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[SpecX]

Yeah Obama's definitely criticising DNC/Clinton's campaign there.

Good and he's right. While the Hillary camp is blaming the FBI, voters, etc, Obama clearly saw that she took those voters and states for granted by not visiting the people and not engaging with their concerns/issues. As much as I dislike Trump, he did just that, connected to the racists and people losing jobs. The DNC needs to get their shit together and understand what the base truly wants, not tell them what they need.

 

[theignoramus]

Obama calling out the terrible ground game and lack of messaging nationwide. Even if he may have indirectly caused some of these issues, it's good to hear him say those are some of the major DNC defects.

"I won Iowa"

 

[pirateluigi]

2018 candidates.

Good point. I really hope we're able to get a good ground game (and good turn out for once) for mid terms.

 

[Nibel]

Lmao I guess Dave was right about Obama having Trump shook.

Got him walking back his NATO comments in the presence of Barry O.

Yup

 

[MaulerX]

He threw Hillary under the bus big time. "I won Iowa because I spent 80 something days there". Wow.

 

[Zackat]

Elan Kriegel failed us tbh

 

[Frustrated_me]

He threw Hillary under the bus big time. "I won Iowa because I spent 80 something days there". Wow.

Good.

 

[Exile20]

He did say something wrong a few days ago, that we have to give Trump a chance. His conduct and cabinet choices since winning show that we absolutely cannot give him a chance.

That was the right thing to say. We can't destroy democracy in the name of Trump.

He threw Hillary under the bus big time. "I won Iowa because I spent 80 something days there". Wow.

There is only one person to blame here, Hillary.

 

[Dartastic]

That was the right thing to say. We can't destroy democracy in the name of Trump.

But at the same time, we can't just "give him a chance." We've had over a year to "give him a chance" and his cabinet picks are absolutely fucking frightening.

 

[Chococat]

I'm well aware, but what you are advocating is a step towards that dictator.

I can do nothing but hope that our institutions can withstand what has the potential to happen.

What exactly I advocating???

I'm just pointing out democracy are not a firewall.

With gerrymandering and voter suppression, and 50 different way votes are handled supported at the state level, we are already sliding further away from democracy.

 

[VendettaRed07]

For as much as Hillary worked towards his and prepared for it her whole life, she lost because she didn't put the effort in.

Thanks Hillary.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

That was the right thing to say. We can't destroy democracy in the name of Trump.

We can't let Trump destroy our Republic either.

 

[enzo_gt]

this is sounding like the last State of the Union all over again

bullet point after bullet point about how Obama turned the country around post-Bush

talk that shit bruh

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[Deleted member 1235]

stealth brag on the economy there...

 

[LegalEagleMike]

For as much as Hillary worked towards his and prepared for it her whole life, she lost because she didn't put the effort in.

Thanks Hillary.

It was her turn!

 

[SpecX]

He is throwing shade at the Clinton campaign for relying on demographic calculations and not campaigning:

Clinton campaign schedule:
http://www.p2016.org/clinton/clintoncal0816.html
August 18 - New York, NY
August 19 - Martha's Vineyard, MA
August 20 - Nantucket, MA, Martha's Vineyard, MA - 5 fundraisers
August 21 - Provincetown, MA, Osterville, MA - 2 fundraisers
August 22 - Beverly Hills, CA - 2 fundraisers
August 23 - Los Angeles, CA, Laguna Beach, CA, Piedmont, CA - 4 fundraisers
August 24 - Redwood City, CA, Los Altos, CA, Woodside, CA - 3 fundraisers
August 25 - Reno, NV - urban swing state campaign event
August 26 - None
August 27 - White Plains, NY
August 28 - Sag Harbor, NY, Southampton, NY, Bridgehampton, NY - 3 fundraisers
August 29 - East Hampton, NY, Quogue, NY - 2 fundraisers
August 30 - Sagaponack, NY, North Haven, NY - 2 fundraisers
August 31 - Cincinnati, OH - urban swing state campaign event

22 fundraising events, 2 visits to urban areas of swing states

This was Obama's schedule in the same period in 2008:
https://www2.gwu.edu/~action/2008/obamacal0808.html
August 18 - Albuquerque, NM
August 19 - Orlando, FL, Raleigh, NC
August 20 - Greensboro, NC, Martinsville, VA, Danville, VA, Lynchburg, VA
August 21 - Richmond, VA, Chester, VA, Petersburg, VA, Emporia, VA, Chesapeake, VA
August 22 - Chicago, IL
August 23 - Springfield, IL
August 24 - Eau Claire, WI
August 25 - Davenport, IA, Kansas City, MO
August 26 - Kansas City, MO
August 27 - Billings, MT, Denver, CO
August 28 - Denver, CO
August 29 - Monaca, PA, Aliquippa, PA, Beaver, PA
August 30 - Boardman, OH, Cleveland, OH, Marengo, OH, Dublin, OH
August 31 - Lima, OH, Toledo, OH, Hamilton, IN, Battle Creek, MI

0 fundraisers, multiple visits to urban and rural swing state areas.

The September calendars:
Obama - 5 fundraisers, visits to Detroit, MI, Monroe, MI, Milwaukee, WI, New Philadelphia, OH, Dillonvale, OH, York, PA, Columbia, PA, Lancaster, PA, Duryea, PA, Wyoming, PA, Terre Haute, IN, Flint, MI, Farmington Hills, MI, Riverside, OH, Green Bay, WI, Detroit, MI.

Clinton - 14 fundraisers, 1 visit to Philadelphia, 1 visit to Cleveland -- that's it for the Rust Belt in September!

Nice, great data points. I knew she spent too much time in California and New York. These were states she had no business being in as she had them locked. She went for the money/parties/elite and ignored the voters she needed at the bottom.

 

[cordy]

Yeah, I meant what I said.

Hillary's the Roman Reigns of politics. Real shit.

 

[Seductivpancakes]

We can't let Trump destroy our Republic either.

Or the rights of others.

 

[Dartastic]

Great question, especially re: Steve Bannon.

Obama should have commented on that IMO, and it does feel like he's dodging it.

 

[qcf x2]

Good and he's right. While the Hillary camp is blaming the FBI, voters, etc, Obama clearly saw that she took those voters and states for granted by not visiting the people and not engaging with their concerns/issues. As much as I dislike Trump, he did just that, connected to the racists and people losing jobs. The DNC needs to get their shit together and understand what the base truly wants, not tell them what they need.

But will the unflinching zealots accept this now that it's coming from Obama himself?

 

[dream]

Wow, she overtly fished for a soundbite ("Obama still thinks Trump unfit to serve!") and Obama basically said "nope, not giving it to you."

 

[jmdajr]

"Looks guys we're fucked and have to take up the ass. Go vote."

 

[whyamihere]

Great question, especially re: Steve Bannon.

Obama should have commented on that IMO, and it does feel like he's dodging it.

I can't believe he didn't answer that.

 

[ezekial45]

"Election's matter and voting counts"



This is on us. Man, I'm gonna miss this man.

 

[Tom Nook Sawyer]

"Looks guys we're fucked and have to take up the ass. Go vote."

He's always had a way with words

 

[Garrett 2U]

This answer is disturbingly true.

The American people voted for a man who aligns himself with white nationalist supporters.

 

[Goro Majima]

"Looks guys we're fucked and have to take up the ass. Go vote."

alternatively: "what part of 'don't boo, vote!' did people not understand?"

 

[Extollere]

Obama's candor, temperament, and honesty with the press will probably forever be unmatched.

Can't wait to see what a shit show Trump's press conferences will be...

 

[crowphoenix]

Nice, great data points. I knew she spent too much time in California and New York. These were states she had no business being in as she had them locked. She went for the money/parties/elite and ignored the voters she needed at the bottom.

Yes. She put in the work. She worked fucking hard, but she made a few key mistakes that cost her the election. However, hindsight is 20/20, and we do not yet know the logic behind those choices.

So, yeah, she, the DNC, and her campaign fucked up. But shit, Trump's campaign looked like a dumpster fire since the primaries, so I can't help but wonder what I would have done at the time.

 

[hypernima]

He is throwing shade at the Clinton campaign for relying on demographic calculations and not campaigning:

Clinton campaign schedule:
http://www.p2016.org/clinton/clintoncal0816.html
August 18 - New York, NY
August 19 - Martha's Vineyard, MA
August 20 - Nantucket, MA, Martha's Vineyard, MA - 5 fundraisers
August 21 - Provincetown, MA, Osterville, MA - 2 fundraisers
August 22 - Beverly Hills, CA - 2 fundraisers
August 23 - Los Angeles, CA, Laguna Beach, CA, Piedmont, CA - 4 fundraisers
August 24 - Redwood City, CA, Los Altos, CA, Woodside, CA - 3 fundraisers
August 25 - Reno, NV - urban swing state campaign event
August 26 - None
August 27 - White Plains, NY
August 28 - Sag Harbor, NY, Southampton, NY, Bridgehampton, NY - 3 fundraisers
August 29 - East Hampton, NY, Quogue, NY - 2 fundraisers
August 30 - Sagaponack, NY, North Haven, NY - 2 fundraisers
August 31 - Cincinnati, OH - urban swing state campaign event

22 fundraising events, 2 visits to urban areas of swing states

This was Obama's schedule in the same period in 2008:
https://www2.gwu.edu/~action/2008/obamacal0808.html
August 18 - Albuquerque, NM
August 19 - Orlando, FL, Raleigh, NC
August 20 - Greensboro, NC, Martinsville, VA, Danville, VA, Lynchburg, VA
August 21 - Richmond, VA, Chester, VA, Petersburg, VA, Emporia, VA, Chesapeake, VA
August 22 - Chicago, IL
August 23 - Springfield, IL
August 24 - Eau Claire, WI
August 25 - Davenport, IA, Kansas City, MO
August 26 - Kansas City, MO
August 27 - Billings, MT, Denver, CO
August 28 - Denver, CO
August 29 - Monaca, PA, Aliquippa, PA, Beaver, PA
August 30 - Boardman, OH, Cleveland, OH, Marengo, OH, Dublin, OH
August 31 - Lima, OH, Toledo, OH, Hamilton, IN, Battle Creek, MI

0 fundraisers, multiple visits to urban and rural swing state areas.

The September calendars:
Obama - 5 fundraisers, visits to Detroit, MI, Monroe, MI, Milwaukee, WI, New Philadelphia, OH, Dillonvale, OH, York, PA, Columbia, PA, Lancaster, PA, Duryea, PA, Wyoming, PA, Terre Haute, IN, Flint, MI, Farmington Hills, MI, Riverside, OH, Green Bay, WI, Detroit, MI.

Clinton - 14 fundraisers, 1 visit to Philadelphia, 1 visit to Cleveland -- that's it for the Rust Belt in September!

Disgust.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

this guy man

 

[enzo_gt]

Obama's use of words is almost unnervingly diplomatic and well-chosen.

Every pause I feel like he could easily go left and outburst but he always brings it back to some well-articulated point.

 

[rtcn63]

Obama bout to poochie out

 

[Ziltoidia 9]

He also basically highlighted Bernie's ourrevolution.com, talking about paying more attention in local and state elections, getting out to vote, etc.

 

[SpecX]

But will the unflinching zealots accept this now that it's coming from Obama himself?

Probably not, but I felt this way after the results came in and the data started hitting. I'm still on board with making these 4 years hell for Trump and his party though. Obama had it hard and the Republicans need to feel just as much pain as they caused Obama all these years.

 

[SparkleMotion]

'Regarding Trump'

I understood that reference.

 

[Garrett 2U]

Obama's candor, temperament, and honesty with the press will probably forever be unmatched.

Can't wait to see what a shit show Trump's press conferences will be...

The way he has answered this question is inspiring, and I think that is the best he can do at this point.

 

[greycolumbus]

I can't believe he didn't answer that.

Really? The president isn't going to sound the alarm that a white nationalist is in the white house. That'd be incredibly irresponsible at this juncture.

He's right. The people voted and this is what we got. Him getting into this now would fuck with the power transition.

Obama is being mealymouth about this whole thing but what exactly can he do?

 

[neshcom]

As much as I wish Obama would be even more crass about the current situation, him doing his best to get Trump into the office is the only thing he can do at this point. The last thing he would want is to be seen as icing out the incoming prez.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

dude nailed it

 

[hydragonwarrior]

Obama and Bernie need to bring someone up that's going to lead the DNC. Someone young but also someone who can listen. But at the same time, finds a way to play hard-ball politics like the hardest of Republicans (i.e. having enough leverage so that we don't have to play compromise all the damn time with progress obstructing GOP members).

 

[Tom Nook Sawyer]

As much as I wish Obama would be even more crass about the current situation, him doing his best to get Trump into the office is the only thing he can do at this point. The last thing he would want is to be seen as icing out the incoming prez.

Yep, this is the best thing he could do

 

[-griffy-]

"He's not qualified, but shit got real."

 

[cordy]

Obama - "If Trump tries to bring that fuck shit into America, the people will fuck him in the ass. That's basically it. He knows that."

That's what he's saying.

 

[QuantumBro]

.

Hope Hillary enjoyed spending the last two months partying, the hangover will last for the rest of her life.

 

[Garrett 2U]

Great question, especially re: Steve Bannon.

Obama should have commented on that IMO, and it does feel like he's dodging it.

Donald Trump did not hide his controversial stances or his supporters.
The American voters decided he is their best candidate for president.

Now obviously, President Obama doesn't believe that Donald Trump's values reflect the majority of US citizens, hence the call to actively vote in future elections.

 

[Impeccable]

We really need one last Luther the anger translator in light of all of this. Please.

 

[Zaphrynn]

Yes. She put in the work. She worked fucking hard, but she made a few key mistakes that cost her the election. However, hindsight is 20/20, and we do not yet know the logic behind those choices.

So, yeah, she, the DNC, and her campaign fucked up. But shit, Trump's campaign looked like a dumpster fire since the primaries, so I can't help but wonder what I would have done at the time.

Indeed. I hope the DNC is able to step back and look at how they failed and actively work on it. I do think arrogance played a huge role, along with a lot of the outright hostility.

 

[thecouncil]

We really need one last Luther the anger translator in light of all of this. Please.

the jokes are over at this point. let's not make light of it anymore.

 

[SpecX]

Yes. She put in the work. She worked fucking hard, but she made a few key mistakes that cost her the election. However, hindsight is 20/20, and we do not yet know the logic behind those choices.

So, yeah, she, the DNC, and her campaign fucked up. But shit, Trump's campaign looked like a dumpster fire since the primaries, so I can't help but wonder what I would have done at the time.

True and I'm curious what was the mindset of her team ignoring the rust belt like they did. I feel she should have went all out even though Trump was her opponent because she had so much on the line to be the first female President. This race felt like the tortoise vs the hare. Hillary being the hare had everything lined up to win it, but lost due to her overconfidence.