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NES/Famicom Appreciation Thread
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sixteen-bit
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Double Dragon has such an amazing soundtrack
Whoops! Time warp! We skipped January's post. We (got) played (by) Battletoads though.
Now it's on to the uber famous Double Dragon by Technos!
Get ready to punch and get punched to save your lady!
Now it's on to the uber famous Double Dragon by Technos!
Get ready to punch and get punched to save your lady!
Wiki wiki ya ya, ya ya:
The original Double Dragon by Technōs was first released as a coin-operated
arcade game in 1987. A Nintendo Entertainment System version also produced by
Technōs was released the following year, followed by a Game Boy version in 1990.
Various licensed versions of the games were also produced by other developers for
various gaming platforms such as the Master System, Atari 2600, Atari 7800, Genesis,
and the Lynx. Versions of Double Dragon for home computers were also released as
well.
arcade game in 1987. A Nintendo Entertainment System version also produced by
Technōs was released the following year, followed by a Game Boy version in 1990.
Various licensed versions of the games were also produced by other developers for
various gaming platforms such as the Master System, Atari 2600, Atari 7800, Genesis,
and the Lynx. Versions of Double Dragon for home computers were also released as
well.
Here's how the voting shook out for anyone interested.
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Thanks guys!
by Wanyodos. Guidelines below by RavenholmDX. Selection Process by OnPoint.
Thanks guys!
RadarScope1
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Ah, I forgot to vote. Would have voted Jackal but it wouldn't have mattered. I never finished Crystalis!
D.Lo
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I just finished Double Dragon on my NES mini!
It's... a cheap ass game. But you can learn the quirks and cheese your way through (save states don't hurt...). Interesting comparing it to Double Dragon IV, which is basically a turd, I think even DD1 is better than it, less cheap, and more consistent.
FYI, Double Dragon actually has a post-apocalyptic setting, it's supposed to be a Fist of the North Star/Mad Max setting, not the apparently normal 1980s setting of the western version. Which makes a hell of a lot more sense of the mutants like Abobo, who is basically Mr Heart Hokuto no Ken:
Of course this influence is explicit in the original Famicom art
It's... a cheap ass game. But you can learn the quirks and cheese your way through (save states don't hurt...). Interesting comparing it to Double Dragon IV, which is basically a turd, I think even DD1 is better than it, less cheap, and more consistent.
FYI, Double Dragon actually has a post-apocalyptic setting, it's supposed to be a Fist of the North Star/Mad Max setting, not the apparently normal 1980s setting of the western version. Which makes a hell of a lot more sense of the mutants like Abobo, who is basically Mr Heart Hokuto no Ken:
Of course this influence is explicit in the original Famicom art
Flizzzipper
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^^ Congrats. I started in on it tonight. Made it to the 3rd level on my first try. And my 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th. I need to work on the side scrolling part. I discovered the backslap hit, I should have no problem on the open stages.
Flizzzipper
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That's what I'm trying to figure out, The order seems random each time and I can't discern a pattern.
I practiced some with a save state but yeah it always seems to be different patterns when I make it that far.
Seems like I'm always fated to never get past Mission 3. I've owned Double Dragon since I was a kid and never made it past the forest without some sort of cheat to get through. I feel like that's the level where the game starts to get real, as it were. I'm going to set beating Mission 3 with no cheats as a soft goal this month.
Double Dragon's still one of those games that really had a profound impact on me as a gamer growing up, I'll never forget the first time I played the console port, sure it wasn't the arcade, but it seemed close enough to me. IMO, DD2 outshines it on the NES, but the original game still has a lot of charm to it despite no co-op mode.
Double Dragon's still one of those games that really had a profound impact on me as a gamer growing up, I'll never forget the first time I played the console port, sure it wasn't the arcade, but it seemed close enough to me. IMO, DD2 outshines it on the NES, but the original game still has a lot of charm to it despite no co-op mode.
What are you having trouble with in Mission 3? Always yank those guys with the purple hair by their hair and throw them. Drop kick Abobo when you're close to him.
Flizzzipper
Member
It is complete. I almost blew it dying twice on stupid platform parts but managed to beat the last part on my last life. The game isn't overly hard, at least I didn't feel like it was cheap. When I died I usually screwed up.
My brother in law left his stuff in my house some years ago, including a NES with some games. So recently I put it to work. All his games but one works, but it take a while because there is a special position for them to work.
The thing is: my friend borrowed me about 25 games, and none of them works, including the same games that works previously (like SMB3). I googled it and found a "purple screen of death", which match almost my experience (system works, but only some games, no blinking light).
I opened my NES, checked the 72 pin adaptor for bend pins and dirt, but it didn't work. Any other suggestions?
The thing is: my friend borrowed me about 25 games, and none of them works, including the same games that works previously (like SMB3). I googled it and found a "purple screen of death", which match almost my experience (system works, but only some games, no blinking light).
I opened my NES, checked the 72 pin adaptor for bend pins and dirt, but it didn't work. Any other suggestions?
Did you actually try cleaning the connector or just check to see if it looked dirty?
I cleaned the connector (both ends) and the motherboard connector with an eraser and steel wool (didn't have isopropylic AC at the time). Also I fixed one bent pin. The problem persisted.
Hmm. Have you considered trying the boiling method? http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=63483
I've never tried it, so can't vouch for it personally.
Ha yeah fair enough.
Hopefully someone with a bit more technical knowledge than me can help.
Son.Ralph.Funk
Member
When I was a kid I used to go to arcades/comic shops to play Double Dragon all the time. Was so excited when I heard it was coming to NES. Imagine my disappointment when I saw screenshots and it looked nothing like the arcade version.
I actually didn't mind Neon, found it fine.
RadarScope1
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sixteen-bit
Member
soundtrack is gdlk
davidwhangchoi
Member
dd4 is not that great....
I think Neon is great. It fixes a lot of the problems I have with the series. It plays smoothly, combat is fun, it's not really all that cheap or unfair. Of course it continues the one series tradition I did like, and that's that it has good music.
davidwhangchoi
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Heart of Black
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I beat Double Dragon on my micro years ago, for the first time. I think the stage where the bricks pop out usually ended my run.
Yeah, those.
I own it on NES, but the first time I owned a game called Double Dragon was the Tiger Handheld, which I adored.
This game is great because the RPG build up system encourages playing dangerously (punches get more EXP than kicks), although it is also really hidden.
Also, being able to beat the Chin on the tall building by throwing him off the side is one of my all time highlights.
This year I bought this shirt, which is amazing.
I am currently working on a break down of what makes Double Dragon so great from a game design perspective, because the game keeps being overlooked, when it really is a gem.
Also everyone who says "I just used X move over and over to win!"... why? That isn't skillful play. I like to mix up my fighting tactics because at the end of the day that is what is fun about the game. Punch a few times, kick, grapple, knees, throw. Kick another, get on top of them, ground and pound them to submission. Etc.
These games do not necessarily encourage interesting play, but they have the capacity for it, so why not go with it? I feel like that's the biggest issue with DD 4, is people don't "have fun" with the fighting system, and instead yell about being able to cheese the fuck out of it.
Want an interesting experience? In NES Double Dragon, if you never stop going up and down, the enemy will never attack you (and that's how a lot of games work) It's all based on calculating the player's X and Y, with enough time given to let the player attack before enemies attack.
Yeah, those.
I own it on NES, but the first time I owned a game called Double Dragon was the Tiger Handheld, which I adored.
This game is great because the RPG build up system encourages playing dangerously (punches get more EXP than kicks), although it is also really hidden.
Also, being able to beat the Chin on the tall building by throwing him off the side is one of my all time highlights.
This year I bought this shirt, which is amazing.
I am currently working on a break down of what makes Double Dragon so great from a game design perspective, because the game keeps being overlooked, when it really is a gem.
Also everyone who says "I just used X move over and over to win!"... why? That isn't skillful play. I like to mix up my fighting tactics because at the end of the day that is what is fun about the game. Punch a few times, kick, grapple, knees, throw. Kick another, get on top of them, ground and pound them to submission. Etc.
These games do not necessarily encourage interesting play, but they have the capacity for it, so why not go with it? I feel like that's the biggest issue with DD 4, is people don't "have fun" with the fighting system, and instead yell about being able to cheese the fuck out of it.
Want an interesting experience? In NES Double Dragon, if you never stop going up and down, the enemy will never attack you (and that's how a lot of games work) It's all based on calculating the player's X and Y, with enough time given to let the player attack before enemies attack.
Ha, I think I had the Tiger handheld game when I was a kid as well.
I'd love to play a bunch of DD this month but I'll doubt I'll have time.
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Voted, even though I still haven't been able to play Battletoads or Double Dragon... My basement floor gets replace next week, so I can finally start setting up my retro cave again!
Voted Metal Gear because I've never actually beat the NES version despite owning it! Also I feel asleep and the truck have started to move.
D.Lo
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Well I beat Double Dragon on day 1 of the month, and haven't done much interesting NES/Fami wise for a few weeks. I'm sure others have a similar story. Just how threads go really.
I did get the Famicom Disk thing for the Famicom mini, might post that later
I feel bad because quite a bit of the last few games have not been my favorites, plus I've been pretty busy. I feel like since I'm organizing the monthly club I should be doing a better job participating, but it's not fun if I'm always trashing the games we're playing haha
That said, be sure to vote everyone! I'll try and close it out on Friday so we all have time to ensure we can pick up the winner.
That said, be sure to vote everyone! I'll try and close it out on Friday so we all have time to ensure we can pick up the winner.
I still can't beat Double Dragon. It expects perfection. The Machine Guy always ends me because I'm drained from fighting everyone else. The two Abobos at the end take most of my health. You can't take your time, you have to rush it because there's a time limit.
I'm finding it to be 1000000x harder than Battletoads.
I'm finding it to be 1000000x harder than Battletoads.
Spam dat elbow dude!!!
Ive had some stuff coming up in my personal life, so havent really played games for a while unfortunately. Definitely going to try to beat Double Dragon though, just need to clear my head first. I love all the retro-threads btw, and really want to see them continue thriving. Going to do my bit for that soon!
Heart of Black
Member
But.. why? Is that fun to you?
That worked for Abobo. Not so much with the guy with the machine gun. How do you deal with him?
D.Lo
Member
Huh? You can only beat the game by cheesing cheap moves. There's no elegant way to beat Double Dragon. And yes it's fun to beat a bitch of a game by the rules it sets out.
Shadow Hog
Member
No wonder they crossed over.
RadarScope1
Member
I've been quite busy at work and with family since the holidays. It really never let up for me. I've also oscillated somewhat back into modern gaming. I tend to go in waves. I haven't touched anything retro since before Xmas. I even eased up on my habit of checking eBay a couple times a day. Now it's a couple of times a week. I don't know why my brain works this way, but it does. Eventually I'll be back in a kick where I'm obsessing over retro again.
I do this as well, though I'm currently on the retro end of things and apart from my own project I haven't touched a modern game for several months.
I've been playing NES quite a bit, I just haven't been playing the titles chosen by the club. I just finished up Willow, a game I've always liked but never completed until now. It has some issues for sure. Pretty much every boss fight is easy, I don't think I failed on any boss except the final one where you need a certain amount of MP to win. The game can also be too obtuse in a few spots, I played with a printed out walkthrough from gamefaqs at the ready.
Overall though, I enjoyed it. Graphics are pretty good, music is good (if a bit repetitive at times) and the gameplay is fun. I like how the swords all have both a "swing" (B) and a "stab" (Direction + B) and there's a good amount of gear to find.