VR before founding Oculus, right? And he had a collection of VR headsets for decades, right?
Fox_Mulder
Rockefellers. Skull and Bones. Microsoft. Al Qaeda. A Cabal of Bankers. The melting point of steel. What do these things have in common? Wake up sheeple, the landfill wasn't even REAL!
Before seeing what Sony was doing? Where are the receipts?
JesseEwiak
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I argued w/ Gamergaters on Reddit for months when I was unemployed. I know exactly what they think.
Yes, they're pissed they're not allowed to be assholes without reprecussions anymore, just like every generation of largely white guys have been upset that they can't be assholes in various ways anymore.
If these guys were 20 years older, they'd be in a bar bitching about how the new crop of secretaries won't let them grab their asses anymore. Or how their new "bitch of a boss" is ruining the company.
Factually incorrect. No, Sony isn't the inventor of VR. The technology has been in works before it and many companies besides Sony were looking into it.
snoopeasystreet
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That's fucked up. I probably won't support oculus from now on.
Not trying to defend the guy in any way but if I became a billionaire in my mid twenties, it probably would have effected my world view/political leanings. It's unfortunate he doesn't see his wealth as a means to make the world better but rather to fund prejudice and fear.
Not trying to defend the guy in any way but if I became a billionaire in my mid twenties, it probably would have effected my world view/political leanings. It's unfortunate he doesn't see his wealth as a means to make the world better but rather to fund prejudice and fear.
EventHorizon
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It won't affect Oculus because Palmer will get fired/distanced. Publicity is money. There is no amount of benefit that Palmer can now give to Oculus to make up for the bad publicity coming their way.
Alt-right has been accepted by a subsection of the country. It's a sizable subsection unfortunately, but it is still a subsection. Directly catering to it causes a substantial backlash which is evident here. That's why even Trump had to backtrack on his birtherism. However he is stuck because he needs the alt-right to come out and support him, but there aren't enough of them to win him the presidency outright.
Rats Off To Ya
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That picture continues to pay dividends.
The Titanic one earlier in this thread was incredible.
Fox_Mulder
Rockefellers. Skull and Bones. Microsoft. Al Qaeda. A Cabal of Bankers. The melting point of steel. What do these things have in common? Wake up sheeple, the landfill wasn't even REAL!
Which companies?
Are you for real? There are posts from Palmer Luckey going back to the mid 2000's on Ben Heck's forums and MTBS3D. Palmer Luckey is infamous for having the biggest VR collection in the world. Palmer Luckey has been running with VR circles since the early 2000's.
Might want to read up on the guy.
cheezcake
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That's not true though?
snoopeasystreet
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I'm pretty sure view-master and sensorama existed well before someone at Sony said "what if you could exist in a virtual world?".
cheezcake
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Nintendo, Sega, NASA, not to mention various military contractors. The idea of virtual reality is too common to attribute to a single inventor, but the current basic form in which virtual reality comes in can be attributed mostly to Palmer Luckey and Carmack, for better or worse.
Why shouldn't it be?
Megawarrior
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Wow...and today is Friday. Will be interesting to see what Facebook does or if they even acknowledge it.
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Palmer Luckey is a big name at a company called Oculus who is owned by a very large company called Facebook. Oculus makes a Virtual Reality Headset that has made a bit of an impact in the gaming sector. The Oculus has a number of software experiences and a few of them are games.
EventHorizon
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It's a news story that is going to affect Oculus, a company significantly involved with VR gaming. It's along the same lines when we discussed Hello Games getting flooded. A flood isn't gaming, but it affected a gaming company.
NASA, for example, in the 80's. Many of whom went on to eventually work at:
Virtuality, which produced VR amusement machines.
Flair II was doing VR development for the Atari Jaguar:
Which eventually got released as a consumer headset in the form of the philips scuba vr:
There was also Virtual IO, also called the iglasses, which produced probably the most successful VR headset:
But the highest profile VR headset was probably the VFX-1, which supported some high profile games like Quake and Descent:
Palmer Luckey is currently facing a law suit claiming he stole parts of the design of his original rift prototype from the company he used to work for, Total Recall Technologies. Total Recall Technologies makes HMDs.
SensibleSucker
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Bill Gates needs to school this fool. Hell, even Zuckerberg came round in the end.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I don't disagree. It's a reactionary movement against liberal in-roads.
I can agree that it's partially about people struggling against the loss of privileges. Many of which are probably white privileges.
But the alt-right, by and large, doesn't think of it in terms of their racial identity.
My line of discussion, if you'll follow back, is about the topic calling an alt-right trolling group a "white supremacist" group. I just think this is a inaccurate label, that doesn't describe the core appeal of the group, and won't help to combat it. This movement isn't about "the white man marches on". It's more about "you can't tell me not to shitpost and troll and say and do what I want".
supporting a candidate who supports racism is...still pretty racist.
E-Cat
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Palmer liked this tweet:
https://twitter.com/DrJillStein/status/779027584591994885
Perhaps not beyond reproach?
https://twitter.com/DrJillStein/status/779027584591994885
Perhaps not beyond reproach?
Iztok Mravlja
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I don't get this, are you saying Sony invented VR (which is obviously false), or that Luckey only started his Oculus project because Sony was also about to do their thing?
The latter isn't really a big deal.
Also, I don't appreciate you all wishing ill to Oculus as a whole - there's whole bunch of good people working there who have nothing to do with this.
Rats Off To Ya
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I mean, when we talk about the "alt-right" there are really (at least!) two distinct groups. There are the internet shitheads you talk about, but for the most part they're just the useful idiots for the actual racists that direct the ideological weight of the movement. Whatever reasons a person has to identify as "alt-right," they're fighting for an ultimately racist cause, whether they know it or not. And at this point, ignorance is not a valid defense.
EDIT: Also, Milo was involved with the forming of the specific group Palmer was funding, and that dude is just straight up racist.
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