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First Reviews for "The Magnificent Seven"
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Chances are the Sandler film is shorter so it has a head start.
HyperZone<3
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saw it last night, and its not great, but its no disaster. Its just on the happy side of mediocre really. Killing time in theaters until it finds its rightful place as a reliable timeslot filler on basic cable (this thing's got Heavy TNT Rotation written all over it). Its too long running time goes by amiably enough, most of the cast doesn't have enough to do, except for Chris Pratt, who has far too much. Fortunately the other six guys are all a lot more engaging than him.
-Byung-hun Lee gets another big budget Western feature to presumably cash a fat paycheck and waste his time in (this year's Terminator Genisys).
-Vincent D'Onofrio is deeply committed to playing his squirrelly character as weirdly as possible, his efforts were much appreciated by me.
-Ethan Hawke has an actual character arc, nice, lucky you, keep your agent pal.
-Manuel Garcia-Rulfo doesn't make much of an impression, but then again he doesn't have much of a character to play.
-Martin Sensmeier was awesome enough that I forgot that his character is kind of problematic. I really want to see more of this guy in the future, he rocks.
-and of course Denzel is great in this, the guy could sell me a lease for my own kidney.
But the long scenes wherein people aren't shooting each other or exchanging colorful, PG-13 quips (which admittedly is a substantial portion of its runtime) feels rather listless. Its like a checklist is getting whittled down as the story progresses, and the dearth of creativity or actual dramatic stakes is a real killer. But still, I enjoyed it, to an extant. Its not The Magnificent Seven, more like the Pretty Okay 4.5-Out of 7
-Byung-hun Lee gets another big budget Western feature to presumably cash a fat paycheck and waste his time in (this year's Terminator Genisys).
-Vincent D'Onofrio is deeply committed to playing his squirrelly character as weirdly as possible, his efforts were much appreciated by me.
-Ethan Hawke has an actual character arc, nice, lucky you, keep your agent pal.
-Manuel Garcia-Rulfo doesn't make much of an impression, but then again he doesn't have much of a character to play.
-Martin Sensmeier was awesome enough that I forgot that his character is kind of problematic. I really want to see more of this guy in the future, he rocks.
-and of course Denzel is great in this, the guy could sell me a lease for my own kidney.
But the long scenes wherein people aren't shooting each other or exchanging colorful, PG-13 quips (which admittedly is a substantial portion of its runtime) feels rather listless. Its like a checklist is getting whittled down as the story progresses, and the dearth of creativity or actual dramatic stakes is a real killer. But still, I enjoyed it, to an extant. Its not The Magnificent Seven, more like the Pretty Okay 4.5-Out of 7
Gunslinger
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Saw it last night. And it was a good action picture. Not as good as the 1960 version when it comes to character development. Hard to top Steve McQueen, Yul Brenner, James coburn, and Charlie Bronson. Also Eli Wallach was much better as the villain. But all in all it was a great action flick. Loved Denzel and Pratt. DON'T read if you don't want spoilers!!!!!!
Chris Pratt went out like a bad ass. I thought he was playing the McQueen character so him and Denzel going to survive.
Vampirolol
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Saw it. Well, the team itself worked but the tone of the movie was a little over the place. Having 7 different kinds of western characters was interesting, the city was actually the one that needed more character building. Also, some dialogues were just out of nowhere. Still, movie was good, probably the kind of western I'm not into (I'm a Leone kind of)
Literal spit take
30yearsofhurt
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Why would you watch this when you can watch the original?
Or the original original,
?
Both still stand up today far better than 95% of modern movies.
Or the original original,
Seven Samurai
Both still stand up today far better than 95% of modern movies.
andythinkpad
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What the fuck. Did the director know it was a classic? Sigh
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Rabbi_Vole
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At least the Yuma remake was decent
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BlueTsunami
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Did anyone else laugh at Vincent D'Onofrios choice of pitch? At first I held it back but some dudes in the back were openly laughing and I couldn't help it. That shit was hilarious. What made it even better is how it was obviously toned down the further the movie went.
DarkJediKnight
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We'll were laughing everyone he opened his mouth.
More_Badass
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I have to say, for all the issues with the movie, I was surprised by who lived and died.
darkwing-buck
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Just got back from seeing this, had a good time with this one. Pratt was hammy and I kinda cringed at
but all in all it was good fun. I was legit shook on how
. This movie really has me in the western mood. Gonna probably re-watch some classics including Seven Samurai which I haven't seen in almost 4 years.
his last line
Ethan Hawke died
I was also surprised by the "how" as much as the "who".
Dropping two at once from the gatling gun was a surprise.
At any rate, it was fun. Doesn't elevate the genre, or have any real surprises aside from the who lives and who doesn't angle, but overall solid. You could tell there was a longer, meatier film in there with a lot more character work. Scenes of the seven gathered together, around a fire or after a battle, would run 60 seconds with a few exchanges between main characters and a quip or two from the others. I'm guessing there was an awful lot more to them than that.
One angle the film didn't quite land - and this is pretty mild spoiler territory, but I'll tag it anyways - was
the transition from when they were doing it for the money, to protecting the town because it was the right thing to do. Denzel's character had enough backstory for it, but Pratt was more clearly a hired gun. They just toggle from mercenaries to protectors;
I really liked Chris Pratt in this, and Denzel killed it, as did Ethan Hawke. The rest were fun but didn't get nearly enough screen time.
Was nice to see a western again - it had been a long time. Hopefully we get a few more coming down the pipe.
More_Badass
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I dont know how it was in the original Magnificent Seven, but that aspect is very much in the spirit of Seven Samurai.
That happens in the original Magnificent Seven as well.
More_Badass
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Might be why. If you're into westerns and have seen a lot, this isnt going to be amazing. It's decent, the cast has good chemistry, and the action is great, but story-wise, character-wise, it's mediocre.
This is in the movie? What?
Good, not great movie. That last really drawn out fight could have been shortened a bit. I also got a bit of an headache from all the shooting at the end. Might have been the cinema I was in just cranking up the volume to 11, but I kinda dreaded every next round of the
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gatling guin
That last battle also never came close to the tension you felt when the 7 first freed the village. Now that shoot out was awesome
Decent. Was nice to see a big budget western on the big screen again.
Hope it does well enough. Was suprised at
death.
, since the
the fire shot felt cheap.
Hope it does well enough. Was suprised at
Pratt's
That was really bad. Yeah, I believe it was CG. I didn't really like that scene nor the return of
Goodnight
horse jumping over
More_Badass
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Yeah, that was surprising but so ridiculous that I thought it almost crossed over into parody territory.
The cast should put people in seats.
More_Badass
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#1 movie this weekend. I doubt it's bombing
I wouldn't send people in with hopes of good action. It's alright and fun, till the finale which is a few steps down to weak. They resorted to about every cheap shot possible for it.
kopitarrulez_11
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Just saw it was pretty good not too often you get some sweet western action lots of good action.
not gonna lie I cheered when Pratt fucked those clowns in the ass with the dynamite
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
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I liked it a lot, I have no knowledge of the original or of westerns in general though.
Felt like it needed more than a 12 age rating though.
Felt like it needed more than a 12 age rating though.
Murder. She Wrote
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Really meh movie with awful action. The action at the town siege was especially bad. Having so many people shot and killed is not exciting or cool it got boring after a while.
Also, the lack of racism was pretty fucking racist. Only time Denzel faced racism was in his introduction scene. Even the native american had an easy time of it.
Only good part of the movie was Vincent D'Onofrio, that man acted circles around everybody else.
Also, the lack of racism was pretty fucking racist. Only time Denzel faced racism was in his introduction scene. Even the native american had an easy time of it.
Only good part of the movie was Vincent D'Onofrio, that man acted circles around everybody else.
I thought the action was pretty good, on a shot by shot basis. It could have been choreographed better, though. They did that thing where we see the town getting ready for the fight, but they want the audience to be surprised by the particulars, which meat some of the logistics were obfuscated. There wasn't really much ebb and flow to the battle, just sustained chaos and then a transition into the ending action. Some things didn't also make a lot of sense.
I thought the idea with the trenches, boarded over, was so the horses would run over them and they could pop up and shoot from behind. Instead they jump up at close range.
And if you have a gatling gun, it would make more sense to use it first, then send your posse into town. But that would rob good guys winning -> good guys losing transition.
Pratt's death was a little over the top. I was thinking he was going to light the dynamite as he was riding and just barely making it close enough to lob it onto the gun. That would have been more realistic but not as dramatic a send off. It kind of tipped into weird territory since he'd been shot full of holes at that point. In a fight where everyone dies in one or two shots, it didn't play that well. Great payoff, though.
And if you have a gatling gun, it would make more sense to use it first, then send your posse into town. But that would rob good guys winning -> good guys losing transition.
Pratt's death was a little over the top. I was thinking he was going to light the dynamite as he was riding and just barely making it close enough to lob it onto the gun. That would have been more realistic but not as dramatic a send off. It kind of tipped into weird territory since he'd been shot full of holes at that point. In a fight where everyone dies in one or two shots, it didn't play that well. Great payoff, though.
Melkezadek
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IIRC that shot was a homage to a scene from the original Magnificent Seven, as was Denzel Washington firing his shotgun in the entrance of the saloon.
He has a lot to do in the movie. But fuck the guy has charisma in spades.
He needs meatier roles.
ElBoxyBrown
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After Django Unchained I think we can settle down on the racism. I thought it was refreshing to see almost everyone treat Denzel's character with respect. Same with the Native American character.
lightskintwin
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It ain't gonna happen in Hollywood films. In any big budget film, he'll get a supporting role at best.
Gabriel_Logan
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Did anyone watch the Magnificent Seven tv show? I remember liking that.
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