Yeah 80/20 not 90/10
I never though that would be indicative of a mainline game thought
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NPD - FFXV experienced the best console launch month in franchise history
I never though that would be indicative of a mainline game thought
Perfect example of how giving your game can be the best thing you can do.
hanspampel
Banned
nah. the perfect example for that would be the F2P mobile games, that generate billions
Unrelated but what do you think of a certain website with z(zzzzlol) in it these days?
thunder_snail
Member
FFXV season pass is the top add-on for December. Unexpected for a single player game. Granted, I'm one of the people who bought the season pass but that really is surprising to me!
nah. the perfect example for that would be the F2P mobile games, that generate billions
Rocket League wouldn't. Those games are created to be free.
BassForever
Member
Look at the total votes vs votes for 15, it was like 2-3 votes away from being 6th and only got 2% of the vote. In theory you could have easily gotten a small group of trolls to make anything get into the top 5.
hanspampel
Banned
sure.
meant the "giving away your gave for free works out" stuff
it works. that is why those games do it
The fat, red haired 12yo boy learned to diversify.
MisterR
Member
Gears didn't even make the Xbox top 10? It was $30 almost all December. Wow. I wonder what it's sold.
Obliterator
Member
Indeed. People really shouldn't be basing games performances off of what happens in Japan. It's becoming a less and less important market and isn't really representative of the global state of gaming at all
Muscle Wizard
Banned
For people saying that the next installment will be completely different from XV, I think they might not be correct. I think the more actionized combat of XV will be here to stay as it has larger market appeal than turn-based games. While previous FF games have changed it combat systems, it always was a turn-based rpg.
Mind you, I bet the combat will still be different than XV, but I don't think we'll see a multi-million dollar, multi-platform mainline installment of Final Fantasy being turn-based, which is more relegated to mobile, handhelds, and smaller budget games. Even the FFVII remake is adopting more actionized combat and I feel like it will go further now that they know XV has been widely accepted.
Personally, I like the action-like combat, but I hope they do different things with it, like switching part members, introduce character-based magic outside of flasks, and even maybe a return to the job system.
Mind you, I bet the combat will still be different than XV, but I don't think we'll see a multi-million dollar, multi-platform mainline installment of Final Fantasy being turn-based, which is more relegated to mobile, handhelds, and smaller budget games. Even the FFVII remake is adopting more actionized combat and I feel like it will go further now that they know XV has been widely accepted.
Personally, I like the action-like combat, but I hope they do different things with it, like switching part members, introduce character-based magic outside of flasks, and even maybe a return to the job system.
YankeeDonB
Member
Whatever my qualms with XV, on balance I still really liked it. It doesn't represent the direction I want the series to go, but still happy about this news because:
1. Increases chances of more big budget console FF titles post VII Remake, and
2. Tabata and team worked so damn hard (and, I think, smart) to turn the game around. I'm glad they score a victory!
1. Increases chances of more big budget console FF titles post VII Remake, and
2. Tabata and team worked so damn hard (and, I think, smart) to turn the game around. I'm glad they score a victory!
ArkhamFantasy
Member
Let him get a game of Civ6 first.
FFXV is in my top 10 favorite games of 2016 and it's also my most disappointing game of 2016. I can see why people love it and why some hate it. It's a very confusing game.
Anyway with the success of XV, I honestly wouldn't mind if XVI was a game similar to XV with the addition of putting someone on the game who is actually good at story telling. The content of XV's story isn't bad by any means but man oh man does the game do a piss poor job of trying to contextualize anything or making anything happening in the story feel meaningful. I still feel that XV is held back from absolute greatness because of devs behind the game didn't put in the work to actually set up the story in a meaningful way.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Hold that L Japan.
bigboss370
Member
well deserved.
great game, great world. hope it continues to succeed.
great game, great world. hope it continues to succeed.
Square2015
Member
If it's comparing FFXIII retail vs. XV retail when it said up 19%, yeah.
Why don't more big budget Japanese games ever hire those writers?
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
Never thought Id see the day Forza outpaces Gears.
One game in a genre with no competition vs a game in a genre with a bunch of competition.
Hasn't it been in the top 10 since like it came out? I don't see itt changing anytime soon until red dead comes probably.
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
America will save Japan.
Uncharted 4 PS4 bundle did 1.2 million. As of December 21, Uncharted 4 was announced to be at 8.7 million sold.
So, 8.7 - 1.2 = 7.5 million UC4 LTD stand alone without bundles.
But then we also know there has been UC4 bundles in other countries (but they were not the only one like in US), so lets eat more 500k from that (which I think it is kind of high but this way we get at least a minimum basis). So, 7 million stand alone for UC4 in 2016. UC4 didnt chart in the top 10 best sellers of 2016 and FFXV did at #10. Which means Final Fantasy XV has already sold AT LEAST 7 MILLION UNITS!
Is my math right?
Either way, FF is alive bitches.
So, 8.7 - 1.2 = 7.5 million UC4 LTD stand alone without bundles.
But then we also know there has been UC4 bundles in other countries (but they were not the only one like in US), so lets eat more 500k from that (which I think it is kind of high but this way we get at least a minimum basis). So, 7 million stand alone for UC4 in 2016. UC4 didnt chart in the top 10 best sellers of 2016 and FFXV did at #10. Which means Final Fantasy XV has already sold AT LEAST 7 MILLION UNITS!
Is my math right?
Either way, FF is alive bitches.
hanspampel
Banned
correct
no every single month, but every full year since 2013
4 years in a row
minecraft lost this year, because the rankings are now revenue based and do include digital sales. microsoft does not share digital sales with NPD
To be fair, likely hasn't. Gears opened way bigger than FH3 in the US. So while it was higher in December we have no idea what it did in November
The uncharted bundle has been on sale since September. Those are just December numbers
Pharaoh 117
Member
So happy to see this game succeed. Well deserved.
Had so much fun in my 80+ hours with the game. Congrats Tabata and team.
Had so much fun in my 80+ hours with the game. Congrats Tabata and team.
I don't think they were that smart. The effort put into Kingsglaive should have instead went into strengthening the game's story and events. Promotional material like the Insomnia trailer at Jump Festa, the Dawn trailer and the Omen trailer, all of which weren't in the game were just wasted resources that again, could have been used to strengthen the game's story and events while avoiding misleading consumers who think they're getting one thing but end up with something entirely different.
But yeah, I'm glad it seems to be selling OK. I want them to move on and do better with XVI on a big budget.
I could understand the story complaints for sure. I love the idea of the story in this game, but yeah it's not told well.
It's still insane to me that some gaffers could consider it one of the top 5 worst things of 2016. But at least like was stated it was a very small percentage. It's quickly becoming my GOTY. And the coolest part is that I've never gotten into a FF like this before.
Nightengale
Member
While I don't disagree in general, the resources for stuff like Kingsglaive, Omen, etc trailers are separate from the core game development team, it's not a 1:1 that the game would benefit. What the above would do is just add more money to the development team, and we cannot say for sure money is a problem for FFXV's development.
Time is the problem.
I love XV, it's my 2nd favorite game of the year
But they really need to drop the Open world in the next game and make something more linear (like the old ones, not linear like XIII) and story driven
It's hard, or probably impossible, to make a game with forests, snow areas, volcanos, deserts and a bunch of cities like FF IV to IX if they try to make all of this in a open world.
Vigilant Walrus
Member
A lot of people are ready to play this on PC- Particularly if they can add some of these missing story pieces to flesh out the storys inconsistency.
What they should do- Why not insert parts of the movie/anime directly into the game? Seriously.
What they should do- Why not insert parts of the movie/anime directly into the game? Seriously.
Die Squirrel Die
Member
What are you on about?
They couldn't make cities in a perfectly linear world
Nightengale
Member
Because they're not experienced traditional video game writers?
A good video game writer knows how to write and manage that writing within the confines of game development realities. A good novel writer or animation/series script writer may not necessarily have those?