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LG promises HDR gaming input lag patch for 2016 OLED sets

I'd cancel that ASAP as noted. Bait and switch scam artists there judging by reviews.

Consider the Cleveland Plasma seconded. I bought my VT50 from them years ago and they are reputable and very good.

Cleveland Plasma is legit as fuck, bought my Kuro from them like eight years ago.
 

NeonDelta

Member
Downloaded update for my 620V and I can now keep HDCP on all the time rather than turning it off before turning the pro off.
 
Speaking of 3D, it turns out it also shares its own preset settings, so I'd like to ask what the recommended settings for 3D content would be (if they're different to what's already been recommended). Do you also get HDR through 3D as well?

In any case I fired up the latest Death Stranding trailer in 3D. Looks pretty goddamn amazing. Makes me wonder how actual 3D movies look.

Is there a calibration thread for these sets somewhere? I've had mine running for 408 hours now, the panel is decent with no bleed and only minor banding, but i don't feel the oomph that everyone says about 3D or even standard pictures if I am honest.

I've tried calibrating it by eye, but i just don't have enough knowledge to use test pattern videos and what have you.
 

Deepo

Member
Congrats, my fellow Norwegian! You could've gotten the E6 for €100 more on Black Friday (I did, and it's amazing), but it's essentially the same TV (if you don't mind the curve and have no need for a soundbar). You will not regret it - the PQ is stunning!

Thanks! Now I kind of feel like an idiot though, haha. Would be nice to have an additional HDMI input. Don't need the sound bar, and the curve is actually something I like, as I'm only using this TV alone, so I'm always in the sweet spot. Guess I'll be ok.

I'm very impressed with the set in games with HDR support, it's insane going back and forth between SDR and HDR.

But I have one complaint that might be a deal breaker for me. It seems the Game Mode is locked to Wide Color Gamut, and there's no way to adjust the white balance accurately, outside the Color Temperature slider. I managed to get the gray scale just about perfect with the Color Temperature setting, but the Wide Color Gamut is a bigger problem. Using the TV as a PC monitor in Game Mode makes all the colors be insanely over-saturated.

Is there any way to get the TV into low input lag mode without using Game Mode?
 

julrik

Member
Thanks! Now I kind of feel like an idiot though, haha. Would be nice to have an additional HDMI input. Don't need the sound bar, and the curve is actually something I like, as I'm only using this TV alone, so I'm always in the sweet spot. Guess I'll be ok.

I'm very impressed with the set in games with HDR support, it's insane going back and forth between SDR and HDR.

But I have one complaint that might be a deal breaker for me. It seems the Game Mode is locked to Wide Color Gamut, and there's no way to adjust the white balance accurately, outside the Color Temperature slider. I managed to get the gray scale just about perfect with the Color Temperature setting, but the Wide Color Gamut is a bigger problem. Using the TV as a PC monitor in Game Mode makes all the colors be insanely over-saturated.

Is there any way to get the TV into low input lag mode without using Game Mode?
Not yet unfortunately. It's the only negative I can think of with my E6 so far.

With the new HDR Game Mode you can opt for Normal gamut, so it's pretty strange that they locked it to Wide in SDR. I guess more and more games will use Wide in the future (GT Sport), but still..

Time for a new petition, guys? :p
 

Deepo

Member
Not yet unfortunately. It's the only negative I can think of with my E6 so far.

With the new HDR Game Mode you can opt for Normal gamut, so it's pretty strange that they locked it to Wide in SDR. I guess more and more games will use Wide in the future (GT Sport), but still..

Time for a new petition, guys? :p

Yeah, it's pretty much perfect apart from that. The more perfect it gets, the more nitpicky I get :)
 

x3sphere

Member
On my C6 for SDR content I use ISF Expert + renaming input to PC. No idea what the input lag is like in this mode but it feels lower than what HDR Standard was. I can't tell a difference at all from Game mode.
 

jstevenson

Sailor Stevenson
Not yet unfortunately. It's the only negative I can think of with my E6 so far.

With the new HDR Game Mode you can opt for Normal gamut, so it's pretty strange that they locked it to Wide in SDR. I guess more and more games will use Wide in the future (GT Sport), but still..

Time for a new petition, guys? :p

yeah I'd really like to see LG unlock that setting.

That said, I have an ISF calibration coming up, and while it'll be extra work for him, I'm guessing he'll be able to calibrate from that wide setting and get it dialed in.
 

julrik

Member
I just tweeted John Archer, the Forbes journalist who helped us with the HDR Game Mode, and asked him if there was any chance that he could contact them again regarding the locked colour gamut. If more people tweet him, he might do it. Doesn't hurt to try.

@BigJohnnyArcher
 

Deepo

Member
yeah I'd really like to see LG unlock that setting.

That said, I have an ISF calibration coming up, and while it'll be extra work for him, I'm guessing he'll be able to calibrate from that wide setting and get it dialed in.

It would be very interesting to hear the results there. As far as I understand, we're stuck with only Color Temperature and the Color settings to tweak that in Game mode. It would be great if you could post the results if he's successful, assuming of course that he calibrates the Game mode.

Oh, and Ratchet & Clank on the Pro looks absolutely bonkers on this set, great job on that! :)

Not yet unfortunately. It's the only negative I can think of with my E6 so far.

With the new HDR Game Mode you can opt for Normal gamut, so it's pretty strange that they locked it to Wide in SDR. I guess more and more games will use Wide in the future (GT Sport), but still..

Time for a new petition, guys? :p

I took drastic steps and mounted up my old Sony W653 next to the LG. That certainly made it clear how much of a jump the LG really is. It kind of looks like the Sony is set to the wrong black level (Full vs Limited) next to the LG, even though it's not.
 

jstevenson

Sailor Stevenson
It would be very interesting to hear the results there. As far as I understand, we're stuck with only Color Temperature and the Color settings to tweak that in Game mode. It would be great if you could post the results if he's successful, assuming of course that he calibrates the Game mode.

Oh, and Ratchet & Clank on the Pro looks absolutely bonkers on this set, great job on that! :)
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yeah I guess I was assuming service menu trickery, but we shall see
 

SOLDIER

Member
Is there a way to have the TV automatically switch to a new input when turning on a device? I'd like to be able to, for example, watch TV on my cable box, turn on the PS4 and have the TV automatically switch to the PS4's input.

Also, I've got one of those Xfinity cable boxes with a voice-activated remote. Is there a way to get the LG's remote to also control the cable box with its voice remote?
 
Does anyone have calibration settings for game mode? I don't want the 50ms of input lag on ISF modes, but I'm struggling to get the picture to look similar to ISF bright room properly calibrated. Please help!!
 
Is there a way to have the TV automatically switch to a new input when turning on a device? I'd like to be able to, for example, watch TV on my cable box, turn on the PS4 and have the TV automatically switch to the PS4's input.

Also, I've got one of those Xfinity cable boxes with a voice-activated remote. Is there a way to get the LG's remote to also control the cable box with its voice remote?

That's just HDMI-CEC isn't it? Not sure what terminology LG uses though. I know you have to enable it on both the TV and the device you want to switch to.
 
Is there a way to have the TV automatically switch to a new input when turning on a device? I'd like to be able to, for example, watch TV on my cable box, turn on the PS4 and have the TV automatically switch to the PS4's input.

Also, I've got one of those Xfinity cable boxes with a voice-activated remote. Is there a way to get the LG's remote to also control the cable box with its voice remote?

General > SIMPLINK(HDMI-CEC)
 

julrik

Member
Figured I may as well ask here, since there are several OLED and E6 owners in this thread:


I have used my E6 for two days now, and I'm generally very pleased with it, except for a couple of things.

1. I have a pretty obvious vertical band on the left side of the screen. I have noticed it several times with normal content. I have not put up slides to look for problems.

2. There is short trailing/ghosting on fast movements. I noticed this while gaming Rocket League at first, and then when playing BF 1. The ball in RL has a very noticable trail (short, but noticable) when going fast, and the trail is also noticable on the guns in BF when I'm looking around quickly.

How normal is this? Do all the E6's have a vertical band? And is that trailing/ghosting normal on the OLEDs? Can't remember seeing it on my EG910(0) last year, and you'd think there would be none, with OLED response time being so low.
 

jstevenson

Sailor Stevenson
Figured I may as well ask here, since there are several OLED and E6 owners in this thread:


I have used my E6 for two days now, and I'm generally very pleased with it, except for a couple of things.

1. I have a pretty obvious vertical band on the left side of the screen. I have noticed it several times with normal content. I have not put up slides to look for problems.

2. There is short trailing/ghosting on fast movements. I noticed this while gaming Rocket League at first, and then when playing BF 1. The ball in RL has a very noticable trail (short, but noticable) when going fast, and the trail is also noticable on the guns in BF when I'm looking around quickly.

How normal is this? Do all the E6's have a vertical band? And is that trailing/ghosting normal on the OLEDs? Can't remember seeing it on my EG910(0) last year, and you'd think there would be none, with OLED response time being so low.

you should run a full compensation cycle that takes a couple hours. Uniformity does improve on the E/G/C/B series after it goes through some compensation cycles. Too early to judge after just two days.

Trailing shouldn't be noticeable / present, though what are your motion/Trumotion settings, as that can cause weirdness
 

julrik

Member
you should run a full compensation cycle that takes a couple hours. Uniformity does improve on the E/G/C/B series after it goes through some compensation cycles. Too early to judge after just two days.

Trailing shouldn't be noticeable / present, though what are your motion/Trumotion settings, as that can cause weirdness
I ran a full compensation cycle after the first 10 hours, since that supposedly improves uniformity. I've read that it's not recommended to do the full compensation cycle often, though, and that it's meant to be used after thousands of hours.

The trailing was in Game Mode, with every motion setting, etc, turned OFF.
 
I ran a full compensation cycle after the first 10 hours, since that supposedly improves uniformity. I've read that it's not recommended to do the full compensation cycle often, though, and that it's meant to be used after thousands of hours.

The trailing was in Game Mode, with every motion setting, etc, turned OFF.

I ran it twice. Once out of the box and then again when I noticed some issues on the screen. Both in the same day of ownership. Haven't had a problem since. I do see some light banding on a flat grey screen, but it's completely invisible with normal content viewing.
 
I ran a full compensation cycle after the first 10 hours, since that supposedly improves uniformity. I've read that it's not recommended to do the full compensation cycle often, though, and that it's meant to be used after thousands of hours.

The trailing was in Game Mode, with every motion setting, etc, turned OFF.

A guy over at the AVS forum contacted LG directly about manual compensation cycles and they said that there was zero issues with running it regularly. Take that as you will though, of course.

I have a 609 panel on a 65" E6 and i have banding on the left side that is still there after about 400 hours. The rest of the set is flawless though and i can only really see it on the test pictures or specific loading screens with faint grey backgrounds. If you don't have any vignetting or bleeding then you are on the right track with the panel lottery.

If anyone is interested here are a bunch of photos of the screen at 45 hours and this album is the screen at 408 hours
 

SOLDIER

Member
General > SIMPLINK(HDMI-CEC)

Isn't this just so that you can have a device turn on/off when the TV does the same? I'm talking about when the TV is already on and I turn on a console...the TV will say that the PS4 is available, but it won't automatically switch over to that input.
 
Isn't this just so that you can have a device turn on/off when the TV does the same? I'm talking about when the TV is already on and I turn on a console...the TV will say that the PS4 is available, but it won't automatically switch over to that input.

The HDMI CEC worked when I enabled it on my Samsung TV and Shield TV, it would always switch to the shield input ( and I found it was quite annoying when my nephew sometimes accidently turned on the Shield when I was playing game). I haven't tried it on LG TV yet but I assume it would be the same.
 

Mashing

Member
Would be nice if LG would roll out the .65 update (HDCP hanshake fix) to my region. It's been weeks now since it was first released.
 

ukas

Member
Isn't this just so that you can have a device turn on/off when the TV does the same? I'm talking about when the TV is already on and I turn on a console...the TV will say that the PS4 is available, but it won't automatically switch over to that input.

It switches over to the input if the device supports it which the PS4 does.
 

Deepo

Member
No news about EU model firmware ?

www.avforums.com

Post 239 said:
Good Afternoon,

Thank you for your email. We apologise that there has been confusion surrounding this for you and we can now confirm that it will be available in the UK. We have managed to get a working patch, which is currently being rolled out for E6 and C6 models, so you may expect to receive it shortly. It is the B6 that will be on a different rollout due to hardware differences.

Kind Regards

LG Electronics UK Helpdesk

Woop woop :)
 

SOLDIER

Member
It switches over to the input if the device supports it which the PS4 does.

Is it something you need to enable in the PS4's settings? If so, I forgot to do that.

Still wondering if it's possible to use the LG's voice remote to act as the voice remote for a Comcast X1 box.
 

ukas

Member
Is it something you need to enable in the PS4's settings? If so, I forgot to do that.

Still wondering if it's possible to use the LG's voice remote to act as the voice remote for a Comcast X1 box.

Yes you need to turn on the HDMI device link on the PS4. I think it's under System in the Settings menu.
 

Weevilone

Member
Is it something you need to enable in the PS4's settings? If so, I forgot to do that.

Still wondering if it's possible to use the LG's voice remote to act as the voice remote for a Comcast X1 box.

I think you'd have just as good luck screaming at your cable box really loud, as trying to get your LG remote to voice control your cable box.
 

SOLDIER

Member
I think you'd have just as good luck screaming at your cable box really loud, as trying to get your LG remote to voice control your cable box.

Alternatively, anyone ever tried the Xbox One's Kinect with one of these cable boxes?

I just like to have as few remotes as possible. The LG remote being able to control (and even turn on/off) various devices makes it a strong contender for my Logitech Harmony remote.
 

Weevilone

Member
Alternatively, anyone ever tried the Xbox One's Kinect with one of these cable boxes?

I just like to have as few remotes as possible. The LG remote being able to control (and even turn on/off) various devices makes it a strong contender for my Logitech Harmony remote.

http://www.lg.com/us/support/answers/tvs2015/oled/your-remote

Says you can control "compatible set top boxes" so it's a matter of whether yours is one, and how well it does this. Might just be very basic point and click stuff I'd bet.
 
Isn't this just so that you can have a device turn on/off when the TV does the same? I'm talking about when the TV is already on and I turn on a console...the TV will say that the PS4 is available, but it won't automatically switch over to that input.

When you have it set on the TV and the ps4 pro it does what you are asking. However it also automatically turns the ps4 on when ever you hit the ps4 input on the TV. I had to turn it off cause of this.
 
Will all LG 4K HDR TVs get that HDR Game mode update? Or is it just for the OLED TVs? The last update for my TV was in October. Ive checked the LG website to and theres no new update.
 

Drahcir

Member
Will all LG 4K HDR TVs get that HDR Game mode update? Or is it just for the OLED TVs? The last update for my TV was in October. Ive checked the LG website to and theres no new update.

My LG is not OLED. It's one of the inexpensive 43UH6100 4k TVs and last week I sent a tweet to them asking about the update to HDR in Game mode specifically with my TV and the other day they replied saying that the update will roll out soon. That's all. Just waiting for it. My current version is 04.30.40.
 

Paz

Member
Meanwhile those of us in Australia paying pretty much the highest prices for these sets in the world are left waiting on our E6's even for the HDCP fix, let alone HDR Game mode.

Annoying.
 
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