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Microsoft announces the Surface Studio
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This is for professionals i assume, not that much pricier than a cintiq 24hd, and that one still needs a pc to run.
Charles Alan Ratliff
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I got misty-eyed when she put the Dial on the screen.
PanicFreak
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Will the dial work with other surface products? Specifically the newest Surface Pros or Surface Books?
Well, this isn't a surface pro. It literally costs three times as much. It definitely has a market, but it's a niche one and not comparable to a $1k tablet hybrid.
Surface 3, 4 and book I believe.
LOL Me too!
It was a feeling of that everything is going to be ok. The human race will survive lol
The Studio won't be sold at a loss and they won't overproduce it. So you can add it to profitable Microsoft products list.
I didn't say it wouldn't be profitable.
Microsoft's booming Surface business disagrees with you.
All signs point to this thing likely becoming a big seller, especially within the business/tech/art community (where the Surface line is thriving).
ClayKavalier
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I'm surprised so many people are praising the design, I'm not feeling the bar and the two arms. Looks more utilitarian than beautiful to me.
The Dial is really, really cool though.
The Dial is really, really cool though.
Navidson REC
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Uhm, pretty sure this thing is not supposed to be lugged around in your backpack.
And as others have pointed out, this thing seems like a dream come true for digital artists. There's your target audience.
Me too. Looks like a lovely bit of kit but man it's expensive. I'm quite excited though about the new form factors that these computers are coming it, it's way too expensive for most people now but in 3-5 years?
boneyjangles
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Very cool, and this is from someone who was 'meh' on the surface pro, and actively dislikes the surface book .I don't know any creative pro's on windows, but that could change after seeing this.
Price point is fine, in fact, considering they are talking about limited quantities, I would bet they are losing money on every single device initially, and probably for a while!
How is the state of touch apps on Windows these days? I remember seeing 'Staffpad' and being impressed, but I haven't heard about much since. Last time I had a dip in it wasn't good. Stuff like photoshop had a couple of kludged in touch controls, I also saw Evernote dropped support for their windows touch app and just have the desktop version now.
That said, from what I saw in the video, looks like MS is pumping some money into a few cool creative apps to showcase their product.
Price point is fine, in fact, considering they are talking about limited quantities, I would bet they are losing money on every single device initially, and probably for a while!
How is the state of touch apps on Windows these days? I remember seeing 'Staffpad' and being impressed, but I haven't heard about much since. Last time I had a dip in it wasn't good. Stuff like photoshop had a couple of kludged in touch controls, I also saw Evernote dropped support for their windows touch app and just have the desktop version now.
That said, from what I saw in the video, looks like MS is pumping some money into a few cool creative apps to showcase their product.
Ah - I see, I was more looking at it as a desktop replacement I guess. Also, I'm in Canada, the CAD struggle is real.
I get paid in USD though
30yearsofhurt
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And it has a 3.5mm headphone jack. Now that's premium.
XiaNaphryz
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Not enough courage.
Are people too stupid to realize that this is a machine made for artists who draw/paint and content creators(which is not a niche market, it is Wacom's entire market).
It is priced high but not outrageously high considering the form factor and what you get. Cintiq monitors are just as expensive yet weight like a truck compared to this and nowhere near as appealing.
If you are looking for a computer to write your term paper with and play some league of legends yea this is not the machine for you.
It is priced high but not outrageously high considering the form factor and what you get. Cintiq monitors are just as expensive yet weight like a truck compared to this and nowhere near as appealing.
If you are looking for a computer to write your term paper with and play some league of legends yea this is not the machine for you.
Shogmaster
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For on screen action, probably SP5? But for now, only SS allows for on screen magic.
Shogmaster
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If you are concept artist in gaming, you are on a PC 99% of the time.
Lots of designers using PCs these days. split is probably 50/50.
This.
This is what a 27 inch wacom cintiq looks like:
It's insanely bulky, has a pretty mediocre screen, and costs 2800 USD, and it's only a monitor!
Oh now I remember the last time I saw a similar workstation product.
HP Z1. All the internals are housed on the monitor, it was pretty impressive for sure, but most of the housing was made of plastics and it definitely gave a bulky feeling while trying to swivel it around.
One of the top comments on Arstechnica thought they might be selling the base configuration at very thin margins.
http://www8.hp.com/us/en/workstations/z1-g3.html#belarus&pd1=1
HP Z1. All the internals are housed on the monitor, it was pretty impressive for sure, but most of the housing was made of plastics and it definitely gave a bulky feeling while trying to swivel it around.
One of the top comments on Arstechnica thought they might be selling the base configuration at very thin margins.
This is not a portable computer.
BeforeU
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Yup same Surface team who also designed Xbox One S. And I agree, Scorpio is in great hands
fuck next year is going to be awesome. Book 2, Pro 5, Scorpio and may be Surface Phone.Wanda/Wander
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Rich people have deep pockets.
BoosterDuck
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and you have to pay seperately for that stand too
I can't believe how lazy Wacom has gotten
Yup same Surface team who also designed Xbox One S. And I agree, Scorpio is in great hands
Next year is going to be expensive for me. I'm buying the surface book 2, a new gaming pc with 1080ti and possibly the next xbox/ scorpio.
I think they went with the GPU have doesn't require a form factor change for the cooling. The design of this desktop outweighs any desire Microsoft has to up the performance within it.
I'd assume that we will see a response from wacom that is 4K, as well as a Pascal model before March.
Yes, and also the insane web of cables you need to connect it to your computer.
And this thing is the industry standard lol
I doubt that. OEM's don't deal with retail or wholesale price.
Rich people actually have no pockets. Its so the pants stay even tighter. They just hire someone and put shit in their pockets instead.
Man I would do things to get one of these.
mmazurkiewicz
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why are people complaining about specs?
this isn't meant to play games but for photoshop. specs are likely more than good enough.
this isn't meant to play games but for photoshop. specs are likely more than good enough.
The 1000 series GPUs are better thermally though, they could potentially make the unit shorter if they wanted.
That is literally the definition of a niche market.
1060 laptop version is faster than a 980m and uses less power than a 970m.
Because newer parts exist. You could get much more performance for the same power draw, or much less power draw for the same performance.
BeforeU
Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
You make it sounds like they dont already know this lol
They know exactly who their target audience is. And they are only making them in limited quantities.
Vulcano's assistant
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I would be saving already if this was the case. I need GPUs for Octane render, even for real time visualization.
No, I do know this and have said so. And it's not an argument against the existence of the product. It's just not meant for the mass market, like an iMac is. I feel like the expectations preceding its announcement were what influenced these comparisons.
BeforeU
Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
In that case I agree, because this is not competing with iMac, they dont even offer cheaper/smaller version.
Well didn't see that coming, will never be able to afford one ever but more competition is nice if they're getting into this market. The price doesn't seem that bad when compared to the bullshit cintiq prices (which MS totally should make a direct competitor of). Kind of afraid of first/early gen problems it might get like surface tablet driver/firmware/BSOD issues.
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