EASTC0AST_GH05T
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Reading the comics I know exactly where the note came from but don't want to spoil it for anyone.
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The Walking Dead Season 7, Part 1 Sundays on AMC
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Huh? I read the comics and have no clue where the note is from. Care to spoiler tag it?
EASTC0AST_GH05T
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I believe the note was left by the mysterious person you see stalking Rick. That person while I don't know who plays the character I believe comes from The Whisperers faction. When Rick took those weapons I believe he openened up a new can of worms with the Whisperers. I believe the note and weapons was left by them.
I thought it was kinda poorly done as well, if some people had cautiously gathered and stayed back a bit to watch it would have been better, but it looked like they all just form up in time to see the big scene! At first I was wondering if some were Spencers people thinking this was going to be their revolution moment but familar faces put that to rest quick enough.
It's not surprising if over time the dead got slower and less intelligent, the recently deceased likely moved quicker, were harder to kill due to still having more solid bodies and probably still had some minor coherent thought that triggered at times ie: knowing to turn a door knob, in some way perhaps knowing a beloved object from life ie: doll.
I still love the scene when the group came across that old church and opened it and inside were a bunch of the dead who were sitting in the pews and turned around. It was kind of silly yet creepy at the same time because who knows....perhaps when they died that part of them still lingered enough they sat when they came back out of some memory until food showed up.
See? And I forgot about this, lol.
Ya I remember, that was a good scene. Still, the actual reason they were doing all those things is because Darabont was showrunner, and he wanted the walkers to do stuff like that. Season 2 had a different showrunner and the walkers ended up changing to be like the comics.
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ahh okay I see what you mean now. While I really do wanna see the whisperers (they're my favorite enemy group from the comics) I think it's way too soon for them to show up. Plus filming spoilers point to the mystery person not being a whisperer. I really don't expect them to show up till season 9. I think AOW is going to be all of season 8 and we might see hints of them throughout season 8. Personally I think it would be a huge mistake getting the whisperers involved this early. They need their own time to shine. Right now it should be all about Negan and the saviors.
It's possible that you're onto something. Scott Gimple said it was possible to introduce the faction early and Mario Bello was cast in an unspecified role for season 8, leading me to believe she might play Alpha.
I see. To be fair to Negan though, Carl had a try at his life, Rosita, and Spencer was a damn fool. So Rick really maybe wasn't wrong about having a life if they co-operated, but nobody else wanted to.
RiderKairuu
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She pretty much figured she was doomed anyway. The thing about the Saviors is that not all of them are technically bad, but they'd no sooner die than jeopardize/compromise their position/role in the faction. It's an aspect that the show really hasn't gotten into much.So did that lady tell Michonne how to killer her and get away? and if so why would she?
Also I laughed hard at them happily walking towards the mansion at the end. "Off to destroy another settlement."
bitbydeath
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I agree, also the person following them wasn't wearing a skin.
Not to mention their should be a time jump that gives the Whisperers time to move into the area, if they were already their it'd be known to the existing groups
Not to mention their should be a time jump that gives the Whisperers time to move into the area, if they were already their it'd be known to the existing groups
fushi
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"Wait, who is that kid?
Oh, Carl..."
This show sure has been running for a while, huh?
So can anyone explain me what Michonne saw on the street around episode 3 or 4? After she practised with the rifle and gave up she saw something. It was some scorched stuff but I couldn't tell what it was and neither did the show explained it. But she was really nervous when seeing it.
Ryo Hazuki
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Think you're talking about the burning mattresses that Negan's men took from them. They basically took their bedding and then dumped it all and burnt it, showing they're just dicks and don't actually need the stuff.
Oh fuck. Okay that's really a dickmove. Yeah this pretty much confirms it that there is no peacefully coexistens with the saviors. Thanks
Not a chance. Waaaaaay too soon. And nothing about that place and the note gave any impression of having to do with that group.
AngmarsKing701
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Nah. The Queen will reign.
Has anyone watched the pilot lately? I watched it this week after only seeing it when it first aired. Great episode.
Anyways it seemed like they had intentions at that time to give the zombies memories. The little girl zombie picking up her teddy bear and Morgans wife hanging out at her house and trying to open the door are what gave me this thought. I'm glad they didn't stick with that plan though.
Anyways it seemed like they had intentions at that time to give the zombies memories. The little girl zombie picking up her teddy bear and Morgans wife hanging out at her house and trying to open the door are what gave me this thought. I'm glad they didn't stick with that plan though.
Consumer
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Was re-watching the MSF and couldn't help but notice something that made me feel kinda bad for Spencer.
It seems he just wanted Negan to dethrone Rick, not kill him like I (and others) thought. When Negan first introduces the notion of killing Rick ("why don't you just kill him yourself?"), Spencer is at a loss for words yet he's denying it ("what? No no, I didn't-- I don't--") in the same manner Aaron denied writing that "you still lose" note to the saviours. In both cases, they didn't have time to respond; I truly think Spencer just wanted Rick "demoted", which definitely doesn't warrant being disemboweled.
That sucks.
It seems he just wanted Negan to dethrone Rick, not kill him like I (and others) thought. When Negan first introduces the notion of killing Rick ("why don't you just kill him yourself?"), Spencer is at a loss for words yet he's denying it ("what? No no, I didn't-- I don't--") in the same manner Aaron denied writing that "you still lose" note to the saviours. In both cases, they didn't have time to respond; I truly think Spencer just wanted Rick "demoted", which definitely doesn't warrant being disemboweled.
That sucks.
That's probably true in the show but Negan still would have thought he was a coward and done it anyway I think. Still, I agree it sucks.
Meh people feel bad for Spencer? Dude went super fake and tried kissing ass to get ahead in Negan's world. He went behind Rick's back with his plan without providing any evidence or argument for why he'd be a better leader. He has no real experience or reason to convince anyone that he should take Rick's place other than "my mom".
Dude rolled the dice big time and Negan saw through his shit from the beginning. He represents the worst of the Alexandrians - naive, inexperienced, and unwilling to learn from hardened survivors.
I've got no sympathy for these types of characters. They're worse than cowards.
Dude rolled the dice big time and Negan saw through his shit from the beginning. He represents the worst of the Alexandrians - naive, inexperienced, and unwilling to learn from hardened survivors.
I've got no sympathy for these types of characters. They're worse than cowards.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Spencer deserved every inch of that knife, if you ask me. He threw Rick under the bus to a violent lunatic. That's as good as pointing a gun at Rick and/or his family.
I took that as him realizing that Negan was accusing him of being weak, and was unable to come up with a good response due to the panic of the trouble he was suddenly in.
Damn I forgot all about how the show was in the beginning. Somebody mentioned running zombies I damn sure dont remember that, lol.
What I found interesting is a lil easter egg with the show: each season the title decays more every new season. In that sense I can understand zombies running at first then not anymore. Like from time to time some zombies seem faster than others.
That wouldnt explain freshly killed ppl turning into zombies and not running tho...
RustyNails
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I'm really hoping we see more of bootleg gerard butler in the second half of the season. Easily one of the better side characters introduced this year.
The perfect Dark
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Finally watched the first 8 episodes of season 7. Carl is gonna kill Negan with Lucille, I'm pretty sure....after Rick shot him first of course.
Oh yeah...and how can anyone be #TeamNegan? This guy is a sadist and a psychopath.
Great acting btw.
But the first episode...while very tense and amazing...was just too much. I know they just 'copied' the comics but that was disgusting. The violence was over the top. This scene would've been better without the gore and all that crap. It was just....shocking....and that's cheap.
I don't have anything against violence in movies but TWD just jumped the shark here.
edit: Season 7 is way better than season 6 so far. Season 6 was the worst...boring as hell. 1-3 were the best and 4 was still good.
Oh yeah...and how can anyone be #TeamNegan? This guy is a sadist and a psychopath.
Great acting btw.
But the first episode...while very tense and amazing...was just too much. I know they just 'copied' the comics but that was disgusting. The violence was over the top. This scene would've been better without the gore and all that crap. It was just....shocking....and that's cheap.
I don't have anything against violence in movies but TWD just jumped the shark here.
edit: Season 7 is way better than season 6 so far. Season 6 was the worst...boring as hell. 1-3 were the best and 4 was still good.
-Pyromaniac-
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I agree!! Though in the trailer for the rest of the season you can (show spoilers I guess?)
sort of see daryl punching the shit out of him so I'm pretty sure he does or says something stupid!!
WaffleTaco
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Season 6 Part 2 was probably the best the show has ever been. Something happened each episode and pushed the story forward. Season 7 was pretty boring and I say this as a fan. It was poorly paced and they made a few episode longer than they should have been and dragged things out (Episode 1, Episode 3, Tara).
The perfect Dark
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I agree with your opinion that there are at least two bad episodes (filler) in season 7 but the entire first half of season 6 was the worst of all TWD seasons imo. And seasons 5 wasn't good either...
WaffleTaco
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I didn't like the first half of Season 6 either. That was probably one of the bigger filler arcs the show has had. Season 5 Part 1 was really bad too. I liked Part 2 though because it was really interesting to see them interact with a new group that really had no experience.
The perfect Dark
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Yeah, I agree.
Still, the two deaths of 7-1 were just disgusting.
It felt like 10 minutes of breaking their skulls. I was like 'Yeah, I get it...move on'....but it didn't stop. That was torture porn and sadism. Not Negan's sadism...the producer's sadism. This shit is not TWD. TWD is splatter, sure....but I don't like watching humans getting tortured and murdered terribly. Especially not when they murder characters that are important for the show. I get why they did it but it just felt wrong...for the show. It was just for shock value. There aren't many great characters left. Maybe Rick and Daryl...(Michonne...okay) but that's it. They shouldn't have copied the comics. This is not a comic, it's a TV show. You just can't kill every famous or interesting character and expect to get applause.
I'm still watching it because I like Negan (the actor of course, not the character) but after that...? I'm not sure. I was already thinking about quitting the show in season 6.
I just found out that my dad stopped watching the show after the premier as well for the same reasons you listed. I was surprised because he watches plenty of other gory shows but the way this was done just turned him off from TWD. He hasn't watched since and has no plans to return.
The perfect Dark
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I can totally understand him
Violence in movies or tv shows is okay as long as it has a purpose. This scene though...it was like "Hey, look what we're doing to one (two) of your favorite characters. Just for fun. Look how brutal it is! It's the most brutal episode you've ever watched on Tv! And you know what? It's not only brutal, it's unnecessarily gory, too! Enjoy!"
Glen's fake death scene was way more impactful than his actual death. Of course I don't hate the show because they killed Glen. But I hate the producers because how they did it.
And btw: The show would be better with Glen. He was a very important character. Fuck the comic. ^^
-Pyromaniac-
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I thought the premier was perfect. A broken Rick wouldn't be as believable otherwise. He has seen death of his people before. This needed to be something unimaginable, and they did it. It justified his actions in the episode or two following before he decides to fight back.
I don't blame anyone for having a weak stomach for it. You can say it's not that and you just thought it was cheap or somethin but I call that coping mechanisms
I don't blame anyone for having a weak stomach for it. You can say it's not that and you just thought it was cheap or somethin but I call that coping mechanisms
The perfect Dark
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I hope not because this guy is a fucking psycho.
I really don't care who he was before all this shit happens...I just hope he dies in the most painful way.
The governor though...I really liked him. He was a bad person...sure...but he was a human being.
A better actor, too (yeah shitstorm incoming)
(And btw: The show fell apart after his death)
Negan is just pure evil...like the devil himself. I don't care about who he was or what he wants. He deserves to die.
I want an origin story of the governor....THAT would be interesting.
Ya I think there's a good chance we get an episode like that. I don't think it will be this season tho.
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Negan's backstory is still being told every month in Image Plus. A couple more months and it's going to be finished. So I don't expect it to be shown in the show till it's at least done in the comics.
RustyNails
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So this pic has been floating around. New addition? Or just a lame-o tabloid garbage? Its Priyanka from Quantico.
RatskyWatsky
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They were presenters at the Golden Globes. Why would that have any bearing on The Walking Dead?
RustyNails
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Didnt know that. Its been circling in my social media group.
MulderYuffie
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So this pic has been floating around. New addition? Or just a lame-o tabloid garbage? Its Priyanka from Quantico.
JDM being adorable as usual tho wish I was her!
More_Badass
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Supposedly the violence got toned down in the second half of the season
http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/the...ne-hurd-colman-domingo-josh-sapan-1201962566/
http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/the...ne-hurd-colman-domingo-josh-sapan-1201962566/
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WaffleTaco
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*rolls eyes* The only thing that was violent was Negan bashing into the heads. And that was to emphasize how much of a villian he is. It's a Zombie show where people eat each other, what the fuck are you watching it for if you can't tolerate excessive violence.
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Lol at them toning down the violence. But in all honestly, fuck the people that watch a show like this and complain about violence. What the hell do you expect in a show about eating people and survival? Y'all ruin everything, that genuinely pisses me off.
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