GinoFelino
Member
No! No jack on the Pro controller or Joycon Grip. I don't know where that info came from.
If it's docked, the ONLY way you'll be able to chat + hear game audio is when Nintendo implements Bluetooth headset support.
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SplatoonJP twitter - details about voice chat and matchmaking with friends on Switch
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No! No jack on the Pro controller or Joycon Grip. I don't know where that info came from.
If it's docked, the ONLY way you'll be able to chat + hear game audio is when Nintendo implements Bluetooth headset support.
Dark Cloud
Member
It would be "fuck you Nintendo you should've told us so we didn't shit on you!" Idk what to expect from Nintendo though. It's probably best to assume the worst so you can't go further down, but you can always go up lol.
I agree. I'm never plugging a headset into my Switch while it's docked. I don't sit close to a tv.
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
Seriously? Fucking hell now I'm even more confused.
My housemate wants to go halves on a switch and im desperately looking for a reason to say anything other than "absolutely not".
So in docked mode I'd have to plug my Sennheiser HD55s
shoutout to Gino for the recommendation, amazing headphones!!
This can't be right
If the number of users that use voice chat on the Switch is low, sacrificing performance for it would be a bad idea. I'm going to assume Nintendo are still oblivious to current gaming online trends or that they feel their user base will not use it enough (kids, casual gamers) to take the hit.
I'm with the camp that want it on the console and part of the UX, it's a huge disconnect and not great for me because I like to play my games and leave the phone in another room.
I'm going to assume it was to get the most out of the machine technically, with the assumption it is for kid safety, as there's no proof that parental controls are implemented well enough by parents.
Okami Haundo
Member
Agreed... I'm not sure why we have more details about an app that won't launch until summer than we do about what the console can do by itself on day one. They're kind of shooting themselves in the foot by talking about that so soon.
These people should be annoyed by Nintendo though.
I really don't see how somebody would think that Reggie doesn't know what to communicate.
My bet is that Nintendo goes with the approach "This mandatory app will enhance so much your experience especially if we avoid telling you straight that it's mandatory"
Skittzo0413
Member
Ideally they will in February. They need to discuss VC (if it exists) too.
BRocknRolla
Member
That's what I though, hence the question. A lot of tough design concession to be made with the split handheld-console form factor.
UnemployedVillain
Member
They probably will. The vast majority of people aren't like GAF and going based on vague Japanese translations and interview snippets, and probably accept it's something that will be elaborated on later
Dark Cloud
Member
Why do people keep asking "where will I hear the game sound when the Switch is docked"?
Wouldn't you hear it through the tv and your friends through your phone? Isn't that how it's done. I'm not sure unless I'm completely clueless lol.
Or do people want to hear friends and the game audio through one speaker be it the tv, their phone or a Bluetooth headset through the Switch?
Wouldn't you hear it through the tv and your friends through your phone? Isn't that how it's done. I'm not sure unless I'm completely clueless lol.
Or do people want to hear friends and the game audio through one speaker be it the tv, their phone or a Bluetooth headset through the Switch?
Why wouldn't VC exist?
GinoFelino
Member
Ah now I know where I remember you from
Glad you like 'em too! Really enjoying my own pair as well. And yeah, the voice chat/game audio thing is really confusing. I hope Nintendo presents a satisfying explanation/solution soon.
Yeah, normally your headphones have a single user-adjustable mix of game audio and chat audio.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Narrated by Miyamoto without Trinen.
Milly Osworth
Member
I am confused.
bananafactory
Banned
So...Here's a question
If the Switch uses phones for voice chat, and the Switch has no headphone jack, how do you hear the game audio when you are using your headset?
If the Switch uses phones for voice chat, and the Switch has no headphone jack, how do you hear the game audio when you are using your headset?
Skittzo0413
Member
Yeah, I'm not sure if we have any info on what Bluetooth 4.1 is actually used for. Your theory begs the question though- why is it taking so long to implement basic OS features? Doesn't Nintendo now have DeNA to help with this process?
It's also not confirmed to be mandatory. If it is I will completely agree.
Because we haven't heard a peep about it. I doubt it won't exist, but it's a bit disappointing that we've yet to hear anything whatsoever official about it.
NumberThree
Member
No, I'm pretty sure in docked mode you'd need to plug those headphones into your TV or amp, since the audio will be routed to the HDMI.
Seriously, folks shouldn't be doing fan theories on something that is out in a month. There is more speculation and uncertainty then when the thing was a rumor
Okami Haundo
Member
The key similarity is that neither Microsoft nor Nintendo want to deviate from planned PR statements, that's quite different from not having your message straight. So far they've only talked about the app, which is leading people to assume information they haven't talked about for the console OS. They really should have just waited for all this app talk.
But... to play devil's advocate on my own topic. Starting with the console OS would then probably lead to questions about things the app covers.
It has audio jack as far as I kniw
prag16
Banned
Yep. The rationale probably involves protecting the kiddies, but this is an unnecessary inconvenience to everyone else.
mocolostrocolos
Member
This is a fucking mess.
GinoFelino
Member
If Nintendo implements Bluetooth support for game + chat audio combined, at least we'll have solutions like this one that make all your headphones Bluetooth-enabled.
I really don't know, but i also don't know why it took a year to speed up the Wii U OS loading times, or why it took so long for Sony and Nintendo to implement something that was already used in the OS of their previous machines (folders), or why you still can't change your user id on PSN.
MarkMclovin
Member
They likely will be. They haven't talked about the OS and UI in general yet. They did before the Wii U launched so it's likely coming. This Splatoon info isn't actually any different from what we've heard before but we ultimately need to see what Nintendo has planned in action.
Worse cast scenario is this.
You play online with no voice chat. Which is what you experienced on the Wii U. What you likely experience on the PS4, XBO, and PC when you don't bother to hock up a headset or go into the options and turn off voice chat. Let's be very honest here. A LOT, LOT of people do just that. The vast majority of people don't bother with voice chat even when there is an option. If you use discord or something similar you'll continue to use that and go about your day.
The app is apart of the overall package and will do a lot more then just voice chat. You can likely just ignore the voice chat feature like so many do on other systems. You aren't paying for the app. You're paying for the access to online play.
Best case scenario.
The App is actually easy to use and somehow makes things better without to much trouble. Maybe some of it's features are integrated into the system OS itself. People still put people on mute and the vast majority still don't bother with the voice chat feature.
The voice chat isn't the biggest issue here and never was. What the online service is like in terms of server stability, speed, discounts, downloadable games, price, etc are all far more important and bigger unknowns. That people zero in on this, feel so angry, when it's such a small aspect and an aspect people generally ignore has been really confusing.
PadWarrior
Member
Love you Nintendo but you done messed up here.
My low-end phone can handle group voice-chat running in the background while using other apps. This is not an either/or question, unless the Switch is horribly engineered compared to modern computing (which I 100% doubt is the issue).
BRocknRolla
Member
Ha, what game is that guy playing?
I suspect most of the people who did voice chat before will just keep using Discord or Skype regardless lol
Skittzo0413
Member
Yeah, good points. OS development must be a very low priority job for platform holders.
There is a jack on the Switch unit itself, but not on any of the controllers.
BRocknRolla
Member
Come on now. Going to need a source for #1 if you're going to say that.
WhiteWaterM00se
Member
So I'm getting the impression there is no voice chat at launch and possibly no online play at launch. Is bomberman local only multiplayer until online launches?
MadraptorMan
Member
Yeah. Let's just calm the f**k down now everybody. The sky isn't falling.
GinoFelino
Member
Receipts please.
If you're going to be a wiseass, back it up
Talking about #1 obviously, not even going to address the second one -_-
I see scenarios in which the app would be a cool neat thing, but having it as the only option is the real bad decision here. I don't understand how Nintendo could have failed to see this would piss off plenty of people and it worries me that it's a reflection of how disconnected the jpn headquarters are from the rest of the world's (because I can't outright believe someone at NoA or NoE would have agreed with this being a fine idea).
GinoFelino
Member
Looks like (/I'm 100% sure it's) Battlefront!
I'm just waiting for them to comunicate this feature clearly, but they have failed to do so.
I also want some Nintendo cool shiny new stuff, but this kind of cloudy information on a feature that's a standard everywhere, doesn't boost my confidence as potential buyer.
That's about it.
Dagobert Duck
Member
This seems like an awesome solution if you dont got a bluetooth headset (or a headset with a 10metres cable) if you want to play at home and use voice chat, cause than you can wirelessly connect and use your phone for voice and messages and matchmaking (docked mode) Undocked you could still use a headset directly for the switch (hopefully)..
And when you are on the road just use the phone for appointments
And when you are on the road just use the phone for appointments
1- Show me the receipt, so far only the Switch tablet itself have a jack.
I saw the Pro Controller from every angles and never saw a jack.
Party chat MUST be integrated in the Switch, locking it to a phone app is absolutely unacceptable in this era. Hopefully they clear that up soon enough.
The same way it has worked on any system since voice chat became a thing?
There's a lot of weird stuff with Nintendo's implementation here, but they didn't change the fundamentals as far as straight voice chat is concerned. The only real issue right now is for stereo headset support in docked mode, which I don't know how they're planning to address if we're already looking at a two-device implementation.
MarkMclovin
Member
Yeah my bad I meant the main console controller.
When docked, I'm assuming the chat is via the phone.
The problem I have with all of that isn't the app, it's that you have to pay to use it. If all of this was free it would be a great solution imo, but it isn't. I don't even know if my phone will be supported.